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pr126 wrote: Be careful what you wish for...
He is young, naive and extremely stupid, but the Christian Democrat will love his suggestion.
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Wow!!! I can't believe it. I am sure he is allowed to stay.
Utøya survivor to be deported for refugee lie

A survivor of the 2011 Utøya massacre is to be expelled from Norway, after he admitted that he had lied his way into the country as a refugee eleven years ago.

Khaled Ahmed Taleb (37) had claimed to be fleeing the brutal civil war in Somalia when he arrived in Norway in 2002.

He then went on to build a successful political career, representing the Labour party in both the Hedmark county council and the Hamar municipality, using the name Khalid Haji Ahmed.

But the politician earlier this year admitted to police that he in fact came from the relatively peaceful state of Djibouti, and was four years older than he had claimed.

Taleb lost his brother, who called himself Ismail Haji Ahmed, in the 2011 massacre carried out by Anders Breivik, the far-right terrorist. He himself was on the island of Utøya when the killer attacked.

After his deception was exposed, he gave up all political office, and in May this year was sentenced to four months in jail.

"He has done a good job motivating young people," Morten Aspeli, the mayor of Hamar, told NRK. "The decision to send Khaled out of the country has been made by the immigration authorities under Norwegian law, and I have to accept their reasoning."

"I hope I get another chance," Taleb told VG earlier this year. "I have not committed any serious crime in the years I have lived in Norway and I have contributed a lot to Norwegian society since I came here."

The immigration authorities have yet to rule on whether they will also expel Taleb's parents and two brothers, who he helped move to Norway in the years following his arrival.

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This is sick. Muslim immigrants get community service for gang rape of a 12-year old in Norway. The brave viking turned into left wing dhimmies.
A 12-year old consenting to rape? What are we: goat herders in the Afghan mountains?

Kaja Strandjord, the prosecutor, only asked for community service for the perpetrators.

A 12 year old girl from Namsos, Norway, was gang raped twice by four Muslim immigrants aged 15 to 18. All four perpetrator confessed, and argued that the twelve year old victim consented. The victim was gang raped on an elementary school playground.

The thugs were convicted of aggravated rape, but prosecutor Kaja Strandjord only asked the court for community service for the perpetrators!

The four monsters were collectively ordered to pay a fine. Three of the perps were also given community service.

One of the perpetrators was also convicted of raping another thirteen year old victim. He was only ordered to pay a fine for that rape.

The lawyer for the victim argued that the perps will likely be repeat offenders.

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Yes, sigh...but who is still surprised these days when you hear this kind of story.. It almost seems that judges do not know how to be fair nowadays. Our justice system all over Europe has gone downhill. Those poor Muslims boys don't know any better our judges say, because they never learned it is illegal to have sex with a with a young girl. Like in England. Do you still remember this story? It is about Adil Rashid, 18 years old who had sex with a 13 year old girl, and because he did not know it is not right to rape a 13 year old girl, he got of very lightly.
A muslim who raped a 13-year-old girl he groomed on Facebook has been spared a prison sentence after a judge heard he went to an Islamic faith school where he was taught that women are worthless.

Adil Rashid, 18, claimed he was not aware that it was illegal for him to have sex with the girl because his education left him ignorant of British law.

Yesterday Judge Michael Stokes handed Rashid a suspended sentence, saying: ‘Although chronologically 18, it is quite clear from the reports that you are very naive and immature when it comes to sexual matters.’

Earlier Nottingham Crown Court heard that such crimes usually result in a four to seven-year prison sentence.

But the judge said that because Rashid was ‘passive’ and ‘lacking assertiveness’, sending him to jail might cause him ‘more damage than good’.
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Watch this video. Norway Muslim leader Fahad Qureshi asks the assembled Muslims if they're "extremists," or just ordinary Muslims. They affirm that they're all just ordinary Muslims. Then he asks them if they support Sharia punishments -- stonings, amputations, the execution of gays, etc. -- and they all affirm that as well. This is an audience of Salafis, to be sure, but the problem is that we do not see Muslims who reject this perspective standing up and countering it in any significant numbers.


