The Muslim claims, based on reasonable faith, that the origin of the information is divine, which entails absence of factual errors and inner contradictions of the text.
the long sleep miracle was never observed independently and therefore cannot be falsified to a believing audience
An ancient miracle does not need to have been witnessed independently for a believer to reasonably take it as true. The conviction that the source from which the information comes from is divine, is enough to establish all its contents as facts.
The side questions will not be treated in this thread so as to avoid the attempt at drowning the core issues in irrelevant tangents. However and as already said, they can be addressed one by one and without fail in seperate threads.
All the Quran's affirmations are taken as facts by the believer, not because "the Quran says so" but because of reasonably concluding that it (the Quran) cannot be man made.
"irrelevant tangents"
The location if the barrier is an irrelevant tangent to the discussion about the borrowing claims. Open another thread and it will be discussed without fail.
Eagle wrote:Nobody said the Quran borrowed as much as a letter from some earthly document. Those that did were explained how the borrowing claim might very well be the reverse.
So now that it has been admitted that the nature of the Quran and the existence of the barrier have no bearing on the so called plagiarism issue (whether the Quran is man made or whether no barrier exists it still does not establish the stories were borrowed from the romances), all that is left to do is open the thread where those tangents will be addressed.
Eagle wrote:All so called older sources were shown to be edited works post dating the Quran and written in an Islamic environment.
The texts post dating the Quran are the romances.
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