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Postby star » Mon Aug 17, 2009 12:15 pm

Hi I need help to gather difficult question for Muslims.They can be posted to one of the Muslims Forum( like I wrote in one of my post to make some movement in brain calls, doesnt matter how they will answer.)or later printed like leaflet with some funny pictures:)or it can be posted on you Tube.Qestion can be funny, difficult, historical, theological any...For me is very important that they will be based on islamic sources.I am absolutely sure that on some of them THERE IS NO GOOD ANSWER:).I THINK that no Muslim can be angry. :heh: We just asking:)...I know that we can find lots in Internet but maybe you have some qestion which never appear.THERE IS NO BAD QESTION THEY ARE JUST BAD ANSWERS:):) :wink: mY FIRST
1.wHY Mohamed advise to drink camel's urine? :)
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby Khadijah » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:18 pm

Good question.

2. Why did he marry little girl instead of became a foster daddy to her?
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby FiercelyAmerican » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:17 pm

3. How can islam esteem Jesus as allah's prophet when Jesus committed blasphemy against allah, by claiming to be god or god's son, for which Jesus was sentenced to crucifixion?
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby Marie » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:47 pm

star wrote:Hi I need help to gather difficult question for Muslims.They can be posted to one of the Muslims Forum( like I wrote in one of my post to make some movement in brain calls, doesnt matter how they will answer.)or later printed like leaflet with some funny pictures:)or it can be posted on you Tube.Qestion can be funny, difficult, historical, theological any...For me is very important that they will be based on islamic sources.I am absolutely sure that on some of them THERE IS NO GOOD ANSWER:).I THINK that no Muslim can be angry. :heh: We just asking:)...I know that we can find lots in Internet but maybe you have some qestion which never appear.THERE IS NO BAD QESTION THEY ARE JUST BAD ANSWERS:):) :wink: mY FIRST
1.wHY Mohamed advise to drink camel's urine? :)


Here are something to pose to Muslims:

Pharaoh:

According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire meaning the practice did not exist at the time of Moses.

The Golden Calf:

According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Also Samaritans are descendents of the Jews who remained in Samaria after the Assyrian conquest in 721 BCE.

Judaism:

According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism and is considered blasphemous by many Jews.

The Trinity:

According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. This shows the influence of heretical 'Christian' sects in central Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In contrast, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The teaching of the Quran on the Trinity has undoubtedly led to confusion among many Muslims on what the Bible (and thus Christianity) teaches about the Triune God.

Muslim commentator al-Zamakhshari states:

The (word) three is the predicate to an understood subject. If one accepts the Christian view that God exists in one nature (jauhar) with three divine persons, namely the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and (if one accept) the opinion that the person of the Father represents (God’s) being (dhat), the person of the Son represents (his) knowledge (’ilm), and the person of the Holy Spirit represents (his) life (hayat), then one must supply the subject as follows: ‘God is three(fold).’ Otherwise, one must supply (the subject) thus: ‘The gods are three.’ ACCORDING TO THE EVIDENCE OF THE QUR’AN, the Christians maintain that God, Christ, and Mary are three gods, and that Christ is the child of God by Mary, AS GOD SAYS (in the Qur’an): ‘O Jesus son of Mary, didst thou say unto men: “Take me and my mother as gods, apart from God”?’ (Sura 5:116), or: ‘The Christians say: “The Messiah is the Son of God”’ (Sura 9:30). Moreover, it is well known that the Christians maintain that in Jesus are (combined) a divine nature derived from the Father and a human nature derived from his mother… At the same time these words [Sura 4:171] exclude (the Christian view) that Jesus had with God the usual relationship between sons and (their) fathers… (Helmut Gätje, The Qur’an and its Exegesis [Oneworld Publications, 1996], pp. 126-127; bold, capital and underline emphasis and words within brackets ours)

Mary:

According to the Quran (Surah 19:28, 3:33-36), Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Imran or Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron. Mary is also said to be the sister of Moses and Aaron. Clearly Muhammad confused Mary with Miriam.
A second interesting point about Mary is the story of the date palm speaking and offering its fruit to her (Surah 19:23). This legend is easily traced to similar legends found in the apocryphal "Protoevangelium of James" the "Pseudo-Matthew" and "the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary" all of which have been dated to the fourth to sixth centuries, and were again believed by the sects found in Arabia. (More indepth information on Quranic sources may be found in Rev. W. St. Clair Tisdall's The Religion of the Crescent).
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby manfred » Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:20 pm

Here is an old one but a good one:

Ask them what bees eat... Then show them

quran 16:68-69
And your Lord inspired the bee: build homes in mountains and trees,
and in (the hives) they build for you.
Then eat from all the fruits, following the design of your Lord, precisely.
From their bellies comes a drink of different colors, wherein
there is healing for the people.
This should be (sufficient) proof for people who reflect.

