All Muhammad`s deeds were condoned by Allah.

[Ghaith]

Oh I see, your parents moved to Spain (or their ancestors) to get away from the evil Caliphs and you got stuck there. Now you must attempt to "escape from Unbelieverland", which would make a good Islamic movie. Yes, Mecca is the place for you. Never mind the fact that you can only have a decent life there if you happen to be a member of the royal family. You will be very happy being one of their subjects. They will tell you to jump and then you will ask how high?

[iffo]

You should be very careful driving in Saudia Ghaith. if some Saudi hits your car, first thing cops will do will blame you for hitting saudi guy and will take your thawb (pants) off.

[ringmaster]

What gave you the idea i dont want to live in Mecca? I cannot afford to live in Mecca. If i was independent and had a international Job i would have choosen Mecca. Sadly im just a 18 year old student Will se what the future brings.

You cannot afford to live in Mecca? Que hijo de puta tan miserable es tu allah guy!!

So it must be allah's will that you are an apostate.

By the way, that invitation to share a good bottle of Merlot still stands. You are sure to like it. People who drink wine and eat pork live longer and healthier lives. The statistics on that are clear. The numbers don't lie.

Don't listen to your allah guy on that subject. He is a liar. Even the koran says that.

Ala es un pendejo.

[Ghaith]

You should be very careful driving in Saudia Ghaith. if some Saudi hits your car, first thing cops will do will blame you for hitting saudi guy and will take your thawb (pants) off.

Not if i become an Diplomat than cops cant talk to me even if i smash the car with a gold club

[ringmaster]

You should be very careful driving in Saudia Ghaith. if some Saudi hits your car, first thing cops will do will blame you for hitting saudi guy and will take your thawb (pants) off.

Not if i become an Diplomat than cops cant talk to me even if i smash the car with a gold club

I admire your ambition to become a diplomat. To reach that world you will require some social graces, such as appreciation of a good wine.

[sum]

Hello MesMorial

Perhaps you overlooked my question.

Do you believe that Muhammad stoned or ordered to be stoned people deemed to be guilty of some sexual sin?

sum

[MesMorial]

Hello MesMorial

Perhaps you overlooked my question.

Do you believe that Muhammad stoned or ordered to be stoned people deemed to be guilty of some sexual sin?

sum

Not really since basically everything in sharia law seems taken from Torah or something.

[Ghaith]

Hello MesMorial

Perhaps you overlooked my question.

Do you believe that Muhammad stoned or ordered to be stoned people deemed to be guilty of some sexual sin?

sum

Not really since basically everything in sharia law seems taken from Torah or something.

The Sharia law is based on the Quran and Sunnah.
Similarties to the Torah is because the kitabs are from the same source (Quran and Torah).
Muhammad himself judged the Jews according to the Torah.

[MesMorial]

Most interesting. Apparently the Jews did not need a messenger to clarify things for them (5:42-43).

[Ghaith]

Most interesting. Apparently the Jews did not need a messenger to clarify things for them (5:42-43).

Dont stop at 43, at 44 a message sent to them and entrusted to rabbies.

5:47 will answer you problem mes

People where judged from the torah until 24:3 was revealed to Muhammad

The story of 5:42-43 is found in Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23 N 413 there are more stories than this single one.

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque.

He judge'd them according to the law in Leviticus 20:10.

"'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death.

[iffo]

Barbaric laws from barbaric people. Have no place in 21st century where civilized people live.

[Ghaith]

Barbaric laws from barbaric people. Have no place in 21st century where civilized people live.

Iffo my favorite fake ex muslim.

We havent talked for a while? How the conspiracy theori about me living in Canada going?

[sum]

Hello MesMorial

Your quote -
Not really since basically everything in sharia law seems taken from Torah or something.

This has nothing to do with whether you believe that Muhammad stoned or did not stone. Are you saying that you do not believe that Muhammad stoned?

sum

[iffo]

Barbaric laws from barbaric people. Have no place in 21st century where civilized people live.

Iffo my favorite fake ex muslim.

We havent talked for a while? How the conspiracy theori about me living in Canada going?

See how I found out about MM roots. He calls me his guru since .
You also exposed about Canada in your post.

Tell me when will you leave this stupid men made religion Ghaith?
How can you allow a desert man to fool you?

[kaimana1]

Barbaric laws from barbaric people. Have no place in 21st century where civilized people live.

Iffo my favorite fake ex muslim.

We havent talked for a while? How the conspiracy theori about me living in Canada going?

Iffo is a fake ex muslim???? have you seen his older posts?

He was like you Ghaith.

Over time you will be like iffo. trust me

[Ghaith]

Barbaric laws from barbaric people. Have no place in 21st century where civilized people live.

Iffo my favorite fake ex muslim.

We havent talked for a while? How the conspiracy theori about me living in Canada going?

See how I found out about MM roots. He calls me his guru since .
You also exposed about Canada in your post.

Tell me when will you leave this stupid men made religion Ghaith?
How can you allow a desert man to fool you?

MM didnt look Pakistani to me
Here my facebook if you still belive that i am from Canada http://www.facebook.com/Younesterrab

Got any other good conspiracy theories?

[Ghaith]

Over time you will be like iffo. trust me

Dont insult me Kai

What makes you thing i will become an atheist? Even you belive in god Kai.

[iffo]

Over time you will be like iffo. trust me

Dont insult me Kai

What makes you thing i will become an atheist? Even you belive in god Kai.

I am sure seeds of doubt have already started to grow in your mind. Your are already 40% atheist.
You will be atheist my friend once you get rid of your stuborness /ego and start thinking more maturely and seriously putting your emotion aside.

This was my very first post on FFI
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2724&p=44784#p44784

This was # 2
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2920&p=48741#p48741

[Ghaith]

I am sure seeds of doubt have already started to grow in your mind. Your are already 40% atheist.

95% of the people here are knowledge less about Islam and copy/paste's from Ali Sinas article.
Ali Sina him self is an idiot, who has no knowledge of Islam. I am still laughing when he said that Abu Bakr was Muhammads foster brother
40% Atheist i am 101% Monotheist There is no god but god.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2724&p=44784#p44784

R u? How old where you when you wrote this article? 14? Using online Mmorpg language?

I can bring you back to Islam if you like. Just bring the facts that made you leave Islam and i refute them than i give you indisputable facts why Islam is the true religion.

You are still young Iffo. How old are you now 16? 17? God is mericful and can still forgive you.

[Fernando]

The verse is not a part of the quran but is a law as Muhammad did not want to write it down.
<snip>
Sahih Muslim, Book 17, Number 4214:
"Thereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: O Allah, I am the first to revive Thy command when they had made it dead. He then commanded and he (the offender) was stoned to death."

The verse is not a part of the quran unlike 24:2

Keep in mind the Quran was not preserved by Written form but by Memorization. And they had many other written form Aisha had her Uthman, Omar Hafsa and the list goes on.

We still have the verse of the stonning today but it is not a part of the Quran.
The old man and the old woman, if they commit adultery

Oh dear Ghaith, you're not doing Islam much good today. You've just placed Mohammed as the editor of the Koran, not the messenger! No doubt the satanic verses were left out also because Mohammed didn't want to write them down.