Bad news for France

[marduk]

France is doomed. The European refugees should start fleeing to America now. America has enough guns and ammo to hold the Muslims off for a while.

With Francois Hollande as president, Muslims will be able to import even more Muslims and have even higher social benefits -- that in turn will attract even more Muslims that can (vote for) vote for even more Socialists. 95 percent of Muslims in France vote for the socialists. The socialists' strategy is clear: burden your own countries with weak immigrants from a less civilized culture in order to secure your own reelection. Invite people to our part of the world who have many children and are only able to manage few kinds of jobs, and who will therefore always vote for the Left.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/demog ... sarko.html

PARIS (AP) — Socialist Francois Hollande defeated conservative incumbent Nicolas Sarkozy on Sunday to become France's next president, heralding a change in how Europe tackles its debt crisis and how France flexes its military and diplomatic muscle around the world.

Read more: http://www.timesunion.com/business/arti ... z1u8FhPK3n

[ringmaster]

I think this will simply hasten the arrival of the civil war that has been a certainty for a long time.

[enceladus]

I think this will simply hasten the arrival of the civil war that has been a certainty for a long time.

Agreed.
- enceladus

[Jimi]

France has always had a reputation as wimps. They will roll over and be dhimmee. Allah France will be the call

[ringmaster]

France has always had a reputation as wimps. They will roll over and be dhimmee. Allah France will be the call

I disagree.

The French are not wimps. They bore the brunt of the fighting in WW1 and suffered a terrible blood letting. The war took place mostly on their soil.

They surrendered early in WW 2 for several reasons. One was very poor leadership. Their general staff was old and ossified, and really had only prepared them to fight a war along the lines of the previous war. For example, their Chief of Staff, General Gamelin, planned French defences on the assumption that air power would not be important. That old fart didn't even have radio communication or phones at his headquarters. He sent out messages by dispatch riders on motorcycles. French tanks were actually more numerous and better than German tanks. The French failed because of poor communications and because they deployed them improperly. They scattered them out with infantry divisions, whereas the Germans concentrated them in armoured divisions.

French had superior weapons (except for aircraft), but the Germans had superior tactics. The Germans based their new tactics on a book written in the 1920's. That book was written by a young French Colonel. His name was Charles de Gaulle. De Gaulle's own ossified generals wrote off De Gaulle's military doctrine as being wrong.

The second reason the French surrendered was that they realized, quite correctly I believe, that the country could not withstand another round of bloodshed like they suffered in WW1.

Civil war is coming to Europe, and it will not be confined to France. It will be a mess.

[Ghaith]

France has always had a reputation as wimps. They will roll over and be dhimmee. Allah France will be the call

I disagree.

The French are not wimps. They bore the brunt of the fighting in WW1 and suffered a terrible blood letting. The war took place mostly on their soil.

They surrendered early in WW 2 for several reasons. One was very poor leadership. Their general staff was old and ossified, and really had only prepared them to fight a war along the lines of the previous war. For example, their Chief of Staff, General Gamelin, planned French defences on the assumption that air power would not be important. That old fart didn't even have radio communication or phones at his headquarters. He sent out messages by dispatch riders on motorcycles. French tanks were actually more numerous and better than German tanks. The French failed because of poor communications and because they deployed them improperly. They scattered them out with infantry divisions, whereas the Germans concentrated them in armoured divisions.

French had superior weapons (except for aircraft), but the Germans had superior tactics. The Germans based their new tactics on a book written in the 1920's. That book was written by a young French Colonel. His name was Charles de Gaulle. De Gaulle's own ossified generals wrote off De Gaulle's military doctrine as being wrong.

The second reason the French surrendered was that they realized, quite correctly I believe, that the country could not withstand another round of bloodshed like they suffered in WW1.

Civil war is coming to Europe, and it will not be confined to France. It will be a mess.

I guess its Allahs (swt) will that france have wimps as leaders or what ringmaster ?

[ringmaster]

I guess its Allahs (swt) will that france have wimps as leaders or what ringmaster ?

So finally you are being a good muslim boy and accepting allah's will. So the next time the Jews kick your Arab ass, or the next time the Hindus kick Pukeistan's ass, you will obediently accept it as allah's will.

You will also accept it as allah's will that virtually every islamic state on the planet is a craphole (rather like a public toilet), and that Mecca (the world's largest public toilet) will be too expensive for you.

[marduk]

Interesting thing about France, it was the reason why the Nazi Party was formed. If you download Mein Kampf it has an intro which gives background on Germany at the time. France was trying to take over Germany. Read it yourself. If the Nazis hadn't arisen Germans would probably be speaking French right now. Not saying the Nazis were a good thing, just that it looks like France got what it deserved. The French have always thought they were better than everyone else and tried to take over their countries.

[ringmaster]

Interesting thing about France, it was the reason why the Nazi Party was formed. If you download Mein Kampf it has an intro which gives background on Germany at the time. France was trying to take over Germany. Read it yourself. If the Nazis hadn't arisen Germans would probably be speaking French right now. Not saying the Nazis were a good thing, just that it looks like France got what it deserved. The French have always thought they were better than everyone else and tried to take over their countries.

The real reason the Nazi party was formed was that the Germans and their Bohemian Korporal leader were sore losers.

The Germans needed an unmistakeable and thorough ass kicking. That took until 1945.

