marduk wrote:This guy seems to have read some hadith about this.
written by Mirza Ghalib , February 17, 2011 The various biographies of Muhammad, what we heard from the victorious muhammadan’s are full of Taqiyya and confusing. But if one can READ the AHADITH (Specially the SAHIH AL-BUKHARI, which the muslim considered very authentic, next to the Quran) page by page, it is crystal clear that out of two camps ( Ayisha’s camp & Ali’s camp) to succeed Muhammad, Ayisha’s camp was the best in plotting and achieved their targets easily. After reading these ahadith one can come to an easy conclusion that Muhammad was murdered by Aisha and her gang, simply just to grab his throne, (for the same reason Muhammad killed thousands of innocents). Tit for tat. One of such ahadith which brother BALAM had revealed about Aisha’s statement that “It is her ignorance…………..which killed Muhammad”. Similar to the above hadith, here are few more hadiths out of several, which requires the reader’s attention. Aisha, (Ummul momineen/mother of believers) explains about the last few minutes of Muhammad:- 1/ Muhammad’s head was in-between her bosom . 2/ Her saliva was in Muhammad’s mouth. 3/ The refusal of pen and paper by Umar, Ayisha and her gang to Muhammad to write the name of his successor (Probably, Ali – his son-in-law). 4/ Muhammad doubted and got wild about the medicine(Probably the poison), which they(Aisha’s gang) put in his mouth without his consent by force. THE BEST AND THE ONLY WAY TO COMEOUT FROM ISLAM IS TO STUDY THEIR OWN AUTHENTIC BOOKS:- THE QURAAN AND AHADITH.
I don't have time for that, Ghaith, who actually has a non-offensive avatar now. I just posted that as food for thought. Take it for what it's worth. Nobody knows what actually happened but it seems odd that Muhammad was healthy all of his life up to that time and then suddenly had fever and drooling and then died, something like this;
The Rosary Pea, also often planted as a decorative addition to gardens, is actually one of the world’s most dangerous plants, The bright red berries hold seeds, which all contain a lectin poison called abrin, so toxic that, if swallowed or chewed will result in almost immediate death. One of the most lethal known poisons, Abrin causes severe vomiting, high fever, drooling, highly elevated levels of nervous tension, liver failure, bladder failure, bleeding from the eyes and convulsive seizures. This decorative plant is truly deadly. http://green-buzz.net/environment/nine- ... or-humans/
Symptoms are identical to those of ricin, except abrin is more toxic by almost two orders of magnitude; the fatal dose of abrin is approximately 75 times smaller than the fatal dose of ricin. Abrin can kill with a circulating amount of less than 3 micrograms.[citation needed]Abrin has an estimated human fatal dose of 0.1-1 ug/kg. Ingesting the intact seeds typically results in no clinical findings, as they pass through the gastrointestinal tract due to their hard shell.
That's how Aisha killed Muhammad. It seems that it took a couple weeks for Muhammad to die so I guess Aisha gave him very small amounts of poison to make it look like a disease. He couldn't have had a virus or bacterial disease because Aisha was kissing him and would also have been infected.
I suppose it's possible that he had Typhus, but there was no report of a rash or coughing. Looks like poisoning to me.
Symptoms of murine or endemic typhus may include:
Abdominal pain Backache Diarrhea Dull red rash that begins on the middle of the body and spreads Extremely high fever (105 - 106 degrees Fahrenheit), which may last up to 2 weeks Hacking, dry cough Headache Joint and muscle pain Nausea Vomiting
marduk wrote:I don't have time for that, Ghaith, who actually has a non-offensive avatar now. I just posted that as food for thought. Take it for what it's worth. Nobody knows what actually happened but it seems odd that Muhammad was healthy all of his life up to that time and then suddenly had fever and drooling and then died, something like this;
The Rosary Pea, also often planted as a decorative addition to gardens, is actually one of the world’s most dangerous plants, The bright red berries hold seeds, which all contain a lectin poison called abrin, so toxic that, if swallowed or chewed will result in almost immediate death. One of the most lethal known poisons, Abrin causes severe vomiting, high fever, drooling, highly elevated levels of nervous tension, liver failure, bladder failure, bleeding from the eyes and convulsive seizures. This decorative plant is truly deadly. http://green-buzz.net/environment/nine- ... or-humans/
Symptoms are identical to those of ricin, except abrin is more toxic by almost two orders of magnitude; the fatal dose of abrin is approximately 75 times smaller than the fatal dose of ricin. Abrin can kill with a circulating amount of less than 3 micrograms.[citation needed]Abrin has an estimated human fatal dose of 0.1-1 ug/kg. Ingesting the intact seeds typically results in no clinical findings, as they pass through the gastrointestinal tract due to their hard shell.