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I love those honest Muslims. They should have daily free broadcasting time at prime time, in Norway, and in all other European countries. But...I am afraid that Islam hugging left wingies will not believe this Muslim and his audience.
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It seems to me that some people in Norway are getting used to the sharia practice of chopping hands . They even sell them. :barf:

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Norwegian bargain store Europris has been forced to withdraw a range of fake shrink-wrapped body parts after the Halloween gifts sparked a public outcry.

The severed hands, which are wrapped to resemble meat sold in a supermarket, were the subject of a story on Norway's NRK website on Monday.

"Our intention was obviously not to upset our customers," Knut Spæren, the company's purchasing manager told the channel. "Now we are withdrawing the few products that people have complained about, including the severed hands."

The Facebook page of NRK Sørlandet, which broke the story, was full of angry comments on Tuesday.

"There's no doubt my children would have been terrified if they'd seen this in the shops," wrote Mona Urfjell. "I think it's such a shame that we have an American tradition so violently forced down our throats."
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"Who the hell could allow such things?" wrote Ivar Larsen. "Do we not have enough violence in the country without these kind of crazy people bringing such things into the shops."

Perhaps the shop can dump the bloody severed hands in Saudi Arabia . I guess they would love this delicacy as a special treat with `id-al-fitr. ;) Can you imagine how a couple of those hands would look on the diner table?
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Norway’s teenage jihadis held against their will

Published: 31 Oct 2013

The two Norwegian-Somali teenaged sisters who travelled to Syria to aid the civil war effort are now being held against their will and are desperate to return home, the girls’ father has told state broadcaster NRK.

“They want to return to Norway, and they regret what they have done,” he said.

The father, who travelled to Turkey this month to find his daughters before they reach the front line, was contacted by his daughters, who are 19 and 16 years old, over the social networking site Facebook on Tuesday night.

He said the two girls were now in Syria, although they could not tell him how they had crossed the border.

He said that the rebels fighters from the Free Syrian Army had offered to take him into Syria and help him find his daughters.

“I am willing to go into Syria anytime, preferably as soon as possible,” he said.

Frode Andersen, a spokesman for Norway’s foreign ministry said he they had so far not been informed of the alleged kidnapping.

“If it’s true that there are now concerns of a kidnapping, and that they are being held against their will in Syria, this is of course a very serious matter,” he said.
This has nothing to do with "alleged kidnapping" The girls went there out of free will.
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Three people killed in Norway after knife-wielding man hijacks passenger bus

A knife-wielding man hijacked a bus in western Norway on Monday and killed three people on board, including the bus driver, police said.
Police in Sogn and Fjordane county in western Norway gave few details about the suspect, but said he had lived close to the scene of the attack, and was originally from South Sudan.

This is not the first time a bus was attacked in Norway. The same bus route was attacked in 2003 when an Ethiopian man stabbed a bus driver to death.
That man had earlier that day also killed a Congolese asylum seeker at a refugee center. The Ethiopian is now free and still lives in Norway.
It seems that the hijacker of this bus had to leave Norway.
It also seems that time in prison in Norway looked a better option for this man than to be send back to Sudan, and who can blame him except the poor victims and their family.

Have you ever seen a prison in Norway? It is more like a hotel or holiday camp.
Can luxury prisons and a more humane approach to detention be a deterrent for crime in modern society?
The answer lies in Halden, Norway.
About a 100 Km south of Oslo, a state of-the-art prison considered by many the World’s most ‘luxurious’ has opened in June 2010, in a country already boasting criminal and rehabilitation systems of the highest standards.

Individual cells come with an en-suite bathroom, a flat-screen TV and various comforts. They measure 12 square meters and are divided up into units (10 to 12) which share a living room and kitchen, similarly to a students’ dormitory. The windows are not fitted with bars, but thick glass is used instead.

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The maximum sentence in Norway, even for murder, is 21 years. Since most inmates will eventually return to society, prisons mimic the outside world as much as possible to prepare them for freedom.

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And this one is even better. Bastoy prison island. Have a look. You will be pleasantly surprised.

