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Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Does God exist? Is Allah God? Creation vs. evolution.
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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby Garudaman » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:22 am

sum wrote:That does not make suffering "noble".

why not? of course struggle is more noble than not struggle.

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... lish/noble
moral in an honest, brave, and kind way

brave need of struggle.
any Atheist will not be able to explain, how the air coincidentally can be used by bird to evolve fly & fly more easily (QS. 16:79)!

even if the universe has intelligence, & thus which designing evolution, what the purpose of evolution if not to improve the presentation to God?
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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby sum » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:42 am

Hello Garudaman

In your more quiet and reflective moments, do you ever consider the you are trying to defend the indefensible? Do you ever wonder if you have been indoctrinated and your mind programmed? Do you have any doubts at all about any aspect of Islam?

Does fear of punishment for transgressing against Islamic teaching ever come into your mind? Do you believe that Allah knows what you are thinking and what is in your heart?

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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby Garudaman » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:03 am

yeah, indefensible besed on no argument/reasoning. :roll:
any Atheist will not be able to explain, how the air coincidentally can be used by bird to evolve fly & fly more easily (QS. 16:79)!

even if the universe has intelligence, & thus which designing evolution, what the purpose of evolution if not to improve the presentation to God?
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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby sum » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:18 am

Hello Garudaman

Please expand on your reply to my questions as it does not address what I am asking.

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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby Garudaman » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:37 am

your question is doesn't exist, since its baseless.
any Atheist will not be able to explain, how the air coincidentally can be used by bird to evolve fly & fly more easily (QS. 16:79)!

even if the universe has intelligence, & thus which designing evolution, what the purpose of evolution if not to improve the presentation to God?
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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby sum » Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:31 pm

Hello Garudaman

I think that you are losing your faculties. I have asked you questions but you claim that there are none! Is it because you are uncomfortable answering them?

Be brave and support your views by answering that which I have asked.

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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby Garudaman » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:45 am

no, because its baseless, just as question "do you steal? are you a racist?"
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Re: Islamic Theodicy/Why God Create Suffering

Postby Fernando » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:52 pm

Garudaman wrote:no, because its baseless, just as question "do you steal? are you a racist?"
How baseless? It may be rude to ask whether you are a thief or racist, but that doesn't make it baseless. It may, though, be baseless because the answer is pretty well bound to be "no", whether the answer is true or a lie.
So are you saying that there is no point to sum's question about your beliefs, because you have to say yes, you believe Allah knows your thoughts, whether that is true or not?
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