That's how Aisha killed Muhammad. It seems that it took a couple weeks for Muhammad to die so I guess Aisha gave him very small amounts of poison to make it look like a disease. He couldn't have had a virus or bacterial disease because Aisha was kissing him and would also have been infected.
I suppose it's possible that he had Typhus, but there was no report of a rash or coughing. Looks like poisoning to me.
Symptoms of murine or endemic typhus may include:
Abdominal pain Backache Diarrhea Dull red rash that begins on the middle of the body and spreads Extremely high fever (105 - 106 degrees Fahrenheit), which may last up to 2 weeks Hacking, dry cough Headache Joint and muscle pain Nausea Vomiting
If Aisha did kill Muhammad, there's no reason why she'd allow it to be recorded. Muhammad might have taken glory in allowing his barbaric exploits to be known and later recorded, Aisha had no intention of losing her name
لا إله إلا سبب واللطف هو صاحب الرسول There's no God but Reason and humaneness is His prophet
Nazzim ibn Abu Talib wrote:If Aisha did kill Muhammad, there's no reason why she'd allow it to be recorded. Muhammad might have taken glory in allowing his barbaric exploits to be known and later recorded, Aisha had no intention of losing her name
So you are assuming she killed him even if there isnt slightest evidence she did ?
Nazzim ibn Abu Talib wrote:If Aisha did kill Muhammad, there's no reason why she'd allow it to be recorded. Muhammad might have taken glory in allowing his barbaric exploits to be known and later recorded, Aisha had no intention of losing her name
So you are assuming she killed him even if there isnt slightest evidence she did ?
I said if. I'm not concerned how Muhammad died. I was just forwarding a point. Aisha was from Muhammad's family. How'd an outsider know if Mo was poisoned or not if she slow poisoned him. There have been cases of such slow poisonings in history and no one suspected. It was only by medical examination later that proved the person was poisoned. I believe a team recently took some remains of Napoleon to prove what poisoning killed him.
لا إله إلا سبب واللطف هو صاحب الرسول There's no God but Reason and humaneness is His prophet
I can say the same to Ghaith. Show me the evidence that he died from a natural disease. What disease matches the symptoms described in Muslim records? He had a headache, high fever and weakness for 2 weeks and then died. There was no vomiting reported, no rash, nothing but what I just stated. I admit that I don't know what poison would produce those exact symptoms but I also don't know what disease would do that either. It was apparently not contagious. It's a mystery isn't it. Solve the case of Muhammad's cause of death.
marduk wrote:I can say the same to Ghaith. Show me the evidence that he died from a natural disease. What disease matches the symptoms described in Muslim records? He had a headache, high fever and weakness for 2 weeks and then died. There was no vomiting reported, no rash, nothing but what I just stated. I admit that I don't know what poison would produce those exact symptoms but I also don't know what disease would do that either. It was apparently not contagious. It's a mystery isn't it. Solve the case of Muhammad's cause of death.
Muhammad died of high fever, it was a normal dead back then.
In the early days, high fever resulting in death was very common. Nowadays are different.
Of course there was no evidence of Aisha killing Mo - she was innocent, it was an accident. True, she plotted against her rapist, and no wonder, but in the end she was either terrified of the risk, or repented. Either way, she needed to get rid of the evidence so she fed it to a sheep. This was then accidentally fed to Mo, with fatal consequences. Aisha remembered this means of disposal when she wanted to get rid of the sura on stoning, and fed it to her goat.
All I know is that the story is that Allah asked Muhammad if he wanted to die and he said "yes, but not in battle as a martyr but from fever, which I already told everybody is a breeze from hell". Allah replied "one fever, coming up".
The "Christian Prince" has a good take on this. Mohammed is said to have died from a painful aorita from poison. Mohammed said before this is the way Allah would kill him IF he was lying. There are also many verse that say Allah would protect Mohammed (allahs prayers on both) from stuff like this.
What justice, Mohammed dies from the punishment Allah gives to people who lie about him.
This Christian prince guy is great. Like I have said before the Muslims can't even answer him he makes them look like fools.
He's very good at exposing the silliness of Islam. That was a good one. Muhammad was so dumb that he would make Allah use the same expressions that he did. Then later he would inadvertently say the exact same thing in normal conversation. It's like when he had Allah say that he was going to use the same obscure punishment for unbelievers as he said Pharaoh used, cutting off hands and feet on opposite sides. Allah talks just like a common Arab of the 7th century. Weird. You will never find mention of that exact punishment anywhere in history other than in the Quran, in which Allah and Pharaoh seem to have much in common.
Firesnake1 wrote:perhaps killing each other is the art of islam? the beauty lies within islam is how many people you have killed to please allah.
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