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"In Monday's edition of the newspaper Our Country, newscaster Siv Kristin Sællmann from NRK (Norwegian public tv) says that she was asked by the management to not use a necklace with gold cross on television."

But...."turban, hijab and jewish caps have now been allowed as part of the uniforms within the norwegian military. the defense ministry has given the go-ahead to use certain symbols with the uniform, writes stavanger aftenblad."
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Victimized by Muslims? You Deserve It

By Bruce Bawer

Late one night two years ago, only days before Christmas, two burglars wearing ski masks climbed through an open window into the Oslo home of Arild Opheim and Elin Ruhlin Gjuvsland. The noise they made woke Elin first. She saw a shadow through the bedroom door. Next thing she knew, the two intruders were on top of her and Arild, holding them down on the mattress and saying, in English, "Don't look. Sleep. If look, we kill."

The thugs tied up the couple – both of whom have worked for years as journalists and program hosts for NRK, the state TV and radio broadcasting system – and gathered up various items, including computers and telephones. Arild and Elin also handed over their bank cards and pin codes. The men were "very aggressive" – one of them struck Elin in the head with a blunt metal object. But they also attempted, as the couple explained last Friday on the TV talk show Skavlan and in a Dagbladet op-ed, to "win sympathy by telling their story."

In a mixture of Spanish, Arabic, and broken English, they maintained that they "weren't evil people" but were "in a desperate situation. They wanted to be able to reside and work and lead a normal life in Norway. But their asylum application had been rejected. Now they had no other choice than to rob us and to get money to return home." In order to get back home "see their families," they "needed 20,000 kroner" – about $4000. "They'd had a tough life, while Norwegians had it good." Arild and Elin, said one of the crooks, deserved what they were getting.

(In fact, no rejected asylum seeker in Norway needs to rob anybody to get home. The Norwegian government pays all the expenses for such repatriation. And then some.)

Soon after the traumatic episode was over, both of the perpetrators were nabbed by cops. One of them, an 18-year-old Algerian who’d lived in Spain for several years, was sentenced to a year and seven months in jail and ordered to pay 60,169 kroner to Elin and 26,847 kroner to Arild. His confederate was arrested in Denmark and placed in a “youth prison,” from which he escaped; he’s now on the lam. As for Arild and Elin, the whole nightmarish experience made them, in their own words, “skittish and careful.” It caused them to think “ugly thoughts about immigrants.” Elin “couldn’t even stand hearing small children speaking Arabic.” Eventually they decided to write a book.

It’s now out, entitled Uninvited Guests. On Skavlan, they said that writing it was their salvation. For after that terrible night, you see, they were in peril – in peril of something far worse than just losing their lives. They were in peril, quite simply, of viewing themselves, and being viewed by others, as racists.

Racists! As Elin put it, she came dangerously close to buying the theory “that immigrants are just coming here to exploit us, that we have to make sure that there won’t want be too many of them, and that we’re going to be overpopulated with certain nationalities in fifty years.” She’d begun to worry that thanks to lax immigration policies, there was “going to be massive crime so that we’re not safe in our own city.” In short, she was on the brink: “I thought: ‘Damn it, is this going to turn me into a racist?’”

Pause for a moment and ponder that statement. “I thought: ‘Damn it, is this going to turn me into a racist?‘” Note, especially, the implied definition of “racist” – namely, someone who has a realistic understanding of current criminal statistics, of reasonable demographic projections, and of the less-than-noble motivations of many “non-Western immigrants.”

But Arild and Elin’s story ends in victory. To be sure, Elin admits that she’s more scared now than before about her children’s everyday security. But, she affirms triumphantly, “we haven’t become racists.” Au contraire! Thanks to those men who climbed in their window, physically abused them, and threatened their lives, she and Arild have become first-class dhimmis. As they wrote in their op-ed, they now agree with what one of their uninvited guests told them:

Yes, we are getting what we deserve….We’re getting what we deserve because of Norway’s, and Europe’s, immigration policies. Because they’re too strict.

