Garudaman wrote:QS. 42:39. And those who, when tyranny strikes them, they defend themselves,
QS. 42:40. And the retribution for an evil act is an evil one like it, but whoever pardons and makes reconciliation - his reward is [due] from Allah. Indeed, He does not like wrongdoers.
QS. 42:41. And whoever avenges himself after having been wronged - those have not upon them any cause [for blame].
QS. 42:42. The cause is only against the ones who wrong the people and tyrannize upon the earth without right. Those will have a painful punishment.
QS. 42:43. And whoever is patient and forgives - indeed, that is of the matters [requiring] determination.
sum wrote:Please tell me what right have Muhammad and other muslims to impose Islamic laws on other innocent people living as they choose by their own laws in their own lands.
....if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger...
Garudaman wrote:who says Muhammad the Messenger of God do that?
manfred wrote:Gandhi was a clever and principled man, but he either was either mistaken about the nature of Islam or he tried to use Muslims for his political aims
manfred wrote:He was also a very clever politician who know that he could not achieve his aims without at least some support of the Indian Muslims. So he did what needed to be done in his view
On 30 January 1948, a few months after India gained its independence from Great Britain, he awakened at Birla House in Delhi at an early hour, 3:00 a.m., to continue his work hammering out solutions to the problems that plagued his land. That morning, he labored on a draft of a new constitution for the Indian National Congress, stressing as usual his major concerns for his newly independent and strife-ridden nation: that villages be empowered, that discrimination based on the caste system be abolished, that religious intolerance and violence between Hindus and Muslims cease. Still distraught over the partitioning of his land into a Hindu India and Muslim Pakistan, he had weakened himself after independence through fasts and hunger strikes staged as satyagraha, .or “truth and firmness,” protests against the killings of Hindus and Muslims and the mistreatment of Pakistan. He weighed a mere 107 pounds that day
Balls-of-Titanium wrote:Yes, because I remember the echoes coming out of and againGujarat of pain and agony, of women getting ganged raped in front of their families, of men sliced into pieces by rampaging mobs, of the leader of the riot movement getting re-elected again
The Pakistani Army in Bangladesh committed horrendous atrocities of rape and torture particularly on Hindu women and perpetrated a genocide of millions of Hindus in 1971.They pierced the women with swords in their private parts.
manfred wrote:Before I forget, mono, you seem to frequently suggest that all things pagan are bad and must be avoided at all costs.
All pagans since time immemorial breathed air. So when are you ceasing this filthy pagan habit?
manfred wrote:Before Christianity, abortion was also commonplace, and the only know method of birth control, other than, of course, killing the baby. Afterwards, it was obviously still practiced, but less openly.
Rainbow it is obvious Gandhi was using another’s phraseology. However the Hindu concept of yugadharma was surely a powerful influence.
Garudaman wrote:4:36. Worship Allah and associate nothing with Him, and to parents do good, and to relatives, orphans, the needy, the near neighbor, the neighbor farther away, the companion at your side, the traveler, and those whom your right hands possess. Indeed, Allah does not like those who are self-deluding and boastful.
for theists, humanism usually is command of God! how about atheists? what's the point/purpose of humanism, for atheists?
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