are there good things about Muhammad?Re: are there good things about Muhammad?franky honey, you know nothing baout our prophet muhammad, number of miracles were bestowed upon and performed by Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) to establish the proof of his prophethood. The greatest miracle bestowed upon him was the revelation of the Qur'an. The Qur'an is miraculous in a number of aspects: Its linguistic perfection and inimitability, its validation by recent historical, archaeological, and scientific discoveries, its prophecies and so on. Unlike the miracles of other prophets before him, the miracle of the Qur'an is eternal. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) also provided us with a number of true prophecies.
his miracles: Splitting of the Moon Food Multiplication Water Multiplication Supplication for Rain Lights to guide Companions Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree Glorification of Allah by the Prophet's meals The explusion of a liar's corpse by the Earth The Speech of the Wolf The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavens
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uncung & co: You are happy to quote from Biblical sources when it suits your purpose,presumably then the quotes you mention have not been"corrupted",as Islamic scholars like to say? Deuteronomy 18;19 is nothing to do with Mohammed,but Jesus.Jesus,is the Messiah,and this is what O.T. scripture refers to numerous times,culminating in the miraculous birth of Jesus, as written in th N.T.A true prophet of Yahweh,puts into action Yahwehs commands, in the spirit of good, not evil purposes in the form of miracles.Although the Arabs are from the line of Ishmael,they are not designated from Hebrew lineage,they may be called bretheren in humanity,but they are not bretheren in faith. The spirit that gave Mohammed the Quran was not from the same Biblical spiritual source.It is said to be Gabriel,but this cannot be the case,for several reasons.All Biblical angels give their messages to humans in a peaceful and unharmful way.Their first words are "do not be afraid",and the person is not left feeling terrified and harmed in any way. Unlike Mohamamed who was left feeling he had been vistied by demons,and ran to Khadijah for reassurance,and comfort.This same angel Gabriel, announced to Mary,by first saying do not be afraid,that she would give birth to Jesus,and He will be called The Son of the Most High God,something which Muslims call shirk,which leads onto another question,why should Jesus be designated as one of Islams prophets,when he is said to be Gods Son? The entire messages spoken as parables from Jesus, were to do with Gods love for mankind and how mankind responds to this love. He called his followers to fight a spiritual battle between the forces of good and evil,unlike Mohammed who phyisically fought and killed in Allahs cause, and by his example expects his followers to do the same. These are two diametrically opposing actions in the name of one God.Therefore,given all the overwhelming evidence in the Quran,which also calls for fighting and killing,the Bible God is not the same as the Islamic god. Jesus said "false prophets will be known by their fruits." What are the fruits of Islam? Your own intelligence should provide the answer,given that the Muslim world is in absolute chaos and turmoil.
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?Hello uncung
Your quote = his miracles: Splitting of the Moon Food Multiplication Water Multiplication Supplication for Rain Lights to guide Companions Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree Glorification of Allah by the Prophet's meals The explusion of a liar's corpse by the Earth The Speech of the Wolf The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem and Ascent to the Heavensuncung Do you truly and genuinely believe that the list that you posted above is accurate and true? sum
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?Amazing miracles "uncung". we badly need that Food Multiplication & Water Multiplication ., In fact the way Islamic Ummah is growing we need exponential growth of water and food to feed the Ummah..., But now I have strong doubt whether you are a Muslim OR NOT...., Any ways Let me add more Amazing thing of Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) from written by Ahmad Rahnamaei(PBUH) read more at that link from that Islamic Scholar
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I am Ram, the Eternal Prophet, I was not born so I shall not die. Muhammad used to clean latrines in the homes of True Believers, now his people are blowing themselves up. I agree with yeezevee, Muhammad was just a common criminal. Some one wrote his life story, the Quran. That was the 1st book written in Arabia, so naturally it became very popular - no book was written in Arabic language for hundreds of years after that. वासुदेव कुटुम्बकम्।
ساری دنیا ايک ہی خاندان ہۓ۔ The Whole World is a Family.
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uncung, this crap must be true because nobody can write that kind of sh!t. वासुदेव कुटुम्बकम्।
ساری دنیا ايک ہی خاندان ہۓ۔ The Whole World is a Family.