Yep, you read that right: Europe’s immigration policies, which have transformed the continent in the blink of an eye, are “too strict.” Arild and Elin defend their thesis as follows:

Why do people move? Why do emigration and immigration take place? It’s about dreams. They have a dream that life can be better in one way or another if they move – whether it’s from one neighborhood to another or from one continent to another.

Whether one moves from Norway to Spain because one is tired of the cold or whether one comes from North Africa to Europe in the hope of working a few years and saving money for a house in one’s homeland, it amounts to the same thing. It’s dreams that motivate us. It’s totally normal. We all have dreams of another and better life. Can there be anything criminal about that?


Dreams! To put it briefly: a retired Norwegian couple who’ve worked hard all their lives and spent their savings to buy a co-op in Alicante – where they obey the law and contribute to the economy – are no different from Muslim “youths” who make their way to Norway with fake identity documents and set about bullying and tormenting the natives. They come , write Arild and Elin, “with a dream of a better life, for a period or permanently.” And what do Norwegians do?

We stick them in an asylum center – which Progress Party politicians now want to lock up, like prisons. We treat dreamers as if they were thugs. And perhaps that makes it easier for them to actually become thugs? When we crush their dreams of residency and jobs, and force them into an illegal life on the street, perhaps we do get what we deserve when they turn to crime to survive. That was what the guys who robbed us said. Over time, we’ve come to understand what they meant.

If they’re thugs, then, it’s our fault. They may rob or rape or kill us – but even as they’re doing so, we’re still the bad guys, and they’re still the real victims.

Such is the argument advanced by these two NRK journalists. It’s clear enough what happened here: Arild and Elin, in their urgent quest to avoid thinking of themselves as “racists,” grasped onto their intruder’s claim that he and his buddy would never have committed such an offense if their asylum applications hadn’t been rejected. This allows Arild and Elin to suggest that if only all asylum seekers were allowed in, such transgressions would be a thing of the past.

The tiny little problem with this proposition is that Arild and Elin’s rhetoric bears virtually no relationship to reality. Repeated horror stories coming from the asylum centers – where stabbings and riots are frequent occurrences – only serve to underscore the fact that we’re not speaking here about gentle souls driven to violence by cruel circumstance; rather, we’re speaking about a systematic, reckless endangerment of the Norwegian people by authorities who share Arild and Elin’s immunity to the facts about the people they’re importing into the country and planting, like bombs, in previously peacable rural villages. And the facts are very much on the side of those who argue for locked asylum centers and for sending rejected applicants back home at once.

In recent years, violent felonies by asylum seekers have become an outrageously disproportionate part of Norwegian life. One morning in 2004, on the same tram that my partner took to work every day at almost exactly that hour, a Somali man stabbed five people, killing one, 23-year-old Terje Mjåland (who, being deaf, may not have heard his fellow passengers’ screams). Did he deserve it? Two years later, an asylum seeker from Algeria walked into the Oslo office of a remarkably kind, gentle doctor I knew, Stein Sjaastad, and stabbed him to death. Did he deserve it?

Arild and Elin have a proposal: “Why not open the borders and let them regulate themselves?” After all, they ask, what are international boundaries other than lines on a map that have been “constantly shifting all through history”? That being the case, how can we think we have the right “to refuse to let people cross the lines we have drawn around us?” Yes, they’re aware of Oslo’s current wave of robberies and burglaries (the overwhelming majority of which have been committed by “non-Western immigrants”), and they claim to understand the need to fight crime. But the most effective approach, they say, is to “fight the need to commit crime” by “helping the dreamers – illegal immigrants – who are standing helpless on the streets of Europe.” In other words, the solution to bloodthirsty lawlessness by non-Western immigrants is to bring in more of them. If Norwegians don’t do so, “we will only continue to get what we deserve.”

So ends Arild’s and Elin’s op-ed. Reading it online, I couldn’t wait to see the reader comments. Alas, at the bottom of the page I found this single sentence: “The comments section was clos ed on Saturday afternoon owing to several hateful and harassing posts.” Not only was it closed – the comments had been removed. Fortunately, the website document.no has reproduced them. There are hundreds, maybe thousands. I read a few dozen. They’re not “hateful and harassing.” They’re the reactions of Norwegians who have their heads screwed on straight and who’ve had it with the likes of Arild and Elin, whom they describe, variously, as “naïve,” “warped and indoctrinated,” and fiercely determined “to be politically correct.”

