Garudaman and his proof that Islam is false.

[sum]

Hello Garudaman

You like to quote Koran 16:79.

Do they not look at the birds, held poised in the midst of (the air and) the sky?
Nothing holds them up but (the power of) God.
Verily in this are signs for those who believe. Surah 16:79 Yusuf Ali

Why birds are "held up in the sky" has all been explained through science and quite independent of any religion. It has nothing to do with any god and so your Koran shows that Islam is false and therefore Allah does not exist or that Muhammad was a prophet.

Please read the following - http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Sc ... light.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

sum

[Garudaman]

science will not be able to explain, how the air coincidentally can be used by bird to evolve fly, or by coincidence have characteristics that can be used by birds that need to fly for a long time!

[pr126]

How are aeroplanes held up in the sky?
By the will of Allah.

[sum]

Hello Garudaman

You are going to have to get used to the fact that you have highlighted one of the many errors in the Koran. If you still truly believe what you are saying on this matter then your reasoning has been very significantly destroyed by your Islamic mind programming. You are damaged goods.

How come non-muslims can see the error in Koran 16:79 when muslims can not? Do you ever wonder if you are a victim of thorough brainwashing?

sum

[Garudaman]

so synergy/regularity is created from/by something that random/irregular/don't wan't to set? do you understand the logic of causation?

[manfred]

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrate ... volve.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[sum]

Hello Garudaman

Your quote -
so synergy/regularity is created from/by something that random/irregular/don't wan't to set? do you understand the logic of causation?

This is irrelevant to Koran 16:79.

"Allah" has accepted that birds fly and says that nothing holds them up but "Allah". This is total nonsense. It is as clear as the nose on your face that it is air and the aerodynamics of wings that hold birds up in the air. Did your fictional "Allah", the sock puppet of Muhammad, not know this?

Koran 16:79 is not about the evolution of flight but the acceptance of present day flight.

Are you supporting "Allah`s" claim that only he holds birds up in the air rather than aerodynamics and air?

It would appear that you are following Al-Ghazali who said that when faith and reason are in conflict precedence should be given to faith.

Thank you for helping us to show that Islam is false.

sum

[Garudaman]

of course relevant, because air is created by Allah/God/something that wan't to set (the synergy of air characteristic & evolution of life, is the proof that air is created by Allah/God/something that wan't to set)!

[manfred]

Hello again, nice to see you back!

[Fernando]

of course relevant, because air is created by Allah/God/something that wan't to set (the synergy of air characteristic & evolution of life, is the proof that air is created by Allah/God/something that wan't to set)!

I haven't analysed the original thread, but this seems to suggest that evolution was created by Allah. How come, then, that modern Islamists not only deny evolution (which earlier Muslims claim to have been discovered by a Muslim) but even threatened a London imam for speaking in favour of evolution?