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frankie In my personal opinion.... Muslims believe that Muhammad was a Messenger of God and his divine message (God's message) for all mankind… and he imparts his message for all ages, all times, and all societies. It’s the divine message (God’s message), it was not Muhammad personal message. The divine message was meant to unite for the whole of humanity in one brotherhood...(similarity among Christianity, Judaism and other teaching of religions). Let me explain a little bit about the divine message. The divine message has always been sent through those fitly endowed. For instance when wealth was esteemed the message was delivered by King Solomon; when beauty was worshipped, Joseph, the most handsome, gave the message; when music was regarded as celestial David gave his message in song. When there was curiosity about miracles Moses brought his message. When sacrifice was highly esteemed Abraham gave the message. When heredity was recognized, Christ gave his message as the Son of Mary. When democracy was necessary, Muhammad gave his message as the Servant of God, one like all and among all. This put an end to the necessity for more prophets, because of the democratic nature of his proclamation and message. He proclaimed la ilaha illa-llah. Shahadah (Testimony of Faith) one of the first pillar of Islam. La ilaha illa-llah “There is no God except Allah” or "There is none worthy of worship except Allah." That was the final initiation, from which dated the blooming of Muhammad's prophetic message. For the true Muslims they have never called the message given by the Muhammad as his personal message. He always speaks of kalam-ullah, which means the Word of God. And that is why the Muslims also never call their Islamic religion 'Muhammadanism or Muhammadan religion,' but they call it Islam. I'd rather talk about Muhammad's prophetic message as the Servant of God…”the whole of humanity in one brotherhood” than to talk about that La ilaha illa-llah. The whole of humanity in one brotherhood do not belong to those particular religions or certain religions. For those who follow a particular principle which was given to them, are brothers. It must be hard and unloving to those who do not belong to it.. for example these terrorist acts were done by freedom-hating radical Islamic Muslim extremists and other extremist networks. Peace be unto you the clearest meanings of brotherhood, the meaning of "assalamu alaikum" is the Islamic greeting which literally means “peace be upon you”. The same thing Jesus always said, Peace be unto you or Peace be with you. (John 20:21) 1400 years ago there already existed the tendency of forming a human brotherhood by the teachings of Muhammad that tended to form a universal brotherhood. The various families amongst the Arabs began to live together and began to eat together, to shake hands, and worship together in the same house of God. The first and most important motive was uniting mankind in brotherhood and the second was the uplifting of the soul. It is the lesson of love is first learned by human love. The God’s message was meant to unite for the whole of humanity in one brotherhood.Therefore the highest ideal of brotherhood which spiritual realization can teach. I believe most of Muslims or probably they did not understand the truth behind it… This is how Muhammad expects his followers to do the same.. Pls note this is regarding my personal understanding of Islam teachings. And right now, I am busy in my job and I have limited time available and are not able to spend a lot of time on the FFI forum. I'll respond to you as soon as I get some free time... Be patient with yourself.. Last edited by SAM on Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ali Sina said, "If I am asked do I hate Muslims? Then my honest answer is yes". "I am against Islam". " I hate Islam". And also said, "I believe that Judaism is a religion of “nonsense”, those who believe in it are “filled with bigotry and hate”
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?@ SAM;
You can forget answering 2:216 and 9:29; punishment for apostasy is less covered. Cheers.
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You have the gall to use the words "democracy" and "Muhammad" in the same sentence? How is totalitarianism the same as democracy? Here's Muhammad's form of democracy; "do whatever I tell you or I'll have my obedient lackeys kill you, then after I'm gone do whatever the hereditary leader tells you. See how democratic Islam is? You have a choice. Death just happens to be what results if you choose not to do whatever I say, that's all." Last edited by marduk on Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?To blindly believethose highlighted words, without any inquiry is a problem from me Mr. Ram. As you see in this brief story of Muhammad's life., there is hardly any or NO criminal activities by Muhammad until his first of Khadija was alive. ., Quran doesn't tell(or tells very little) on his life., It is surprising to note His wife Khadija being 1st person to accept him as Prophet of Allah., her name was not mentioned in Quran but you have names like Zaid, Zainab Abu Lahab in Quran. That troubles me. It is as if there were Multiple Muhammads or multiple Characters/personalities of Muhammad was put together by the early Islamic writers to write books like Quran/Hadith and sunnah No.. no., Again Quran doesn't tell Muhammad's life story., Neither it is a first book in Arabic and I think plenty of Manuscripts were written in Arabic with in the first 200 years after the death of Muhammad. It is possible many of them were burned by these early Muslim Hoards..
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?There was plenty of written poetry before Muhammad. Where do you think he got the idea to make the Quran a poetry book? It's nothing more than the Hanifiya religion with the word Hanifiya changed to Islam. That's literally the only difference except for Hannifia says NOT to fight while Islam says TO fight, and the Quran says that Muhammad is Allah's prophet. Hanifiya never said that or predicted him in any way. Umayya bin al-Salt wrote this sura... I mean Hanifiya poem. Muhammad later stole some of his poems and used them in the Quran. As you can see from the Quran, Muhammad totally subverted Hanifiya for his own power-hungry reasons, changing it from a peaceful religion to a religion of war and death. How did Allah suddenly change from "don't fight" to "fight all those who deny Allah and his Apostle"? When did prophets ever get the right to be believed under penalty of death? Why didn't Allah do that for Abraham, Moses, Jesus and the rest? Why did Muhammad get honored above all other prophets to be raised to the level of Allah, where you have to believe everything they say or die? How did he get to be Allah's equal partner? How did he have the gall to then tell everybody that Allah can't have any partners when he had clearly made himself out to be just that? This poem says that a prophet already was sent to them, and it apparently wasn't Muhammad. Umayya actually believed himself to be the Prophet.
![]() more evidence that Islam is a perverted form of Hanifiya. Does it say that Abraham was a Muslim?