Indeed. For my part, I’m grateful to Arild and Elin for providing this illuminating glimpse into the psychology of political correctness. They describe their burglars as desperate to get home. But it’s Arild and Elin who, after their awful experience, were desperate to get “back home” – back home, that is, to the comforting certainties of their PC ideology.

And they did. What a stirring triumph! Their ideology came smack up against reality – and yet they found a way to cling to it nonetheless.

I look forward to their commentary on the country’s latest atrocity. On Monday evening, a rejected asylum seeker from South Sudan hijacked a bus in western Norway and murdered three people. He was living in a nearby asylum center that had been in operation for just three months ago. If the Progress Party had had its way, the center would have been locked – but of course that would’ve been inhuman. If the locals had had their way, according to news reports, the center would never have been there in the first place: it was forced upon them by county officials, who considered their opposition xenophobic.

The murder victims were the bus driver, a Swedish passenger in his fifties, and a 19-year-old girl who was identified as Margaret Molland Sanden, a chemistry and biotechnology student at the College of Oslo and Akershus whose Facebook page shows that she was a fan of Bob Dylan and of 24. Three unfortunate deaths, undoubtedly. But, after all, they got what they deserved. Right?

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Norway capital sees rising number of women in niqabs

The trend of wearing the religious garment, a black veil that covers a woman head to toe, has apparently developed rapidly over the past two years.

“Yes, the niqab is popular,” Kari Vogt, a historian on religion and Islam, confirmed to Aftenposten, Thursday.

“A new generation of Muslims is entering Norwegian society at full speed, and some of them choose a more Salafist Islam, a strict and literal interpretation of Islamic injunctions and prohibitions,” she added.

The Salafi Movement (also known as Salafi methodology/Salafist movement) is a sect among the Sunni Muslims often associated with a stricter and more literal line of the religion.

It is often associated with the Wahhabi Movement, an even more conservative and fundamentalist branch of Sunni Islam.

According to Aftenposten, a vast majority of the dozen fabric shops in Oslo’s Grønland have experienced an increased turnover in niqab sales.

Journalists have been in contact with several women who use or sell niqabs in recent weeks, but they say none have come forward.

At the same time, Muslims and experts who did respond to enquiries believe that the niqab trend is due an identity quest, a need for attention, youthful idealism, or reaction to the injustice in the world and Western politics’ presence in the Muslim world.

Two of Norway’s leading experts on Islam have denied that the Qur’an imposes the use of a niqab in any way.

Historian Kari Vogt and Anne Sofie Roald – a professor in religious studies in Malmö University and affiliate at the Chr. Michelsen Institute (CMI) in Bergen – explained it was mainly to do with its interpretation.

“There is nothing concrete in the Qur’an or Hadith which requires the use of the niqab,” said Ms. Roald.

“However, Salafists that base themselves on the Wahhabi Movement believe there’s a verse in the Qur’an stating that women should stay at home not only applies to the Prophet’s wives, but all Muslim women,” she explained.

“In addition, it is stated in the Qur’an that men had to talk to the Prophet’s wives behind a curtain. From this, Salafists believe that women have to cover themselves completely when they go out.”

Professor Roald also believes that the lack of Arabic knowledge of many converts and second generation Muslims might explains the increase of the use in the niqab.

These women tend to seek out translations and websites which contain more literal interpretations of the Qur’an, according to her.

Aftenposten also writes that important translations often contain Wahabi Movement interpretations of the veil/shawl in brackets. These are apparently financed by Saudis.

“Salafists are very active online, in Arabic, English, and Norwegian,” said the professor.

“Many Somali scholars have had their Islamic education in Saudi-Arabia, therefore they teach this to their Somali countrymen in the diaspora,” she added.

Discussions about wearing the Niqab in Norway have surfaced from time-to-time, both at academic and political level, amongst others.

Earlier this year, Vestfold County officials were considering imposing a ban during Adult Education classes. Some one year earlier, a University of Tromsø professor did this for during his lectures.

