Top 5 Errors in Koran

[peterpin]

There is another issue in that text..

He was created from a fluid, ejected

Is THAT ALL?

This "fluid" is sufficient in itself to create another human being?

Isn't there something missing?

[Fernando]

There is another issue in that text..

He was created from a fluid, ejected

Is THAT ALL?

This "fluid" is sufficient in itself to create another human being?

Isn't there something missing?

I await the defense of the wrigglers with interest! I don't think they can quotemine Aristotle on this one, either.

[ringmaster]

There is another issue in that text..

He was created from a fluid, ejected

Is THAT ALL?

This "fluid" is sufficient in itself to create another human being?

Isn't there something missing?

20 years ago, I had a vasectomy, and I do not recall the surgeon cutting any cords between the backbone and the ribs.

But the fluid still ejects. So according to Ghaith, and according to bitchboy allah, I still should be able to help procreate.

[iffo]

Read what i wrote

sperm from the testicles passes through the ejaculatory ducts and mixes with fluids from the seminal vesicles, the prostate, and the bulbourethral glands to form the semen.

hehehe hohoho

what you wrote is true, but quran is talking about fluid that creates human life. And just fluid with out sperm does not create life.

Sahih International 86:6
He was created from a fluid, ejected,

Sahih International 86:7
Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.

So sperm has to be part of the fluid, the fluid quran is talking about. And sperms are not produced under stomach but in testicles. See how little buddy is trapped now.

Where does semen come from (after sperm has been mixed to it) iffo?

Do you know that?

sperm and other fluid mix at vas deference, does this area look to you any where between lions and ribs?

[pr126]

Remember what Ghaith wrote on the first page?

If you are able to find 1 error in the Quran i will leave Islam.

I am watching him tap dancing on hot coals, playing word games. He cannot win.
Quite amusing.

[Fernando]

Remember what Ghaith wrote on the first page?

If you are able to find 1 error in the Quran i will leave Islam.

I am watching him tap dancing on hot coals, playing word games. He cannot win.
Quite amusing.

And that's only error number one. Mind you, they've spent 1400 years trying to convince themselves that their book is the infallible and perfect effluence of an omnipotent being, permanently incorruptible and valid for answering all questions and ruling mankind forever. So they're bound to get a bit itsy when it's shown up to be an incompetent human shambles which can't even be explained properly despite all that effort.

[sum]

Hello Ghaith

You know very well that the account in the Koran is a complete mess and in no way gives anywhere near a clear explanation - in fact it leaves one none the wiser.

You have not yet told me if you could have written a clearer, accurate and unambiguous account than that in the Koran. You know that you could and very easily as well. Please confirm that you could have done better than what is in the Koran.

sum

[ringmaster]

Hello Ghaith

You know very well that the account in the Koran is a complete mess and in no way gives anywhere near a clear explanation - in fact it leaves one none the wiser.

You have not yet told me if you could have written a clearer, accurate and unambiguous account than that in the Koran. You know that you could and very easily as well. Please confirm that you could have done better than what is in the Koran.

sum

Ghaith just cannot come to terms with the fact that he is more intelligent than his whoremaster moron bitchboy allah guy. Like I have told him before, he should not sell himself short.

[Ghaith]

We are still debating 1 theory out of many on 86:7 and you are thinking i have lost aready ??????++ Now that wishfull thinking

Read what i wrote

sperm from the testicles passes through the ejaculatory ducts and mixes with fluids from the seminal vesicles, the prostate, and the bulbourethral glands to form the semen.

hehehe hohoho

what you wrote is true, but quran is talking about fluid that creates human life. And just fluid with out sperm does not create life.

Sahih International 86:6
He was created from a fluid, ejected,

Sahih International 86:7
Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.

So sperm has to be part of the fluid, the fluid quran is talking about. And sperms are not produced under stomach but in testicles. See how little buddy is trapped now.

Where does semen come from (after sperm has been mixed to it) iffo?

Do you know that?

sperm and other fluid mix at vas deference, does this area look to you any where between lions and ribs?

[/quote]

Mater infact it does look that it between the Loins and Backbone.

Loins reaches the above part of the penis.
That way under the vas deferens and prostate gland.

If we look at 4:23 we se that loins is used in a strange way.

Perhaps Sulb is neither backbone nor loins.

infact we dont even know if taraib really is. We will look into hadiths later.

Andas of those who say sperm is important.

The sperm is allready included in the fluid.