So here the quran says bees eat fruit and then they make honey "in their bellies" (wrong on both counts) and this is proof for Mohammed being a prophet... by what logic I don't know...

Explain that bees eat honey, which they make from pollen with their mandibles and an enzime they produce. (Only some wasps eat fruit, bees never do.)

So ask how can a book supposedly written by God himself, for all time, contain such basic mistakes?

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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby AYHAN » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:54 am

MORE MORE MORE :D

COME ON PEOPLE (SWEET KIND, CARING PEOPLE) hehehe, please can we have more? This article is really good :lol:
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby expozIslam » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:03 am

“The truth, of course, is that a billion falsehoods told a billion times by a billion people are still false.”
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby AYHAN » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:42 am

Sorry i just found out, @manfred, why have you explain that bees eat honey? In the verse it says fruit. lol..
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby AYHAN » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:47 pm

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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby ygalg » Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:57 pm

Marie wrote:
Judaism:

According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism and is considered blasphemous by many Jews.

the verse apparently addressing from past tense in oppose to translated version. this of course does not excuse that this Koranic verse addresses the entire Jews in comparison to Christian believe and not over few. furthermore the believe "Ezra the son of god" if indeed took place, in my view it would have preceded the "Jesus the son of god". as his tale far ancient than of Jesus. why then "some" Jews did not started approximate to his or near his time? isn't that bizarre it only been indicating in Koran and not in other sources? i.e came to existence with advance of Islam?

one would think the possibility in the claim in the verse 9:30 the problem is that verse 5.18 confirms it is an error. also attribute another one.
And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby AYHAN » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:09 am

Any help on this matter? One muslim is saying allah is talking about bees, the other muslim is saying allah is talking about humans?? Look below :

That second verse is not talking about bees actually eating fruits. It's directed at humans,stating "eat of the fruits" as a metaphor for "eat what you've been blessed with". It has nothing to do with a bee actually eating fruit.

[16:68-69]

And your Lord inspired the bee: build homes in mountains and trees,
and in (the hives) they build for you.


Then eat from all the fruits, following the design of your Lord, precisely.
From their bellies comes a drink of different colors, wherein
there is healing for the people.
This should be (sufficient) proof for people who reflect.

http://www.submission.org/YES/YES-16.html

Please can anyone reply? ASAP!!!

Thanks


Found this :

16:68 And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying: Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch; وَأَوْحَى رَبُّكَ إِلَى النَّحْلِ أَنِ اتَّخِذِي مِنَ الْجِبَالِ بُيُوتًا وَمِنَ الشَّجَرِ وَمِمَّا يَعْرِشُونَ (16:68)

16:69 Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Lord, made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their bellies a drink diverse of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect. ثُمَّ كُلِي مِن كُلِّ الثَّمَرَاتِ فَاسْلُكِي سُبُلَ رَبِّكِ ذُلُلاً يَخْرُجُ مِن بُطُونِهَا شَرَابٌ مُّخْتَلِفٌ أَلْوَانُهُ فِيهِ شِفَاء لِلنَّاسِ إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لآيَةً لِّقَوْمٍ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ (16:69)

16:68 And thy Lord inspired the bee,: God inspiration can be by direct through the DNA in their brain that direct them to do that. Even if it is a learning process God facilitated the presence of this DNA to do its function.

saying: Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch;: God say in Arabic atakhizi which is clearly indicate that he is talking to female bees. If he talk to male bee he would say atakhiz. The modern science proved that the female bee is the one who is producing the honey.

16:69 Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Lord, made smooth (for thee). : He order the bees to eat from all the fruits.

