From your linkThe Cat wrote:This is of course your main argument and it's plainy wrong, as per the definitions of 'spread out', that of E. Lane, and the context.MbL wrote:Spreading a single physical object ultimately entails making it more flat to the extent it is spread out. How can you deny that?.... So where is "spreading out" as something making it habitable? So why did the earth need to be spread out in order to make it habitable?The Cat wrote:Wrong. And we've seen how Y. Ali is alone in this allegory. So there's nothing about shape, not in 2.22, 15.19, 51.48, or elsewhere.
And I've shown your deceptive use of 'spread out' many times already. Between us, Lane's Lexicon makes you wrong. Get it??
Let's check it one last time for, as far as I am concerned, you both stand flat!
From: http://corpus.quran.com/wordbyword.jsp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And the earth CONJ – prefixed conjunction wa (and)
N – accusative feminine noun → Earth
after T – accusative time adverb
ظرف زمان منصوب
that DEM – masculine singular demonstrative pronoun
He spread it.[/quote]
What did Allah do to spread the earth?? How did he spread it?? Did he remove obstacles, like one of the definitions you try to use?? If so, what obstacles?? Did he make the earth smooth. If so, what part of the earth did he make smooth and what did he change to make it smooth?
Yes, spread it out like a bed is spread out and is flat so someone can lay on it or rest on it. When's the last time you've seen a ball shaped bed, lunatic?The Cat wrote: 2.22
Firashan = resting place
And the earth We have spread it (madadnaha)
Answered above. Funny how i answer every point you make and you don't answer every point I make. You merely discard the questions you can't answer and then pretend as though you've answered them.The Cat wrote: 20.53
Madhan = bed
How was it made more spacious?? It was spread out to make it more spacious, right? So what happens to it's shape when you spread out a singular, physical object? 4th time I've asked you this.The Cat wrote: 29.56
Wasi'atun = (is) spacious.
Answered above. Beds a flat and stretch out so that people can lay on them. The earth was stretch out and made flat so that people could live on it.The Cat wrote: 43.10
The One Who made for you the earth a bed (l-arda mahdan)
And what happens to a singular physical object when it is spread out?The Cat wrote: 51.48
Wal-arda farashanaha = And the earth We have spread it.
What does expanse have to do with hospitality and comfort?The Cat wrote: 71.19
And Allah made for you the earth an expanse (l-arda bisatan)
Yes, by flattening it out.The Cat wrote: 78.6
Have not We made the earth a resting place? (l-arda mihadan)
You mean 79:30. I only raise that because I can tell you think you're perfect and can't stand making even one little mistake. Why does spreading the earth make it more comfortable and habitable for people. I keep asking and you refuse to answer. I'll just keep asking until you do so that everybody gets to see how you really behave and how evasive you really are.The Cat wrote: 79.13
Dahaha = He spread it
Yes, it was spread out to create ample flat space for people to live on. They can't live on the sides of a ball (or so they thought). We've already been through thisThe Cat wrote: 88.20
And towards the earth, how it is spread out? (sutihat)
By spreading it out and extending it. Exactly as I say. And once again, what happens when you spread a singular physical object or or extends it?? It gets flatter to the extent one spread it or stretches it.The Cat wrote: Edward Lane's Lexicon, on Daha...
--He spread; spread out, or forth; expanded; or extended
--He (God) made the earth wide, or ample;
Well I gave a more specific explanation of HOW it actually relates to the ostrich and you tried to write that off as merely their opinion. Now, it seems as though you've changed you mind and do not think it was merely their opinion. And yet, you'll never admit that. That's OK, everybody gets to see what you're really made of and how you operate when properly challenged. I'm liking this.The Cat wrote: --also, said of an ostrich, he expanded, and made wide...[/color]
definition for diffuseThe Cat wrote: viewtopic.php?p=161807#p161807" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Of 'spread out', we find (1) Diffuse; (2) Arrange/set up; (3) Scatter; (4) Expand/dispread.
1.to pour out and spread, as a fluid.[/quote]
Did Allah pour the earth out?? Ridiculous
That does not refer to a singular object but rather multiple individual ones. Nice try but it's simply not goinmg to work. You're not very bright and now you're coming off as quite dishonest.2.to spread or scatter widely or thinly; disseminate.
3.Physics . to spread by diffusion.
How does this relate to the earth being spread out?
So now the story is that Allah poured the earth out?? If it's not, then why raise this particular application of the word?? Just to dilute and confuse things?? Sorry, but that's not going to work. It's a pretty stupid and desperate attempt. Trying to diffuse the issue???The Cat wrote: Diffuse
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/diffuse" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
diffuse - Based on Latin diffundere, "pour out," from fundere, "pour," it means "to spread out."
Was the earth poured out into outer space?The Cat wrote: --To pour out and cause to spread freely;
Not in the case of a singular physical object.The Cat wrote: To spread about or scatter, disseminate; soften.
Not in the case of a singular physical object.The Cat wrote: --To become widely dispersed, spread out. Widely spread or scattered.
And it didn't use the word expand as it did for the heavens. So what happens to a singular object when it is spread out in all directions?? What happens to a ball of pizza dough when it is spread out in all directions? Go ahead, avoid the question. That's fine because everybody gets to see how you really operate when your crackpot ideas are properly challenged. People must be really stupid to have any respect for you. I can't believe they don't see through you.The Cat wrote: --To spread or cause to spread in all directions
Pouring out the earth into space?The Cat wrote: --To undergo or cause to undergo diffusion
Not in the case of a singular physical object.The Cat wrote: --To scatter or cause to scatter, disseminate, disperse
And what happens to a singular, physical object when you spread it out over a wide area? Does it get rounder or flatter?The Cat wrote: --Spread out over a wide area
And it does this by spreading the dirt out and then FLATTENING it down.The Cat wrote: And so an ostrich spread out its nest, ie. make it wide, ample, expanded, to comfortably suit a communal purpose.
That's the definition we are supposed to choose for spread out?? Allah poured the earth out?? Take water from a fish bowl and pour it out. Does it become more round as it diffuses or more flat?The Cat wrote: Clearly to spread out is to diffuse, causing diffusion.
Nope, nice try. And unlike you, I answer every single point you attempt in detail piece by piece.The Cat wrote: Nothing to do with round/flat; but wide, ample, expanded for comfort.
[/quote]The Cat wrote: Our skating sophists, out of arrogance, will stay... flat.
It's there for everyone to see...
Nobody in their right mind would agree, but you think otherwise because you are not in your right mind. But part of me thinks you actually know you are wrong, but just can't bear that fact. All that anybody has to do with you is to ask detailed questions and your story falls apart. And by avoiding answering them, you do not solve your problem, you merely show everyone just how evasive you are willing to be.