[Jimi]

Verse 86:7
يخرج من بين الصلب والترائب

Transliteration: Yakhruju min bayni alssulbi waalttara-ibi
Literal: It emerges/appears from between the spine and the rib bones.[2]
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 86:7

Various Translations:
Yusuf Ali: proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs.
Pickthal: that issued from between the loins and ribs.
Arberry: issuing between the loins and the breast-bones.
Shakir: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Sarwar: which comes out of the loins and ribs.
Khalifa: from between the spine and the viscera.
Hilali/Khan: proceeding from between the back-bone and the ribs.
Malik: that is produced from between the loins and the ribs.
QXP: that issued from between tough rocks and mingled dust.
Maulana Ali: coming from between the back and the ribs.
Free Minds: it comes out from between the spine and the testicle

This is clearly a mistake in Koran

Show me where it says sperm?

Why don't you tell me what they are talking about

[iffo]

Ghaith
Perhaps Sulb is neither backbone nor loins.

hahahahhahah

I am glad you said it yourself. This is the beauty of this dumb book that nobody knows what the heck your god is talking about for last 1400 years, and he had the guts to say.

A book whose revelatory statements (ayat) have been firmly formulated
(uhkimat) and then explained (fussilat) by One wise and informed (11:1).

A Book whereof the Verses are explained in detail; A Qur'an in Arabic for people who know S. 41:3 Hilali-Khan

Alif Lam Ra. A Book whose verses are set clear, and then distinguished, from One All-wise, All-aware: S. 11:1

Is he out of his mind, or playing games with us?

remember what I been saying all along, you will go to ditch either way. So the time has come for the ditch. You have admitted this is a useless stupid unclear book yourself by saying

Ghaith
Perhaps Sulb is neither backbone nor loins.

Your god used the word slub which means hardening. Which is dumb word to use. And scholars that's why call it backbone.
Another blow to you buddy "vas deference" is not between lions and ribs. You know what lions is?, here it is

In human anatomy the term "loin" or "loins" refers to the side of the human body below the rib cage to just above the pelvis

vas deference is not on the side but on front.

Buddy its all over.

Ghaith
If you are able to find 1 error in the Quran i will leave Islam.

Remember your promise.............Wish you luck in your life with out Islam

[peterpin]

Ghaith,

now as we seem to agree that the verse with the backbone/loins/something else makes no sense at all, perhaps we should also pay some attention the the preceding part?

He was created from a fluid, ejected

"gushing water" is says, litterally.

Is semem ALL that is needed to ceate an new human being?

Or maybe it does not mean semen?

Mohammed was asked according to sahih hadith, why some kid resemble their dads more, and some more their mothers. He gave a most curious answer, and I am sure you know that one...

The quran seems to be strangely quiet about the role of the woman in the ceation of a new human being... Is a woman a mere incubator?

If the "gushing water" is an ejaculation, why does not every ejaculation result in a pregnany? Why do the passive partners of gay sex not get pregnant?

Isn't it obvious that the quran left something out, something quite important?

[paxi christi]

peter

If the "gushing water" is an ejaculation, why does not every ejaculation result in a pregnany? Why do the passive partners of gay sex not get pregnant?

Isn't it obvious that the quran left something out, something quite important?

this is easy peter,any moslem will tel you the answer to this...........

they are not gushing over a cabbage leaf ?

mohamed/allah forgot to mention the cabbage leaf.

[peterpin]

paxi, clarity at last!!
So babies are grown on cabbage patches, and then collected by storks to take to their moms...

In order to grow, they need to get, ehm, watered...

Now, suppose a man "waters" a particular cabbage leaf,and then, later, a little goat comes along and "waters" it again, do we get a baby goat or a baby person? Or something inbetween?

Maybe we have worked out where Satyrs come from?

[ringmaster]

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Andas of those who say sperm is important.

The sperm is allready included in the fluid.

You miss the entire point Ghaith. First of all, the koran says nothing about sperm. It says that it is the fluid that is the reproductive agent. Secondly, your geometry is pure invention.

So........according to your koran, a man like me who has had a vasectomy, and from whom the fluid still gushes forth, should be able to impregnate a woman.

Accept it Ghaith. Like I have told you. You are smarter than your moron bitchboy allah guy. You yourself could give a much clearer explanation to the whole process than your blithering idiot allah does in the koran.

[Fernando]

Maybe we have worked out where Satyrs come from?

And buraqs!

[Fernando]

If we look at 4:23 we se that loins is used in a strange way.

Strange? In "clear, perfect, explained Arabic"? Naughty Allah!

[peterpin]

I think Ghaith is upset, he has stopped talking to us...

Don't shoot the messenger, Ghaith, we didn't write it...

[iffo]

@Ghaith

Where did you disappear Ghaith. Floating in the sea of disappointment, frustration and despair little buddy.
Its ok, I understand your position, I been through that myself. Disappointment is better than been fooled all your life my friend .........

[kaimana1]

Ghaith just a friendly reminder-

my arm is still extended out for you.