Hello Infidels

[fantasea]

Hello everyone.

I will probably get banned for what I have done, but I have to confess, I am an ex-Muslim. I apostatised almost 2 years ago.

The reason why I was pretending to be a Muslim was to hear what your responses would be like to a real Muslim. If I had revealed myself as an ex Muslim since the beginning I think that your answers would be a bit different.

As you can see, I still have Muslim logic, I can think like one, actually I pretend to be one in real life, with family and friends, everyday. So I practice a lot. Our conversations revolve around the same blind faithed Muslim logic I was using here. It makes me feel sick.

So I apologize for boiling your blood and wasting your time. At least you got to practice, and hear common sense Muslim dialectic.

If I get banned I understand.

Again, my most sincere apologies.

[fantasea]

These guys were right.

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Hello pr126

Perhaps his username - fantasea - is a clue. In any case he is another example of what damage Islamic indoctrination does to the brain. It really does destroy critical thinking and creates a barrier to facts and reason.

The tragedy is that they are unable to see this.

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[skynightblaze]

Perhaps I should listen more to my inner voice often. For a moment or so, I had felt that you are pretending to be a muslim but I brushed away that feeling. Anyway Welcome to the forum and I don't think people will ban you for the prank. . Pranks are real fun and I like people who play them.

[fantasea]

Perhaps I should listen more to my inner voice often. For a moment or so, I had felt that you are pretending to be a muslim but I brushed away that feeling. Anyway Welcome to the forum and I don't think people will ban you for the prank. . Pranks are real fun and I like people who play them.

LOL, good to be here amongst like minded people. I have to admit, it was fun to troll around like a crazy muslim. The sad thing is that this is how many muslims think.

I have been debating muslims in other forums and I think I have unveiled to them some of the ugly truths about this religion.

It is fun and annoying at the same time to see them perform contortions with the verses, to try to rationalize them, etc.

[pr126]

Welcome to the forum.

Perhaps you did carry on the deception a bit longer than necessary. Besides, I don't see the point.
All you had to do is read the posts on the forum (lurk) until you got what you needed.

It is unwise to start with a deception. You will have to work on restoring your credibility.

[fantasea]

Welcome to the forum.

Perhaps you did carry on the deception a bit longer than necessary. Besides, I don't see the point.
All you had to do is read the posts on the forum (lurk) until you got what you needed.

It is unwise to start with a deception. You will have to work on restoring your credibility.

You are right, I did take it very far.

Deep in my mind there is still a bit of Islamic nonsense, I just wanted you to erase it from my mind with your arguments.

The reason why I stopped was because I was starting to contradict myself and was going to get caught talking nonsense.

I will restore my credibility, you'll see.

[frankie]

Hello everyone.

I will probably get banned for what I have done, but I have to confess, I am an ex-Muslim. I apostatised almost 2 years ago.

The reason why I was pretending to be a Muslim was to hear what your responses would be like to a real Muslim. If I had revealed myself as an ex Muslim since the beginning I think that your answers would be a bit different.

As you can see, I still have Muslim logic, I can think like one, actually I pretend to be one in real life, with family and friends, everyday. So I practice a lot. Our conversations revolve around the same blind faithed Muslim logic I was using here. It makes me feel sick.

So I apologize for boiling your blood and wasting your time. At least you got to practice, and hear common sense Muslim dialectic.

If I get banned I understand.

Again, my most sincere apologies.

Fantasea:

Good to know you are an ex Muslim after all.

What exactly made you beome an ex Muslim?

[fantasea]

Leaning about Mohammed, about how conveniently he received revelation, seeing how shitty Muslim countries were, the problem of evil, free will, etc...

[skynightblaze]

Deep in my mind there is still a bit of Islamic nonsense, I just wanted you to erase it from my mind with your arguments.

You might feel awkward about bringing islamic thoughts here in front of us thinking that you have annoyed us enough. I would suggest that you do not keep anything in your mind. If these thoughts are kept in mind, you will never be at peace and you will always think somewhere at the back of your mind that may be islam is true.. So bring any islamic thought that you have in mind here. I can assure that you most of arguments used in favour of islam are nonsense. If you just put out your islamic thoughts someone or the other will refute them and you will have a clear vision of why islam is a lie. You will be at peace and 100% confident that islam is a lie. If you ask me as to how confident I am about islam being false then I would say, I am as sure as I know that I am breathing.