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Re: are there good things about Muhammad?If Hitler would have split the moon Muslims would follow him (more then now).
Besides the fact that he never had any witnesses to his miracles, they are irrelevant. Why? Page 21, still no answers on the title, while i can name countless bad acts in the name of Muhammed. ~A God of mercy
Would never... inform His people war is simply a means of testing ones faith Surah's:3:140, 3:142,3:166, 3:167, 9:16, 47:4 ~.. shame compassion with the victims Surah's:3:154, 8:17 ~.. mock pacifism : Surah's: 3:167, 47:20 ~..disavow peaceful solutions: Surah:3:156
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Hi Mes, These verse were not punishment for apostacy. There are punishment and instant death to Apostates can be found in the Bible's Old and New Testaments text. Quran 2:216 Fighting has been enjoined upon you while it is hateful to you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah Knows, while you know not. Quran 9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. Ali Sina said, "If I am asked do I hate Muslims? Then my honest answer is yes". "I am against Islam". " I hate Islam". And also said, "I believe that Judaism is a religion of “nonsense”, those who believe in it are “filled with bigotry and hate”
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?Sam:
"And right now, I am busy in my job and I have limited time available and are not able to spend a lot of time on the FFI forum. I'll respond to you as soon as I get some free time... Be patient with yourself.." Fair enough. However, I cannot let it pass that you claim the Islamic greeting "Peace be upon you" qualifies as the same meaning from Jesus.Islamic "peace" is connected ONLY to the concept within Sharia Law,or that is, Allahs rules and regulations,plus the example of his prophet Mohammed.The peace Jesus talks of is" His own peace,not given as the world does",John15:27.28.Jesus followed His fathers rules and regulations (Yahweh)based on the unconditional love between God and neighbour.The "love"Allah gives, is only to those who believe in him and his messenger Mohammed,anyone else has to be fought against,and subjugated to be brought "in line". Mohammed may have united Arab tribes,but he did so by using the only god he knew anything about,his Al ilah, Hubal,the chief,or the greatest moon god of the Kaaba.He therefore got rid of all the 360 idols,execpt one,the black stone,which by the way is still venerated today,and used his pagan god to unite the fractered tribes,deviously making it appear that this god was one and the same as the existing Christian and Jewish deity.This was rejected,by both Jews and Christians,causing much hostility and loss of life. However,I,and others await your return.
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?"Know that the life of the world is only play, and idle talk, and pageantry, and boasting among you, and rivalry in respect of wealth and children; as the likeness of vegetation after rain, whereof the growth is pleasing to the husbandman, but afterward it drieth up and thou seest it turning yellow, then it becometh straw. And in the Hereafter there is grievous punishment, and (also) forgiveness from Allah and His good pleasure, whereas the life of the world is but matter of illusion."
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?What's so miraculous about writing a book in imitation of the Prophet Umayya? You just read his poetry and write similar things, or actually just plagiarize his poems outright, as Muhammad is known to have done. So since the Quran copies the words of Umayya, does that not mean that Umayya was the Prophet of Allah? Or did Umayya simply foretell what was to be written in the Quran later by Allah himself? Either way, the only possible conclusion is that Umayya was the true Prophet of Allah. So why should we bother with the imitator Muhammad when we have the REAL prophetic works of Umayya like these;
![]() I like Umayya's religion a lot more than Muhammad's. Umayya is nice and doesn't like fighting. Muhammad is evil and likes killing and sex. Not only would I not follow such a man, I would probably beat the hell out of him if I ever met him, just for being a maggot. In fact, I'd probably just kill him on the spot and save a lot of innocent lives. Even if his demented lackeys then killed me I would consider it a worthy sacrifice, my single life to save millions of innocents. Allah would reward me greatly for taking Muhammad out. Whenever you encounter a psychopath who you know has killed and will kill again if you don't stop him, you should do exactly that. Only one way to ensure that he won't kill again. You know what must be done. Sadly, people in Muhammad's day were gutless, except the Jewess who poisoned him. Too bad she didn't just stab him, would have been more certain to accomplish the job. Yes, I know it sounds bad, but "sometimes what you don't like may be good for you" (source, Muhammad).
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Yes I am quite aware of that. I was alluding to the fact that I myself have replied to such questions about those verses, thus you need only worry about the penalty for apostasy. Cheers.
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Re: are there good things about Muhammad?Once a blind man came into the house of Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam). The Prophet told Ummul Mumineen Aisha (radi Allahu anha) to go behind a curtain. She replied, “O Prophet of Allah, he is blind. How can he see us?” The Prophet replied: “He may be blind, but you are not blind.” [Ahmad]
Re: are there good things about Muhammad?Hello uncung
Your quote - Once a blind man came into the house of Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam). The Prophet told Ummul Mumineen Aisha (radi Allahu anha) to go behind a curtain. She replied, “O Prophet of Allah, he is blind. How can he see us?” The Prophet replied: “He may be blind, but you are not blind.” [Ahmad] What on earth is unacceptable about Aisha seeing a blind man? How much more banal can you get? sum
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