Current government coalition Party Progress (FrP) has also suggested vetoing wearing it in the past.

Then Party spokesman on immigration policy Per-Willy Amundsen, now their energy issues spokesman, claimed garments that envelop the entire body have no connection to freedom of religious expression.

“There are limits. It’s got nothing to do with religion, and certainly isn’t voluntary. At least, I can’t understand why anybody would willingly choose to wear a tent,” he told VG, suggesting penalizing women who wore a niqab in public.

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:cry: Poor animal.
Rudolph goes halal: Norway exports sharia certified reindeer

Eating Santa Claus' best friend:

"For the first time reindeer are being halal slaughtered in Norway. Most of the meat will probably be sold in Oslo, but some of the meat can end up in Dubai. ...

'This is a completely new halal product that Muslims have not had access to before. I have been told that the meat is very good, but I have never tasted it myself,' said general secretary Mehtab Afsar from Islamic Council Norway"

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I saw this on Jihad Watch too.
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Norway deports record number of Muslims to reduce crime

A record number of foreign citizens were deported from Norway last year, after country’s police stepped up the use of deportation as a way of fighting crime.

Some 5,198 foreign citizens were expelled from the country in 2013, an increase of 31 percent since 2012, when 3,958 people were deported.

“It is the highest number we’ve had ever,” Frode Forfang, head of the Directorate of Immigration (UDI), told NRK. “We believe that one reason for the increase is that the police have become more conscious of using deportation as a tool to fight crime.”

Nigerian citizens topped the list of those expelled for committing crimes, with 232 citizens expelled as a punishment in 2013, followed by Afghan citizens with 136 expelled as a punishment, and 76 Moroccans expelled as a punishment.

Afghan citizens topped the list of those expelled for violating the Immigration Act, with 380 expelled for this reason, followed by Iraqi citizens, 234 were expelled for violating the act.

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Muslim immigrant gangs, having all but destroyed Swedish cities like Malmo are expanding their crime and burglary sprees to Oslo, Norway

Gangs of criminal youths from Muslim immigrant suburbs of Stockholm and Gothenburg have started traveling to Norway to commit burglaries and other crimes, police in Oslo have reported.

The Local (h/t Marina) Geir Ellefsen, police superintendent at Oslo’s Majorstua Police Station said: “We have seen a development in recent years where more and more criminals are arriving in Norway from Sweden, and it looks like the trend will continue this year as well.”

The statement came as a gang of four Swedish citizens were arrested on Monday, charged with carrying out four burglaries in Oslo in just one week. The men were arrested as they left the hotel where they had been staying and a police search of their room discovered items stolen from several different apartments.

Ellefsen said most of the Swedish gang members causing trouble in Norway were well-known to Swedish police, and that their anonymity in Norway, as well as the relative wealth of the country’s citizens, was what was luring them across the border.

”They also know well that there is a lot of wealth in Norwegian homes,” he said. Three of the four Swedes arrested are of Somali descent, while the fourth is Iraqi. Oslo police believe the group committed at lease five of the total 30 burglaries reported in the city in January.

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( smile) Norway still has to get used to the "culture" of its immigrants.
Norway's 'cushy' prisons spurring foreign cons

The number of foreigners in Norwegian prisons has quadrupled in the past 14 years. The reason: the jails are too nice - at least according to some lawyers and police officers.

There’s no denying that Norwegian prisons have earned a global reputation for cushy conditions. CNN has described Bastøy prison as the “world’s nicest”, comparing it to a summer camp. Time Magazine said Halden jail was the world’s “most humane”.

The prisons’ defenders say that good prison conditions help explain Norway’s low reoffending rate - at about 30 percent, it’s the lowest in Europe. Others say that while this might apply to Norwegian criminals, it could be having the opposite effect on foreign offenders.

According to statistics published by TV2, the percentage of foreign citizens in Norway’s jails has risen from 8.6 percent in 2000 to 34.2 percent at the end of last month.

Foreign prisoners, even those living illegally in Norway, have the same rights as other inmates, who are usually allowed TVs and computers in their rooms; other perks include access to culture, pocket money, religious services, phone calls home and healthcare. They can also apply for extra grants for items such as clothing.

