Btw If pagans wanted to kill Muhhamad they could have easily done that. They had all the time in the world and also Muhhamad wasnt powerful when he was in mecca so the excuse that pagans wanted to kill him is ludicrous. Also when Muhhamad left Mecca his family and some muslims still stayed in mecca. How come they werent tortured or killed?
Muhammad wasn't very powerful, but he had the protection of his tribe. (unlike the muslim slaves who were tortured and killed) People who tried to kill him either did it out of anger, as in the case of 'Uqbah strangling him, or Umar who intented to kill Muhammad before he was guided to islam, but stopped when someone knocked some sense in to him, saying: "Umar, I am sure, your soul has deceived you, do you think that Banu ‘Abd Munaf would let you walk on earth if you slain Muhammad [pbuh]?" or they were simply suicidal, such as Abu Jahl saying "I now make a vow to Allah, that I shall wait for him tomorrow with a stone as large as I can carry and when he prostrates himself in prayer, I shall smash his head with it! After that you may either surrender me or defend me."
Further people of different faiths lived quite tolerantly inspite of the differences in their religion. How come they lived peacefully inspite of practicing monotheism and polytheism? IT was only Muhhamad who was targeted because he was the culprit.
Muhammad preached a new religion, and gained a relatively large following. So he was a threat to the pagan religion. And no, it was not only Muhammad who was targeted. What about the more than 80 muslims who were forced to flee from their and homes and even families to Ethiopia? I actually read in Ali Sina's book that he claimed they only went there because Muhammad told them to, apparently for no reason other than him being narcissist. Ali Sina clearly never read Bukhari though, because we find that it wasn't even Muhammad's idea:
Bukhari; Volume 4, Book 56, Number 809:
Narrated Khabbab bin Al-Arat:
We complained to Allah's Apostle (of the persecution inflicted on us by the pagans) while he was sitting in the shade of the Ka'ba, leaning over his Burd (i.e. covering sheet). We said to hi-m, "Would you seek help for us? Would you pray to Allah for us?" He said, "Among the nations before you a (believing) man would be put in a ditch that was dug for him, and a saw would be put over his head and he would be cut into two pieces; yet that (torture) would not make him give up his religion. His body would be combed with iron combs that would remove his flesh from the bones and nerves, yet that would not make him abandon his religion. By Allah, this religion (i.e. Islam) will prevail till a traveler from Sana (in Yemen) to Hadrarmaut will fear none but Allah, or a wolf as regards his sheep, but you (people) are hasty.
The persecution became so severe, that many Muslims in Meccah migrated to Abyssinia to escape it.
You see? It was not just Muhammad, but his followers who were targetted as well. Also:
Ibn Ishaq (p. 267):
When Islam began to spread in Mecca, the Quraysh imprisoned its believers or sought to turn them away from Islam.
And;
The apostle had not been given permission to fight, or allowed to shed blood…He had simply been ordered to call men to God and endure insult and forgive the ignorant. The Quraysh had persecuted his followers, seducing some from their religion, and exiling others from their country. They had to choose whether to give up their religion, be maltreated at home, or to flee the country, some to Abyssinia [Ethiopia], others to Medina. (p. 212)
And
Allah had not then given His apostle permission to fight. He had given permission neither to wage war nor to shed blood, but only to call men to Allah, to endure insults patiently, and to pardon the ignorant. Some of the followers of the apostle had therefore been forced to flee from persecution into the countryside, some to Abyssinia, others to Medina and elsewhere. When the Quraysh rejected the mercy of Allah and spurned His prophet, they tormented or drove away men who proclaimed the One‑ness of Allah, believed in His prophet, and adhered to His religion.
Btw you have a problem when 1-2 meccans tried to strangle him or beat him up but you have no problem with Muhhamad did with them. Killing them is OK If muhhamad does it but its unethical if the pagans just tried to do that. Thats hypocrisy!
I have no problem with Muhammad executing people who deserved to die, such as people who waged war against him or tried to kill him.
In the battle of Badr all the pagans were killed by Muhhamad.
No they were not. only around 70 out of 900 pagans were killed.
The battle of Badr was no way defensive. It was all Muhhamad's fault. see this"Ibn Ishaq 428 wrote:Then the apostle heard that Abu Sufyan was coming from Syria with a large caravan of Qurish, containing their money and merchandise, accompanied by some thirty or forty men… When the Apostle heard about Abu Sufyan coming from Syria, he summoned the Muslims and said, “This is the Quraish caravan containing their property. Go out to attack it, perhaps Allah will give it as a prey.”
This is rubbish. Just because Muhammad initiated the skirmish doesn't mean he wasn't fighting in defense or for justice. The battle of badr was a defensive and just act from the muslims in exactly the same way as the invasion of Normadee was a defensive and just act from the Allies in the second world war.
Also what about the battle of Uhud? The pagans had no intention other than to kill all Muslims. Did Muhammad kill all pagans when he returned to Mecca after a decade of being forced into exile and out of his home? No.
PAgans retaliate and yes 1-2 pagans became extreme but you shift the blame on all the pagans for that. Thats unfair! . Also they didnt murder him even when they could have done that easily !
No. A representative of every pagan tribe tried to kill him.
Further Muhhamad tries to rob their caravans and it leads to war and muhhamad kills the pagans who ridiculed or tried to strangle him. YOu have no problem with Muhhamad when he kills them.
He did not kill them for beliefs, or for preaching, or for upsetting a balance in a town. Yes, people who tried to kill him deserve to be executed, so does the people who waged an unjust war against him.
Volume 5, Book 59, Number 314:
Narrated Abu Talha:
On the day of Badr, the Prophet ordered that the corpses of twenty four leaders of Quraish should be thrown into one of the dirty dry wells of Badr. (It was a habit of the Prophet that whenever he conquered some people, he used to stay at the battle-field for three nights. So, on the third day of the battle of Badr, he ordered that his she-camel be saddled, then he set out, and his companions followed him saying among themselves." "Definitely he (i.e. the Prophet) is proceeding for some great purpose." When he halted at the edge of the well, he addressed the corpses of the Quraish infidels by their names and their fathers' names, "O so-and-so, son of so-and-so and O so-and-so, son of so-and-so! Would it have pleased you if you had obeyed Allah and His Apostle? We have found true what our Lord promised us. Have you too found true what your Lord promised you? "'Umar said, "O Allah's Apostle! You are speaking to bodies that have no souls!" Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hand Muhammad's soul is, you do not hear, what I say better than they do." (Qatada said, "Allah brought them to life (again) to let them hear him, to reprimand them and slight them and take revenge over them and caused them to feel remorseful and regretful.")
Haven't I shown you the hell Muhammad and his followers went through in Meccah? And then you cry because he mocked people who waged an unjust war against him? What did the allies do with Mussolini?
Whether MOhammad was persecuted or not should not even be a question for debate because if he was the messenger of God, then he should have had the power of persuasion to turn enemies into friends which he clearly did not have or use.
