QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Ah, now it makes sense. So you are saying flightless birds evolved from birds that once could fly.
Now, what do you think about evolution?
Now, what do you think about evolution?
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
evolution will not happen without a supportive environment! so, no supportive environment, no evolution!manfred wrote:Now, what do you think about evolution?

Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
So, does the environment "steer" evolution?
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
OK...
So is Allah not needed then? Did Allah create something? What?
So is Allah not needed then? Did Allah create something? What?
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
you mean, supportive environment is was not set/created by The Designer/Creator?manfred wrote:So is Allah not needed then?

everything is set/created by The Designer/Creator, or do you want to prove, that a supportive environment, is a result of evolution, of the environment that does not support? you mean, environment could evolve?manfred wrote:Did Allah create something? What?

Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Can you prove that, or is that something you believeyou mean, supportive environment is was not set/created by The Designer/Creator?
We have a lot of evidence that environments change. Look at your own country. Some islands have animals would would find in Asia. But other Islands, like Irian Jaya, have animals similar to Australia. Why? Indonesia was not always just islands.you mean, environment could evolve?
There are hundred of examples of environmental changes. So environments change, evolution causes animals to adapt to the changes.
We have plate tectonics, climate change, and even changes caused by living organisms themselves, to name a few.
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
because too much of a coincidence, so it is much more difficult to prove otherwise (I mean it does not really come from a what I believe)!manfred wrote:Can you prove that, or is that something you believe

what I mean is, if the environment it evolved like a living organism, which evolved to maintain its existence (not merely change without purpose)?manfred wrote:We have a lot of evidence that environments change. Look at your own country. Some islands have animals would would find in Asia. But other Islands, like Irian Jaya, have animals similar to Australia. Why? Indonesia was not always just islands.
There are hundred of examples of environmental changes. So environments change, evolution causes animals to adapt to the changes.
We have plate tectonics, climate change, and even changes caused by living organisms themselves, to name a few.

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you know, air not only have the characteristics that make a bird can fly, but also have characteristics that make the bird fly more efficiently :Jimi wrote:Wow that Video is cool. The Muslim response is a jump in logic. Thanks for the post
Spoiler! :
description about thermal soaring is simple matter, but description about dynamic soaring is rather difficult matter, without another cool video :
Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Guardman you are right it was god who created everything , hold everything in air.......... but it does not help you at all my friend, it does not prove Muhammad was a prophet? Muhammad was still fraud that you can not defend.Garudaman wrote:you know, air not only have the characteristics that make a bird can fly, but also have characteristics that make the bird fly more efficiently :Jimi wrote:Wow that Video is cool. The Muslim response is a jump in logic. Thanks for the postSpoiler! :
description about thermal soaring is simple matter, but description about dynamic soaring is rather difficult matter, without another cool video :
Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Hello iffo
In another thread, I asked Garudaman if he believed in the concept of indoctrination where beliefs are instilled into the mind. He said "Yes". I have now asked whether he accepts that he might have had a falsehood - Islam - instilled into his mind but I am still waiting for an answer. Yos avoided answering the question when asked.
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In another thread, I asked Garudaman if he believed in the concept of indoctrination where beliefs are instilled into the mind. He said "Yes". I have now asked whether he accepts that he might have had a falsehood - Islam - instilled into his mind but I am still waiting for an answer. Yos avoided answering the question when asked.
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
So Allah cannot make a bird fly simply by saying: "be!" ?Garudaman wrote: you know, air not only have the characteristics that make a bird can fly, but also have characteristics that make the bird fly more efficiently :
Allah first need to create air so that birds can fly?
Likewise, Allah cannot create some new characteristics or features in existing creatures unless He first change the environment?
So it is not Allah who create the 'new' creatures, it's the 'environment' as you said.
Which would piss off Allah because Allah hates anyone altering his creation.
4:119 And I will mislead them, and I will arouse in them [sinful] desires, and I will command them so they will slit the ears of cattle, and I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah ."
And of course to admit evolution, whether you claim it is due to the 'influence' of Allah's action on the enviroment, would also contradict this:Garudaman wrote:evolution will not happen without a supportive environment! so, no supportive environment, no evolution!
sura 30:30 So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
Quran miracle (16:69) : Bees eat ALL fruits
Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Hey piss
How are you, I hope you are doing better after you decided to circumcise yourself, welcome to the clean world, piss
Cheers
How are you, I hope you are doing better after you decided to circumcise yourself, welcome to the clean world, piss
Cheers
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I knew you missed me, Ahmed.AhmedBahgat wrote:Hey piss
How are you, I hope you are doing better after you decided to circumcise yourself, welcome to the clean world, piss
Cheers
how have you been?
By the way, which part of the quran said that you are to be circumcised in order to be clean?
and..which part of No change should there be in the creation of Allah that you failed to understand as a true muslim?
sura 30:30 So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. [Adhere to] the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created [all] people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
Quran miracle (16:69) : Bees eat ALL fruits
Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."
Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."
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piss
I am doing great, thank you for asking
Now you are stupid to ask me the same fukin question again which I have answered you 10 times before, so don't let me replay the tape
Anyway, glad you have finally circumcised yourself, now you can find a woman who may do, you know, for you, imagine before, bloody filth, and if she does, it means she is a fukin dirty whore
Cheers
I am doing great, thank you for asking
Now you are stupid to ask me the same fukin question again which I have answered you 10 times before, so don't let me replay the tape
Anyway, glad you have finally circumcised yourself, now you can find a woman who may do, you know, for you, imagine before, bloody filth, and if she does, it means she is a fukin dirty whore
Cheers
Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
more like you choked on giving a proper answer 10 times beforeAhmedBahgat wrote:piss
I am doing great, thank you for asking
Now you are stupid to ask me the same fukin question again which I have answered you 10 times before, so don't let me replay the tape
Anyway, glad you have finally circumcised yourself, now you can find a woman who may do, you know, for you, imagine before, bloody filth, and if she does, it means she is a fukin dirty whore
Cheers
this is no way to talk about your sister, ahmed
Quran miracle (16:69) : Bees eat ALL fruits
Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."
Quran miracle (27:18) : an ant SAID, "O ants, enter your dwellings that you not be crushed by Solomon and his soldiers while they perceive not."
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haha
good one, piss, but I was not talking about my sister, I was talking about your future and first girlfriend after spending all the previous years with males
Cheers
good one, piss, but I was not talking about my sister, I was talking about your future and first girlfriend after spending all the previous years with males
Cheers
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
We like to talk about your prophet whose mama spent nights with lots of guys.AhmedBahgat wrote:haha
good one, piss, but I was not talking about my sister, I was talking about your future and first girlfriend after spending all the previous years with males
Cheers
The prophet of Islam was nothing more than a common criminal.
Please tell me if this is accurate:
“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)
Please tell me if this is accurate:
“I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)
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Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Who the fuk are you, dickhead?ringmaster wrote:We like to talk about your prophet whose mama spent nights with lots of guys.AhmedBahgat wrote:haha
good one, piss, but I was not talking about my sister, I was talking about your future and first girlfriend after spending all the previous years with males
Cheers
I didn't talk to you, kid, therefore, fuk off
Re: QS. 16:79 ; Birds Can Fly, Really Because Evolution?
Well well well look who is here, buddy Ahmed Bahgat, buddy hope you doing good. Where you been?
Bahgat I left Islam and I sincerely suggest you to do the same.
Bahgat I left Islam and I sincerely suggest you to do the same.