Part I: http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=60738" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Part II. His articles.
The first part circuited Ali's ambivalence, which I've called: The Ayatollah Sina's enigma. Just like Islam walks on two legs, the first being apologetic and seemingly yielding, the second carries the crushing legal side of Islam, so we find that Ali dispatches that kind of twofold attitude. On one hand he maintains that ''only Western values are worthy of being saved'' just to, on the other hand, firing at many Western pillars such as the fundamental rights of individuals our liberal societies are based upon. This raise the question of the effect of Islam not only on Muslims but also on Ex-Muslims. A crucial side of this is, of course, their plain or dysfunctional integration in the Western basic values of individual rights, freedoms and democracy. We're about to see that Ali Sina isn't providing much examples of such integration.
In the first part, we've had quotes of him from his threads and comments, mainly raised before Barack H. Obama got elected. This second part will focus on quotes from his articles, namely:
The Audacity Of Frauds.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obamalies.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Making of a Fuhrer.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
What Will the Future Bring Under Obama?
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/obama/future.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Decline and Fall Of the West (Ali Sina)
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina60423.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I've joined this last one (dealing with morality) to the others, which are rather concerned with the election of Barack Obama, because it shall bring better lightnings on the topic of this thread: Ali Sina's Muslimness, through his positions on morality, reflecting into his political moto: ''liberalism is a mental disease''.
The main purpose of this is centered around the idea of Muslims' integration to our Western Values. It has been said many times that Muslims' integration triggers much problems to their hosting countries, and more and more concerns about if they'll -ever do integrate- at all. Concessions of Neville Chamberlain's type won't work!
With Ali Sina himself, it looks like even many apostates of Islam cannot cope with our freedoms and rather stick to some Islamic mentality than adopt our ways. Ali would rather call for a civil war in America than endorse a democratically elected -black- president, pointing those who voted for him as cultic worshipers. Ironically, we at FFI, are often labeled by Muslims as following the ''Cult of Ali Sina''. This only emphases what the first part introduced: Ali's values are from an Islamic unshakable background.
For Ali Sina THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE between Christians being nude on a beach and wifeswapping. They illustrate Western decadence and immorality. Like all true Muslims, Ali Sina cannot distinguish between the various multihued strands that compose the extraordinarily rich tapestry of Western society. (We can see that in his risible caricaturization of 'The Left' which is no different to Pilgrim's SWLL). He cannot see that Christian nudity has NO explicit sexual connotations at all. In fact it is quite the opposite. (...) Nudity and Christianity do not contradict each other. Nudity and Islam do.
What is even more distrurbing from the pen of a so-called apostate is that Christian nudity for him 'makes Islam more attractive'. The implication clearly being that we in the West should renounce the Hellenic/Christian tradition of nudity 'in order to make Islam less attractive'. This is KOWTOWING TO MUSLIMS. Carry on with this incredible logic and Ali Sina will be recommending that we hammer off the penis of Michaelangelo's David to 'make Islam less attractive'.
Ali would say that we never should appease Muslims, then just to suggest that we have to change our ways so to facilitate their integration, that is by becoming more puritans. It's not only Obama that Ali disdains but, even more troubling, the very liberalism that founded the Western world, through his epithets of these ''utterly irrationals'' people who voted for him ! His visceral hatred for the President-elected seems to be just the tip of the iceberg and find its grounding in the very Islamic hatred for whatever is liberal. It's frightening to see that, not only Muslims immigrants do not integrate, some apostates (like Ali Sina does, one fatwa after another) still carry the Islamic torch aiming to set ablaze the freedoms and liberality we so dearly enjoy...Muslims like Ali Sina are fascinated by science but they fail to understand first that there is NO PROOF in science, only hypotheses that empirical research TENDS to validate or invalidate. Like his co-religionists who use risible scientific arguments and 'experts' like Maurice Bucaille to 'prove the scientific miracles of the koran', Ali Sina runs to the horsetrading Maurice Bucailles of 'human sexuality' to 'prove' a dogma that he doesn't want to see questioned.
