manfred wrote:These various traditions were not lost on Mohammed. As to Jesus, the "ascension" is re-told not as a return home, but as Allah's rescue of a failed prophet.
manfred wrote:Mohammed's own journey had to be more spectacular than any before.
According to Islam, Jesus therefore succeeded 100% in conveying the message he was meant to convey. Whether that message survived now or not is irrelevant.
The fulfillement of the Torah refers to the revival of its spirit, which the Jews had neglected by concentrating on the ritualistic aspect and issuing ever new conjectured complications to those rituals, attributing their origins to the revealed Oral Torah/Talmud.
Ezekiel's journey was a physical one, as understood by the words in the text as well as the rabbinic comentaries
In visions of God he took me to the land of Israel and set me on a very high mountain, on whose south side were some buildings that looked like a city
As to the crucifixion, it could not have happenned, at least not as depicted in the NT.
“Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.”
“Now around this time lived Jesus, a wise man. For he was a worker of amazing deeds and was a teacher of people who gladly accept the truth. He won over both many Jews and many Greeks. Pilate, when he heard him accused by the leading men among us, condemned him to the cross, (but) those who had first loved him did not cease (doing so). To this day the tribe of Christians named after him has not disappeared”
Ezekiel's journey was a physical one, as understood by the words in the text as well as the rabbinic comentaries
In the courtyard was the idol that caused God to be jealous." (Ezekiel 8:3)
pr126 wrote:In the courtyard was the idol that caused God to be jealous." (Ezekiel 8:3)
How can a god have human emotions?
....put their forehead to the ground as the utmost sign of humility to God.
The words Muslims recite in each position are highly meaningful and appropriate, but that is another issue neither you nor any one down in this place will have the spiritual receptivity to comprehend.
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