There cometh forth from their bellies a drink: after the bees eat the food it assimilate it in its abdomen which function as a chemistry laboratory to produce honey. The Quran mentioned right were the honey is produced in the abdomen not somewhere else in the body.

diverse of hues,: according to http://www.quranmiracles.com/ The colors of honey vary as stated in the Quran. They change according to the climate, season and weather conditions and the sources where nectar is obtained. The color of honey ranges from dark brown to green, among which the light yellow is preferred. In the honey industry, modern countries with developed techniques use a colorimeter to establish the exact description of honey’s color.

wherein is healing for mankind.: Honey has regenerative properties and used in medical field.

Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect.: the things you need to reflect here is the Quran got it right on: where the bees live, where it eat from, the female bee is the one that produce the honey, it is produced in its belly, the honey has different colors and it has healing properties. This simple sign of God shows how he direct one of his creation to its feeding and from it honey is produced to our feeding and health. That is why the Quranic verses are considered signs of God.

and this link : http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option ... ew&id=2964

Also i have search for honey colours :


Color is usually an indication of flavor concentration. Colors can range from near-white through yellow, yellow-green, gold, amber, dark brown or red to even nearly black. Usually a lighter color will indicate a milder flavor, while darker honey is customarily more robust and contains more minerals. Texture can also vary from thin to heavy.
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby Marie » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:18 am

ygalg wrote:
Marie wrote:
Judaism:

According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism and is considered blasphemous by many Jews.

the verse apparently addressing from past tense in oppose to translated version. this of course does not excuse that this Koranic verse addresses the entire Jews in comparison to Christian believe and not over few. furthermore the believe "Ezra the son of god" if indeed took place, in my view it would have preceded the "Jesus the son of god". as his tale far ancient than of Jesus. why then "some" Jews did not started approximate to his or near his time? isn't that bizarre it only been indicating in Koran and not in other sources? i.e came to existence with advance of Islam?

one would think the possibility in the claim in the verse 9:30 the problem is that verse 5.18 confirms it is an error. also attribute another one.
And the Jews and the Christians say: We are the sons of Allah and His beloved ones. Say: Why does He then chastise you for your faults? Nay, you are mortals from among those whom He has created, He forgives whom He pleases and chastises whom He pleases; and Allah's is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth and what is between them, and to Him is the eventual coming.


Muhammed got both Judaism and Christianity wrong.

Here’s what the Concise Dictionary of Islam says:

In some cases the “material” which forms the substance of Quranic narrative, details of the creeds of Christianity and Judaism for example, does not correspond to those religion’s own understanding of their beliefs. This could be said, for example, of the notion of the Trinity found in the Quran, the story of Satan’s refusal to bow down to Adam, the Docetist view of the crucifixion, all of which can be traced to the dogmas of Gnostic sects, which are heretical in relationship to orthodox Christianity and Judaism. The Trinity “seen” in the Quran is not the Trinity of the Apostles Creed, or of the Nicene Creed. (Morey, The Islamic Invasion: Confronting the World’s Fastest Growing Religion [Harvest House Publishers, Eugene, Oregon 1992], pp. 152-153)

I don't know about Satan refusing to bow down to Adam part, but the Docetists believe that Jesus did not die on the cross, it only looked like he died, the trinity in the Quran is really tritheism where three gods ( God the father, Mary the mother, and Jesus the son ) are seen as three separate entities in one body ( in orthodox Christianity the trinity means tri-unity which is three distinct and inseperable persons united in one person ). Also Mary was worshipped as a goddess.
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Re: difficult Question to Muslims

Postby emma67 » Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:48 am

Without thinking much, here are a few more. 1 of my favourite is the mistake about including Mary in the Trinity but someone already mentioned it. I suggest you check Father Zakaria Boutros' website at www.fatherzakaria.net. You will find all the necessary information gathered there and dealing strictly with the Qu'ran. And Wikiislam is definitely worth your time to this end too. The few examples below are the ones I remember by heart from Father Zakario Boutros' website and this is exactly what we need. Questions to ask on all levels, clearly stated as everyone has been doing here, a practical guide to use in day to day life.

Did Pharoh die in the sea (Surah 40) or was he rescued (Surah Yunus 90-92)?

Why is the account of the birth of Christ in the Qu'ran completely different from that of the Bible?

Why does the Islamic Encyclopedia mention that there were several Qu'rans with differences on pages 8177 and 8179?

There are so many more but there may be too easy, such How long is Resurrection Day? Is it 1000 years (Surah 5) or 50000 years (Surah 4)? Did the creation take 6 days or 8 days?
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