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DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby Sten » Thu Feb 16, 2012 8:05 am

paxi christi wrote:seems i have never believed in anything different would you say?


You said that you believed in Creation. To most people, that means belief that Adam was created as a fully formed human, and Eve was created from his rib.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby gupsfu » Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:27 pm

paxi christi wrote:here is today's news on the Vatican...... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religio ... anity.html

FYI, that isn't "today's news". The article was written in 2009. The Vatican's acceptance of evolution dated back even earlier, in case you don't know.

paxi christi wrote:seems i have never believed in anything different would you say?so my Catholic faith has never been tested/altered.

The Catholic Church had been repeatedly forced to change its views on science thanks to scientists such as Bruno, Galileo, Darwin, etc.

But it was not before the Church burned Bruno to death, house-arrested Galileo, and condemned Darwin before it realized it had no choice but to accept their scientific discoveries.

However, I will give you the benefit of doubt that you might be just talking about yourself, not the Catholic Church in general.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby paxi christi » Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:23 pm

@ sten

You said that you believed in Creation.


that is correct.


To most people, that means belief that Adam was created as a fully formed human, and Eve was created from his rib.


yes man came after animals...
on the adam and eve question...........language was very primitive,so the heart was in the direction of the rib cage..that is were love comes from..for example heart burn comes from acid within the chest area not the heart..so adam created eve through love of god.like god created adam through love of god.remember there were more than these two who came along at this time with man coming along.

hope ive put it over ok.

all the very best..:)


@ gupsfu

the mentality of not only the church but in politics and the every day life of the world was a bit questionable to some at the stages of differing centuries in time.but we/society even act barbaric today.but the church has moved on only governments have kept some of this mentality.but thats for another reason......another topic..

to discover some thing...would it already have to be in place before hand?
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby Sten » Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:23 pm

Paxi Christi wrote:hope ive put it over ok.


Not really. What you wrote makes no sense at all. :huh:
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby gupsfu » Sun Feb 19, 2012 11:57 pm

paxi christi wrote:@ gupsfu

the mentality of not only the church but in politics and the every day life of the world was a bit questionable to some at the stages of differing centuries in time.but we/society even act barbaric today.but the church has moved on only governments have kept some of this mentality.but thats for another reason......another topic..

to discover some thing...would it already have to be in place before hand?

Well think about it. Why did the Church have to "move on"?

I thought your god had the ultimate truth in the first place.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby paxi christi » Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:20 pm

@ gupsfu

Well think about it. Why did the Church have to "move on"?

I thought your god had the ultimate truth in the first place.


what sort of reply is that? lololol :lol:

what do you do for a job? o are you still at school?

btw...sten

gupsfu seems to have understood it quite well .orhe would have said the same wouldnt he?
guess you cant do the cryptics eh. :lol:
and here is me thinking i was talking to a genious who has faith in having no faith.guess i was wrong on that note eh
all he very best

what do you do for a job or are you still at school?

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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby Sten » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:47 pm

paxi christi wrote:btw...sten

gupsfu seems to have understood it quite well .orhe would have said the same wouldnt he?
guess you cant do the cryptics eh. :lol:
and here is me thinking i was talking to a genious who has faith in having no faith.guess i was wrong on that note eh
all he very best


You aren't making any sense. It's not cryptic, it's just incomprehensible. I don't think you even know what you're trying to say. The rib is near to the heart so that somehow means Adam created Eve through love of god? God created Adam through love of god? There were more than these two who came along at this time with man coming along? You are talking, but you're not actually saying anything. Is English your first language?

paxi christi wrote:what do you do for a job or are you still at school?

paxi


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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby pr126 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:03 pm

Sten wrote:
You aren't making any sense. It's not cryptic, it's just incomprehensible. I don't think you even know what you're trying to say.

You are wasting your time.
paxi is unteachable.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby Sten » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:52 am

pr126 wrote:Sten wrote:
You aren't making any sense. It's not cryptic, it's just incomprehensible. I don't think you even know what you're trying to say.

You are wasting your time.
paxi is unteachable.


I think you are right. He has the sort of smug attitude that the very religiously indoctrinated tend to have. If something he says doesn't make sense, it's because we're not smart/spiritual/faithful enough to understand his deep wisdom. :roll:
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby gupsfu » Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:42 pm

paxi christi wrote:@ gupsfu

Well think about it. Why did the Church have to "move on"?

I thought your god had the ultimate truth in the first place.


what sort of reply is that? lololol :lol:

what do you do for a job? o are you still at school?

Yes my dear, I have a job. I'm a fireman. How about you?

BTW, did you even think about what I said? Please don't be afraid to think.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby BlacKStaR » Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:03 am

A christian moaned and joked about how he had to look for his ancestors in monkeys and apes! I asked him to look for his ancestors in mud and soil, because thats where his god created them from. He got angry and naturally started ranting christian quotes. I asked him to stuff the bible up an donkeys arse and start researching into evolution.

Classic.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby Idesigner » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:49 am

BlacKStaR wrote:A christian moaned and joked about how he had to look for his ancestors in monkeys and apes! I asked him to look for his ancestors in mud and soil, because thats where his god created them from. He got angry and naturally started ranting christian quotes. I asked him to stuff the bible up an donkeys arse and start researching into evolution.

Classic.


Once a white Harekrishna brain washed follower of Prabhupad A.C.Baktivedanat challanged me to create a lowly life from all the chemicals supplied by him.. He knew that I am a geologist knowing lot about origin of life etc.

I told him sure organic molecule or even simple DNA code can be made from chemical molecules. I challnged him to make life form ( simple bee would do) by praying infront of a glass of water or by chanting Hare Rama etc thousand times.

On serious note I tried to convince that mother nature didnt produce a mosquito or elephant overnite. There were microbes, single cell organism, algae, fungus, amoeba, multicellular organism, organisms without organella or complex organs and then we had invertebrates some 1000 million years later and finally fish, reptiles and mammals.
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Re: DID MAN EVOLVE FROM APE?

Postby BlacKStaR » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:21 am

Idesigner wrote:
BlacKStaR wrote:A christian moaned and joked about how he had to look for his ancestors in monkeys and apes! I asked him to look for his ancestors in mud and soil, because thats where his god created them from. He got angry and naturally started ranting christian quotes. I asked him to stuff the bible up an donkeys arse and start researching into evolution.

Classic.


Once a white Harekrishna brain washed follower of Prabhupad A.C.Baktivedanat challanged me to create a lowly life from all the chemicals supplied by him.. He knew that I am a geologist knowing lot about origin of life etc.

I told him sure organic molecule or even simple DNA code can be made from chemical molecules. I challnged him to make life form ( simple bee would do) by praying infront of a glass of water or by chanting Hare Rama etc thousand times.

On serious note I tried to convince that mother nature didnt produce a mosquito or elephant overnite. There were microbes, single cell organism, algae, fungus, amoeba, multicellular organism, organisms without organella or complex organs and then we had invertebrates some 1000 million years later and finally fish, reptiles and mammals.


Heheheheh.. did he pray or not?
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