The European civil war lasted from 1914 to 1945. The period from 1918 to 1939 was merely a truce. The end result of the European civil war was that no European country won it. The big victors in it were outsiders (primarily the Soviet Union and the United States) who, at its outset, really wanted nothing to do with it.

What history shows, in my opinion, is that Europeans, left to their own devices, will defecate in their own beds every time. The most prolonged period of peace in Europe's history was after WW2 when the said two outsiders occupied it.

Now Europeans are willingly importing their next civil war. It will come. In fact, I would argue that it has already come. The only questions that remain are when the actual shooting will start, and whether outsiders will come in again to clean up the mess that Europeans always make for themselves.

[Ghaith]

France are far worse than Nazi Germany, still we hear about The holocaust all the time.
How about the media start to bring up the Algerian genocide by France.

[Ram]

I guess its Allahs (swt) will that france have wimps as leaders or what ringmaster?

Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most backward, the least educated people in the world? Is it Allah's will that Shias and Sunnis slaughter each other in Pakistan everyday? Is it Allah's will that the girls are killed for the sake of honour in Muslim countries? Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most intolerant and violent?

[Ghaith]

I guess its Allahs (swt) will that france have wimps as leaders or what ringmaster?

Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most backward, the least educated people in the world? Is it Allah's will that Shias and Sunnis slaughter each other in Pakistan everyday? Is it Allah's will that the girls are killed for the sake of honour in Muslim countries? Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most intolerant and violent?

When you get involved in other people's business you misunderstand the context.

[marduk]

Allah is such an evil god that we have to hope that the real god is NOTHING like Allah, because if he is then we are all doomed. We can be pretty sure that Allah is not the real Supreme God, considering how utterly powerless he is, so that's a big relief. Hopefully, he won't have any humans to punish us for him after we die. Allah can't punish us, if he could he wouldn't have needed to make laws and punishments for mankind to inflict on the offenders. He would just punish them himself instantly after they did the crime.

So in conclusion, Allah likes to make scary statements and threats but we really have nothing to worry about from "Mr. I need humans to help me". If you can do something, you don't make threats, you just do it. Fortunately for mankind, no supernatural beings have yet appeared who actually have power to effect us to any great extent. There's the odd evil spirit around, but they don't generally do much actual damage.

[Ram]

I guess its Allahs (swt) will that france have wimps as leaders or what ringmaster?

Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most backward, the least educated people in the world? Is it Allah's will that Shias and Sunnis slaughter each other in Pakistan everyday? Is it Allah's will that the girls are killed for the sake of honour in Muslim countries? Is it Allah's will that Muslims are the most intolerant and violent?

When you get involved in other people's business you misunderstand the context.

Oh? Is it not my business when I am not able to live in my beloved Sindh because I am not a Muslim? I can trace my family in Sindh on my mother's side and in Balochistan on my father's side for at least one thousand years, and I am denied my rights as a citizen because I am a Hindu, and you say I am getting involved in other people's business? Shame on you Ghaith! You are a typical shameless Muslim.

You would not say that if Muslims were not allowed to live in India, the USA or any other Muslim country. Besides, what context you are talking about? The context is a meaningless word when Muslims like you try to explain away the attrocities committed by Muslims. What context there is when there is no freedom of religion for non-Muslims in any Muslim country? What context there is when Christians are being murdred in Egypt, Indonesia, Pakistan and many other Muslim countries everyday?

Please answer - why there is no freedom of religion in Muslim countries? What is the context? Will you be the first Muslim to answer this question? Or, you are going to wimp out?

[Ghaith]

Egypt

You misunderstood the Context of what i said to ringmaster.

You want to talk murder?
How about we talk about France genocide of Algerians?

[Ram]

Egypt

You misunderstood the Context of what i said to ringmaster.

You want to talk murder?
How about we talk about France genocide of Algerians?

Pish posh! Muslims have been killing non-Muslims for last 1400 years? So, what is your point? Muslims killed more than 80 million Hindus in India, from 8th Century to the arrival of the British. Muslims killed millions of Iranians and forced them to submit to Islam. Muslims are killing fellow Muslims everyday in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. Sudanese Muslims killed almost one million Darfurian Muslims in the first decade of 2000's.

Let us talk about today. Muslims enjoy equal rights in every European country and in Canada and the USA, the Christian majority countries. But do you think Muslims will give equal rights to Christians in Muslim countries? Why don't Muslims reciprocate the rights they enjoy in non-Muslim countries?

What is the obsession with context? What context? I did not misunderstand anything. I understood everything you said. Stop using the meaningless word 'context'. Deal with the real issues.

When Muslims have no answer, they throw around the word context.

[ringmaster]

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When Muslims have no answer, they throw around the word context.

Yup.

Some, like Mesmorial, say that some parts of the koran do not apply to modern times. Trouble is, I don't see anything in the koran that says that.

[Ram]

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When Muslims have no answer, they throw around the word context.

Some, like Mesmorial, say that some part of the koran do not apply to modern times. Trouble is, I don't see anything in the koran that says that.

Absolutely. Muslims say that the Quran is the perfect book and is relevant for ever for the entire humanity, but when we bring to their attention the flaws in the (un)holy book, they fall back on the argument that the parts of the Quran do not apply to modern times. This is called Islamic logic.

What is it? Is the Quran relevant for ever for the entire humanity or some of the its parts do not apply to modern times?