In Ali's mind, individualism is wrongly associated with licentiousness or the right to do whatever one wants. He's only forgetting that this right is limited by the wrongs done to any other individual. Still the person, the individual, is the basic of our social fabrics, not the family per se. Except in Islam, see? Epicurus himself taught that the highest form of pleasures were obtained in practicing virtue... So did the Stoics. But to associate virtue with cultural dogmas based on prudery and disgust is like subduing freedom to catechism.
As far as I am concern, morality is what deals with Life and the quality of living for most of the people, animals & vegetal worlds, of which we are interdependent: the quality of the air we breath, the food we eat, the level of education, etc. In my mind, morality brings about harmony and mutual understanding, in the respect of our differences. Thus, to me, intolerances of all sorts are the seed of immorality. That's way too liberal for Ali!
Now, before we proceed to the quotes themselves, we must have a word on Ali's referencing to the self-called ''Dr'' Vaknin to base his unalterable conviction that Barack Obama suffers from pathological narcissism. 'bob' wrote that: ''Ali Sina runs to the horsetrading Maurice Bucailles of 'human sexuality' to 'prove' a dogma that he doesn't want to see questioned''. The same pattern happened, once again, in the case of Sam Vaknin.
Ali Sina relied upon the sole 'authority' of someone dangerously unqualified to make any diagnosis at all! Yet, Ali stated: ''Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism.'' The self-called ''Dr'' Vaknin has no degree at all in psychology so, once again, Ali relies on unreliable sources to build up his then unaltarable -beliefs-. Just like Muslims stick blindy to the much unreliable hadiths to order their entire life, so Ali Sina tends to rely upon such shaky grounds to project his, then, arrogant certainty. Thus the Muslimness of Ali, this thread wants to underline.
On Sam Vaknin, see:
http://heliologue.com/2006/07/03/sam-vaknins-self-love/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sam Vaknin has been deleted from Wikipedia, after numerous warnings:Bobby Bee
The problem with Vaknins self assumed position as an authority of Narcissism is dangerous for quite simple reasons. Though his “from the inside” perspective on the situation may seem to suggest a certain validity, you’ve still got to take into account that it’s a highly distorted perspective. This is why we NEED acreditied mental health proffesionals, who can offer a objectivley derived perspective on someones condition. A lot of complaints have centered around Sam Vaknins habit of trying to suggest that NPD is the foundation to all personality disorders. His subjective “museings” on the/his condition often reflect this position; he doesn’t know what aspects of his condition are of the truly malignant variety, and what aspects are quite healthy. Hence anyone reading his naval gazeing misanthropy may well come away thining “Yes, X is just like that!”, or “Oh my god! I’M GOING TO HELL!!”.
There’s no doubt that subjectivley derived writings by those that suffer from mental health issues can provide an interesting an often helpfull supplement to psycho-analytical ones, but the way Mr. Vaknin monopolises the web with his labourious and verbose “articles” almost drowns out any, actual, profesional sources. This guy is a menace. I realy hope that NPD victims, in there vulnerability, don’t become further damaged by his insidious style.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;: ... amvak_(3rd)
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Quote from the last:
We can now proceed into quoting Ali Sina from his articles, itself divided in two parts...Dr. Sam Vaknin
To whom it may concern,
I have recently been undertaking a significant amount of research and feel this is as good a place to warn anyone. The individual referring to himself as Dr. Sam Vaknin has no educational qualifications of any merit or legitimacy, and was incarcerated for a period in the mid 90s, further casting doubt over his reputation. A confirmed sufferer of Narcissistic Personality Disorder, this individual is an avid self promoter and has disseminated vast amounts of his publications across the internet.
When undertaking research on economics, finance, monetary unions (especially the history thereof), Macedonia, psychology and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, please ensure this individual is not the author of the said work, as factual errors or inaccuracies may be prevalent throughout the work and, despite the plausability of his publications, his reputation casts an unquestionable shadow of doubt over his professional undertakings. I have wasted my time on this individual, and intend only to spare you the same.
Editions in paragraphs only, for the sake of quoting.