Muhammad's Fever

[marduk]

Muhammad is said to have died from a fever. Rather odd in spite of this comment he made earlier.



History of Makkah
By Safiur Rahman Mubarakpur
Google Books

How fitting that Muhammad would die from a "breeze from hell", and that Zamzam water couldn't cure it. He was in Medina at the time so I guess maybe that's why he had no Zamzam water. Allah willed it to be that way. He waited for Muhammad to be far from the Zamzam water and then he let Satan send a breeze from hell to him.

[Nazzim ibn Abu Talib]

Muhammad is said to have died from a fever. Rather odd in spite of this comment he made earlier.



History of Makkah
By Safiur Rahman Mubarakpur
Google Books

How fitting that Muhammad would die from a "breeze from hell", and that Zamzam water couldn't cure it. He was in Medina at the time so I guess maybe that's why he had no Zamzam water. Allah willed it to be that way. He waited for Muhammad to be far from the Zamzam water and then he let Satan send a breeze from hell to him.

Barelvis attest that Muhammad never died, he just left his physical form.

[manfred]

There is a good case for Mohammed having been poisoned by Aisha...:

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?op ... iew&id=660
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/112- ... art-2.html

There are also Muslim scholars who say exactly that...: This one is a bit pedestrian, but bear with him, he explains it all very well and extremely carefully. He opens in Arabic, but if you wait, he will speak English.

[marduk]

Good video, I watched that before. It seems like a valid theory. Whether he died of poison by his wives or a breeze from hell, they both prove he was not a prophet.

[Firesnake1]

the prophet also a human too. He can be sick, died, sad, happy too. But sure in some part Allah SWT helped him with the power if 32men in him. was that the power to have sex? I wonder..

[Nazzim ibn Abu Talib]

:turban: the prophet also a human too. He can be sick, died, sad, happy too. But sure in some part Allah SWT helped him with the power if 32men in him. was that the power to have sex? I wonder..

Allah SWT? Are you a misinformed muslim or someone posing as a Muslim?

[manfred]

SWT means South West Train in the UK... maybe firesnake means to say Allah works as a conductor or train driver? As he does not have a UK national insurance number, he won't be getting a pension, despite his age. Maybe that is why he got himself a little job...

[Firesnake1]

:turban: the prophet also a human too. He can be sick, died, sad, happy too. But sure in some part Allah SWT helped him with the power if 32men in him. was that the power to have sex? I wonder..

Allah SWT? Are you a misinformed muslim or someone posing as a Muslim?

why? you have problem in understanding SAW? havent you learned Islam here?

[pr126]

This Saw?

[Chiclets]

:turban: the prophet also a human too. He can be sick, died, sad, happy too. But sure in some part Allah SWT helped him with the power if 32men in him. was that the power to have sex? I wonder..

Allah SWT? Are you a misinformed muslim or someone posing as a Muslim?

why? you have problem in understanding SAW? havent you learned Islam here?

Welcome back Firesnake, good to see you after a long time.

[Firesnake1]

*typo I was meant SWT thats for almighty Allah..SAW is for Muhammad.

Good to see you again Chiclets. I always forgot password whenever I stopped visiting FFI for a long time.

[Ghaith]

There is a good case for Mohammed having been poisoned by Aisha...:

http://www.islam-watch.org/index.php?op ... iew&id=660
http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/112- ... art-2.html

There are also Muslim scholars who say exactly that...: This one is a bit pedestrian, but bear with him, he explains it all very well and extremely carefully. He opens in Arabic, but if you wait, he will speak English.

You forgot to mention the part that he was a Shia.

Allah SWT? Are you a misinformed muslim or someone posing as a Muslim?

Subhanna wa Tahala.

[manfred]

You forgot to mention the part that he was a Shia.

Well that should be obvious from the way he dresses for a start, and he says so, several times.

Do Shia Muslims not have a right to say what they think? He made a case, carefully, and with a great deal of evidence. Not a single thing he says lacks back-up from hadith or other sources. I find his explanation quite plausible. I wish all our Muslims would write like that here on this forum.

The conventional idea that Mohammed died from poisoning administered by a Jewish woman after the battle of Khybar is not really likely, simply because there are several years of apparent good health that passed after that incidence and his death. There are no poisons that work like that.

He mentions that Abu Bakr and Umar plotted to kill Mohammed before, and he produced some evidence for that. He mentions that Mohammed wanted Ali to succeed him, so it makes sense for these two to use their daughters to spoil the succession plan. There is even an hadith saying that Aisha and Hafsa put something into Mohammed's mouth while he was sleeping. When he discovered this he asked that all those present should take the same substance. He died before his command was obeyed.

Aysha's first action after leaving the dead Mohammed was to plead innocence of his death. Isn't that a bit odd? We also know from a number of other hadiths that she was quite angry, open to mischief at times (the honey/bad breath thing for example), that there was a rumour of her having an affair with a younger man, and that she was mocking Mohammed. We can only imagine what kind of life it is to be married as a child to a man old enough to be her grandfather. I don't think it would take much to persuade an abused girl to take steps to be rid of her abuser. So she had motive and opportunity, and we have even evidence that she did things that could possibly be harmful to Mohammed. In short, his story makes a lot more sense than others I have heard.

Well history is often coloured by the victors. Abu Bakr and Umar got what they wanted and Ali did not. So the Sunni/Shia divide was born. Interestingly, Sunnis don't like talking much about the circumstances around Mohammed's death.

So, Ghaith, forget about you prejudice against Shia for a minute, and listen to him. If you find anything seriously wrong with what he says, point it out. That is the whole point of having a forum. To check, discuss and evaluate.

The fact that he is a Shia in itself does not mean he does not deserve to be heard even. All his sources are displayed on the screen as he mentions them, so it is easy to check.

