Jimi wrote:I just watched this movie. It is a horrible story. This women was stoned in Iran. It happens regularly. Of course this is an unspeakable act in most of the world. It is. Ot even talked about. But if you believe in allah, the prophet Mohammed, and the last day, stoning is an acceptable form of punishment for moral crimes. It is done to prevent moral crimes. Obviously if stoning is the punishment, few would even attempted the crime. This is the logic anyway.
Some of us wonder why a all powerful loving god needs his creations to carry out such a punishment. Is this not between god and the person? This movie is worth a watch, but it will not make you feel very good. What a crime against humanity.
Well, its not more of a Shia thing.
its just that the Sunni's tend to agree it is abrogated.
KD75018 wrote:No Ringmaster, I don't.
So, What is a "muttah", please ?
July 25, 2010 update: Misyar is coming under criticism from Saudi lawyers and Shari'a experts as its human costs become apparent. From the Arab News:
A typical tourist marriage usually lasts for fixed periods of time (sometimes ranging a few days) and is aimed at gaining sensual pleasures and not procreating. Marriage officials often carry out these marriages with two witnesses. The officials are, however, often unaware of the fixed time periods that the couples fix between them, a clause that would, according to the four schools of Islamic jurisprudence, render the marriage illegal.
The newspaper gives the example of Abu Fadi, 45, who traveled often to Southeast Asia to recruit housemaids.
It was during one of these travels that he married a woman for a short term "to avoid committing adultery." "We had memorable moments together, especially since I thought my marriage was legal Shariah-wise. I, however, regretted the decision because my ex-wife sent an e-mail with photographs from the marriage to my Saudi wife," he said. "It was a terrible experience. My wife, however, forgave me after I expressed sorrow and regret on condition I would allow her to accompany me abroad, regardless of whether it is for business, education or leisure."
The article goes on to quote various Saudi authorities about the illegality and immorality of misyar marriages.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/06/misyar-temporary-marriage-in-sunni-islam
Ozes wrote:........................................In the following verses it is used, verses on marriage not mentioned here use zawaq.
Surah 24:3
Surah 2:27
Surrah 24:32
Surah 24:33
Surah 2:60
Surah 24:127
Surah 33: 53
Surah 2:235
Surah 2:237
Surah 4: 3
Surah 2:220
Surah 2: 221
Surah 24: 3
Surah 33: 53
Surah 4:6
Surah 4:22
Surah 4:25
Surah 4: 127
Surah 33:49
Surah 33:50
manfred wrote:......................
Shias practice it, Sunni on the whole don't. as they assume this practice to have been abrogated.
So... that's why I said is more of a shiah thing...
ringmaster wrote:manfred wrote:......................
Shias practice it, Sunni on the whole don't. as they assume this practice to have been abrogated.
So... that's why I said is more of a shiah thing...
Sunnis and shias disagree on lots of things, which is why they like to kill each other with such abandon.
EssEmmEss wrote:................
So true.
The concept of "Mutah" disgusts me.
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