All these facilities mean jail provides little deterrence to many foreign criminals, lawyer Jostein Alvheim told TV2:

“I don’t think a prison sentence is particularly off-putting to some people in these groups - they take their chances and do so deliberately to give themselves a better life,” he said.

The TV station reported that a number of defence lawyers had described clients “almost smiling” at Norwegian sentences, with some saying they took a calculated risk over being jailed in Norway. Police in Bergen said they shared this assessment:

“A big problem is that people who are deported for crimes come back and commit more crimes. Things are developing in the wrong way - we’re getting increasing numbers of illegal immigrants in Norway who are committing crimes,” said police lawyer Arne Fjellstad.

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The wellknown islam-critic Imran Firasat (36) was Monaday afternoon put on a plane and sent back to Spain.

Firasat came to Norway July 8th, and hoped to apply for asylum. Instead he was put in prison, in the very same wing where the notorious mullah Krekar is sitting. But while Krekar can enjoy the right not to be expelled from Norway, because he might be harmed, no such consideration was given Firasat.

Norwegian authorities stick to the formal side of things: Spain is a signatory to the Dublin-convention, which stipulates that all asylum seekers should have their application processed by the authorities in the first country they enter.

But the tricky thing is that the Spanish Supreme Court has ruled that Firasat should be expelled from the country, being a security threat.


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If I was in his shoes I would head for South America... Belize, maybe, or Uruguay ...

If he wants to stay in Europe, his best chance is Lichtenstein...
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This is rich... Guess which country is being threatened into complying with Sharia law....

A Muslim terrorist group is threatening a 9/11-type attack in Norway if a section of Oslo isn't turned into Sharia-compliant territory.
The Norwegian news portal VG Nett is reporting that a Muslim terrorist group, Ansar al-Sunna’, is threatening that if a section of the nation's capitol isn't transformed into a sharia-complaint Muslim nation, an attack rivaling 9/11 will be launched upon the Scandinavian nation.

VG Nett has stated that the Norwegian Police Security Service (Politiets sikkerhetstjeneste - PST) is already familiar with many members of this particular terror group.

As translated by Michael Laudahn,
"If norwegian soldiers can take planes to Afghanistan, then Osama and Mohammed can also take planes to Norway, inshaAllah.

Now, the government must wake up and assume responsibility, before this war spreads to Norway. Before the counterpart reacts. Before moslems take the step necessary.

Do not confuse the moslems’ silence with weakness. Do not profit from the moslems’ patience. Do not force us to do something that can be avoided. This is not a threat, only the words of truth. The words of justice.

A warning that the consequences can be fatal. A warning about a 9/11 on norwegian ground, or larger attacks than the one carried out on 22 july. This is for your own good and in your own best interest.’

We do not want to be a part of norwegian society. And we do not consider it necessary either to move away from Norway, because we were born and grew up here. And Allah’s earth belongs to everybody.

But let Grønland become ours. Bar this city quarter and let us control it the way we wish to do it. This is the best for both parts.
We do not wish to live together with dirty beasts like you."

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Are you surprised? Walk around a school yard.... which kids are most likely to be bullied? The quiet, nice, polite ones. Maybe this will serve as a wake-up call.

The idea of giving Greenland (or part of it) to Muslims sounds tempting. Round them up and drop them on the beach there, if one can find one without a glacier... As to having "grown up" in Norway, they should know though that Greenland is a self-governing region of DENMARK, much like Svalbard is within Norway...

They immigrant in Greenland too, one apparently... and they also have one, just one, gay man, as in the comedy series "Little Britain"... All in all, a rather odd choice for Muslims. And if Ramadan falls in the summer, fasting will be VERY long indeed.

Still, if they insist to live there, then leave them to it... It should be nice and far away from any locals though, to avoid trouble, and if there are no houses or shops, well Muslim enterprise, ingenuity and self-reliance will surely manage to conjure them up out of nothing.

I mean, when the pilgrim fathers went to America, there was no social security office waiting for them on the beach either...
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