So, go on, Ghaith, have a look at it, and tell us what you make of it. Maybe you have a better version.

[Ghaith]

He mentions that Abu Bakr and Umar plotted to kill Mohammed before,

'Again Manfred you forgot to mention he is a SHIA, a RAFIDA. Shias HATE Aisha (ra) Abu Bakr (ra) and Omar (ra). They celebrate Omars death. This people dont have autentic hadith as their most trusted book Kitab al Kafi is only 25% authentic. Even less. When an Shia imam says something they accept it as a fact. They belive Imams cant make mistakes.

Mohammed wanted Ali to succeed him

No Muhammad didnt this are SHIA sources. Lying for these guy is allowed according to their laws (Taqiyya).

so it makes sense for these two to use their daughters to spoil the succession plan

No Manfred it makes no sence.

There is even an hadith saying that Aisha and Hafsa put something into Mohammed's mouth while he was sleeping.

Ok give me the refrence Manfred.

that there was a rumour of her having an affair with a younger man

This was a paranoid rumor because a young man escorted her to Medina.

married as a child to a man old enough to be her grandfathe

She could have divorced him if she liked when there where rumors going around. She still went on defending Muhammad years after his death.


You are pathetic Manfred mixing Shia with Sunni sources.

[Nazzim ibn Abu Talib]

Allah SWT? Are you a misinformed muslim or someone posing as a Musli

Subhanna wa Tahala.[/quote]

Ah right, right. I had never seen that acronym, mistook it for SAW.

[Firesnake1]

Oh hell. Shiah isnt islam, Manfred!! Sunni is.. Says who? Says Sunni wkwkwkwk now thats very funny.

[Ghaith]

Oh hell. Shiah isnt islam, Manfred!! Sunni is.. Says who? Says Sunni wkwkwkwk now thats very funny.

What gave you the idea that Shia's are not muslims
Shias are just muslims who commit shirk.

[marduk]

This guy seems to have read some hadith about this.

written by Mirza Ghalib , February 17, 2011
The various biographies of Muhammad, what we heard from the victorious muhammadan’s are full of Taqiyya and confusing. But if one can READ the AHADITH (Specially the SAHIH AL-BUKHARI, which the muslim considered very authentic, next to the Quran) page by page, it is crystal clear that out of two camps ( Ayisha’s camp & Ali’s camp) to succeed Muhammad, Ayisha’s camp was the best in plotting and achieved their targets easily.
After reading these ahadith one can come to an easy conclusion that Muhammad was murdered by Aisha and her gang, simply just to grab his throne, (for the same reason Muhammad killed thousands of innocents). Tit for tat.
One of such ahadith which brother BALAM had revealed about Aisha’s statement that “It is her ignorance…………..which killed Muhammad”.
Similar to the above hadith, here are few more hadiths out of several, which requires the reader’s attention. Aisha, (Ummul momineen/mother of believers) explains about the last few minutes of Muhammad:-
1/ Muhammad’s head was in-between her bosom .
2/ Her saliva was in Muhammad’s mouth.
3/ The refusal of pen and paper by Umar, Ayisha and her gang to Muhammad to write the name of his successor (Probably, Ali – his son-in-law).
4/ Muhammad doubted and got wild about the medicine(Probably the poison), which they(Aisha’s gang) put in his mouth without his consent by force.
THE BEST AND THE ONLY WAY TO COMEOUT FROM ISLAM IS TO STUDY THEIR OWN AUTHENTIC BOOKS:- THE QURAAN AND AHADITH.

http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/112- ... man-1.html

Why did Aisha refuse to give Muhammad a pen? Not that he could have written anything being illiterate but still he could have drawn a picture of Ali.

[Firesnake1]

a muslim who commit shirk still can be called a muslim? then why do your fellow sunni kill them?

[Ghaith]

This guy seems to have read some hadith about this.

written by Mirza Ghalib , February 17, 2011
The various biographies of Muhammad, what we heard from the victorious muhammadan’s are full of Taqiyya and confusing. But if one can READ the AHADITH (Specially the SAHIH AL-BUKHARI, which the muslim considered very authentic, next to the Quran) page by page, it is crystal clear that out of two camps ( Ayisha’s camp & Ali’s camp) to succeed Muhammad, Ayisha’s camp was the best in plotting and achieved their targets easily.
After reading these ahadith one can come to an easy conclusion that Muhammad was murdered by Aisha and her gang, simply just to grab his throne, (for the same reason Muhammad killed thousands of innocents). Tit for tat.
One of such ahadith which brother BALAM had revealed about Aisha’s statement that “It is her ignorance…………..which killed Muhammad”.
Similar to the above hadith, here are few more hadiths out of several, which requires the reader’s attention. Aisha, (Ummul momineen/mother of believers) explains about the last few minutes of Muhammad:-
1/ Muhammad’s head was in-between her bosom .
2/ Her saliva was in Muhammad’s mouth.
3/ The refusal of pen and paper by Umar, Ayisha and her gang to Muhammad to write the name of his successor (Probably, Ali – his son-in-law).
4/ Muhammad doubted and got wild about the medicine(Probably the poison), which they(Aisha’s gang) put in his mouth without his consent by force.
THE BEST AND THE ONLY WAY TO COMEOUT FROM ISLAM IS TO STUDY THEIR OWN AUTHENTIC BOOKS:- THE QURAAN AND AHADITH.

http://www.islam-watch.org/authors/112- ... man-1.html

Why did Aisha refuse to give Muhammad a pen? Not that he could have written anything being illiterate but still he could have drawn a picture of Ali.

Please post the references Marduk and set the puzzle dont just copy/paste islam-watch.