[fantasea]

Deep in my mind there is still a bit of Islamic nonsense, I just wanted you to erase it from my mind with your arguments.

You might feel awkward about bringing islamic thoughts here in front of us thinking that you have annoyed us enough. I would suggest that you do not keep anything in your mind. If these thoughts are kept in mind, you will never be at peace and you will always think somewhere at the back of your mind that may be islam is true.. So bring any islamic thought that you have in mind here. I can assure that you most of arguments used in favour of islam are nonsense. If you just put out your islamic thoughts someone or the other will refute them and you will have a clear vision of why islam is a lie. You will be at peace and 100% confident that islam is a lie. If you ask me as to how confident I am about islam being false then I would say, I am as sure as I know that I am breathing.

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it.

It happens when I debate more experienced Muslim debaters and get refuted. It makes me doubt whether I am wrong.

I posted a link in the hadith/quran forum to a debate I am having right now, would appreciate your advice.

[Sanji]

Hello everyone.

I will probably get banned for what I have done, but I have to confess, I am an ex-Muslim. I apostatised almost 2 years ago.

The reason why I was pretending to be a Muslim was to hear what your responses would be like to a real Muslim. If I had revealed myself as an ex Muslim since the beginning I think that your answers would be a bit different.

As you can see, I still have Muslim logic, I can think like one, actually I pretend to be one in real life, with family and friends, everyday. So I practice a lot. Our conversations revolve around the same blind faithed Muslim logic I was using here. It makes me feel sick.

So I apologize for boiling your blood and wasting your time. At least you got to practice, and hear common sense Muslim dialectic.

If I get banned I understand.

Again, my most sincere apologies.

Thank you!! Since I am an aposte, I was trying to find out arguments againsts some my conclusions about Islam and Muhammad. When you replied to one of my post, I was really fooled thinking that you are Muslim. So keep it your pespective and try to find faults with my arguments!!

[frankie]

Leaning about Mohammed, about how conveniently he received revelation, seeing how shitty Muslim countries were, the problem of evil, free will, etc...

fantasea:

Thanks.
From what you know of the Muslim people,would you say that they now have severe reservations about their faith,but because of fear, holding them back,they are unable to take that one further step of leaving their faith?

Would you agree that Muslims are now questioning their faith more than at any time in history?

[fantasea]

Leaning about Mohammed, about how conveniently he received revelation, seeing how shitty Muslim countries were, the problem of evil, free will, etc...

fantasea:

Thanks.
From what you know of the Muslim people,would you say that they now have severe reservations about their faith,but because of fear, holding them back,they are unable to take that one further step of leaving their faith?

Would you agree that Muslims are now questioning their faith more than at any time in history?

Let me give you an example of what the muslim state of mind is like.

I was in a car with my uncle and an old muslim guy. My uncle asked the guy if it was haram to have a wife in different countries, because he travels a lot. He was actually joking.

The old man said "you mean like the shia, temporary marriage? that is haram"
Then I jumped in and said, you can have sex slaves.
You can imagine their reaction. They said that I was stupid, that Islam is against this, astakhferulah, etc.
I took out my phone and showed them the verses in the Quran.
The convo went something like this:
old man: it mean that you have to marry first then have sex.
me: it says "your wives and what your right hand possesses", which means that their are not wives.
Old man: yes but, you don't understand, it means that your wives first and then your right hand possessions.
me: so it is ok to have sex with your slaves.
old man: you still don't understand....

They were in denial, their brains shut down and became illogical and irrational.

[frankie]

fantasea:

Thanks for your reply.

You are in harmony with Ali Sina,who says the same.However,what he does also say is that he knows his own people,who for the most part are good people who want to live at peace with others.When they read exactly what their so far hidden scriptures stand for,as they only have taken what their teachers have told them,they will eventually leave,as they will want no part of teachings so dangerous towards humanity.

Or is this reasoning far too naive to contemplate in your opinion?

