Connedbymo+co wrote:Eagle wrote:
The verse 50:6, like 67:3-4, directs our eyes to a specific region of the sky; that of the stars where it precisely says that the cosmic bodies literally swim/yasbahun. This dismisses your theory of a solid sky on the spot. Go there viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12725&start=320#p183627" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; for further education. Al-sama' means "what is above", these verses ask the audience and readers to look at all that is above and notice the coherence. There is no break in that coherence because of the regularity and uniformity of the laws working in
the universe "Who created the seven heavens one above another; you see no incongruity in the creation of the Beneficent Allah; then look again, can you see any disorder?" These verses come in the context of providing proof for divine justice because just as One Being subjected this world to coherent laws without any sudden break in uniformity, He will subject the hereafter to the same principle of coherence especially in regards to the just reward of good and evil.
This is waffling at its best!
You claimed they sky/canopy was referring to the atmosphere, yet I showed you this cannot be the case as the author of the claims they are already aware the sky is a cannopy.
So you then admit they could not of known about the amosphere, so obviously this can't be what the koran is describing.
Arabs believed the sky was a solid canopy and the Koran says the same thing and tells them it's a sign.
They also thought it was a perfect structure without cracks and guess what.......this is how it's described in the Koran.
This is so obvious and simple to follow.
What are you dishonest or stupid? I think we both know the answer to that one!
It was an observable fact for people in the 7th century that the sky was a solid canopy withouth any cracks.Eagle wrote:
No we dont agree and the point keeps sailing over your simple head so here it is again for you to ponder upon:
21:32 is a sign for them in that it shelters life on earth, a fact observable to all humans, just like the earth being called a "couch" is a sign one can verify by seeing how it has been made hospitable for life.
The Koran being a 7th century book says the same thing and claims this is a sign to them!
Therefore it has confirmed their erroneous understanding completely.
Thats as simple as it gets. I'm sure this point isn't sailing over your head but rather self deception is preventing this fact being processed in your brain.
Good day to you and I hope you will see facts for what they when it comes to the Koran.Eagle wrote: Good luck and have a nice day
However, good luck alone won't be enough for you to free yourself from this mental salvery.
In order to do so you will probably need to read this as fear is your problem:
Fear is what keeps Islam going, if you can eliminate fear Islam has nothing to stand on. Unless you fear Allah and hell you can't actually be a muslim.
This fear prevents a muslim from critical thinking when it come to Islam. Which is why most muslims are trapped for life.
The following is an explanation for this from a evolutionary point of view:
The evolutionary primacy of the brain's fear circuitry makes it more powerful than the brain's reasoning faculties. The amygdala sprouts a profusion of connections to higher brain regions—neurons that carry one-way traffic from amygdala to neocortex. Few connections run from the cortex to the amygdala, however. That allows the amygdala to override the products of the logical, thoughtful cortex, but not vice versa. So although it is sometimes possible to think yourself out of fear ("I know that dark shape in the alley is just a trash can"), it takes great effort and persistence. Instead, fear tends to overrule reason, as the amygdala hobbles our logic and reasoning circuits. That makes fear "far, far more powerful than reason," says neurobiologist Michael Fanselow of the University of California, Los Angeles.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... -fear.html
Verses 50:6,67:3-4 direct our eyes to the region where cosmic bodies yasbahun/swim. It cannot be speaking of a solid entity we are to inspect for cracks. Reality was depicted to you in elementary terms there viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12725&p=184096&sid ... d9#p184077" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, i cannot reword it with more simplicity than it already was.
Keep searching for the truth with sincerity and have a nice day