[fantasea]

I think that they go through life in a state of denial and complete submission to Allah. They don't bother to search, think and learn for themselves. They rely on Islamic authority to do that for themselves themselves. If you are not a scholar you are wrong or don't know any thing about Islam. Most are hypocrites, at least from my experience. They are also self righteous. They are comfortable living this life that promises recompense and punishment for those who lived a more free life.

[frankie]

I think that they go through life in a state of denial and complete submission to Allah. They don't bother to search, think and learn for themselves. They rely on Islamic authority to do that for themselves themselves. If you are not a scholar you are wrong or don't know any thing about Islam. Most are hypocrites, at least from my experience. They are also self righteous. They are comfortable living this life that promises recompense and punishment for those who lived a more free life.

fantasea:
I would agree with what you say.

BUT,Islam has never been discussed the like as much in recorded history,does this not beg the question,why this is?Why should this faith be centre stage,when in reallity it should be extinct?
Why is this belief system generating so much discussion,what are the reasons for it?

There are more than enough valid reasons why Islam is being discussed,disected,and exposed in every corner of the media,internet,books,interfaith dialogues and all the rest.

Wherever Islam is present,wars are present also,they follow in the wake of Islam like the smell from a rotting corpse,polluting the atmosphere around it.

All this discussion is being seen, taken in by not just the Non Muslims,but by Muslims who have never had their faith explored in such a fashion as to expose all its weakness and falsehood in all its diabolical glory than ever before. Yes,they will not accept these accusations,and yes they will be in denial,but only for so long.They cannot fail to perceive that what is being said about their faith is factual,and therefore cannot be argued against, no matter how much they try,or want it to be all untrue.

The actions of the followers of this faith are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt,that Islam has nothing good to offer the world,spiritually or otherwise,and never has.

The world is watching,but Muslims are asking questions,and those questions are providing answers,they are uncovering the lies which have been fed to them since birth.

Will they still want to remain within a faith which is based on lies?

You must know this more than most,but I suspect not.

[fantasea]

I think that they go through life in a state of denial and complete submission to Allah. They don't bother to search, think and learn for themselves. They rely on Islamic authority to do that for themselves themselves. If you are not a scholar you are wrong or don't know any thing about Islam. Most are hypocrites, at least from my experience. They are also self righteous. They are comfortable living this life that promises recompense and punishment for those who lived a more free life.

fantasea:
I would agree with what you say.

BUT,Islam has never been discussed the like as much in recorded history,does this not beg the question,why this is?Why should this faith be centre stage,when in reallity it should be extinct?
Why is this belief system generating so much discussion,what are the reasons for it?

There are more than enough valid reasons why Islam is being discussed,disected,and exposed in every corner of the media,internet,books,interfaith dialogues and all the rest.

Wherever Islam is present,wars are present also,they follow in the wake of Islam like the smell from a rotting corpse,polluting the atmosphere around it.

All this discussion is being seen, taken in by not just the Non Muslims,but by Muslims who have never had their faith explored in such a fashion as to expose all its weakness and falsehood in all its diabolical glory than ever before. Yes,they will not accept these accusations,and yes they will be in denial,but only for so long.They cannot fail to perceive that what is being said about their faith is factual,and therefore cannot be argued against, no matter how much they try,or want it to be all untrue.

The actions of the followers of this faith are proving beyond a shadow of a doubt,that Islam has nothing good to offer the world,spiritually or otherwise,and never has.

The world is watching,but Muslims are asking questions,and those questions are providing answers,they are uncovering the lies which have been fed to them since birth.

Will they still want to remain within a faith which is based on lies?

You must know this more than most,but I suspect not.

These people always have an excuse; everyone is against them, Jews, etc.

They also believe that it is meant to be this way, they will get worse and worse but then the tables will turn and Islam will be victorious.

I think it is a prophecy.

Also, most Muslims will dismiss all the evidence proving Islam to be a false religion by claiming that Satan is behind this. They have invested many years of their lives to please Allah and really want to go to heaven. If you tell them that they wasted their time they won't believe you.

[jihadnews]

You are right, I did take it very far.

Deep in my mind there is still a bit of Islamic nonsense, I just wanted you to erase it from my mind with your arguments.

The reason why I stopped was because I was starting to contradict myself and was going to get caught talking nonsense.

I will restore my credibility, you'll see.

Say to those who have disbelieved that if they cease,
what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them…