skynightblaze wrote:The outcome of debate rests on the question whether quran references the hadiths or not?
If yes then all your arguments automatically become invalid
It does but certainly not the way you would like it...
4.87: Whose hadith (Ĥadīthāan) can be truer than Allah's?
7.185: In what HADITH (Ĥadīthin) after this will they believe?
9.31: They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks (ie. Hanbal/Bukhari; imams and sheiks
) and the
Messiah son of Mary (or Muhammad turned into such an Islamic Messiah
), when they were bidden to worship only One God.
16.116: And do not say (...) This is lawful and this is prohibited, in order to forge against Allah the lie...
31.6: Among the people, there are those who uphold baseless Hadith (Al-Ĥadīthi), and thus divert others from the path of GOD.
45.6: In which Hadith (Ĥadīthin) other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
Now in the Koran even the SHARIA is solely that sent to Abraham, then inspired to Muhammad. The man-made shariah is BID'aa
45:18 And now have We set thee (O Muhammad) on a clear road of (Our) commandment (Alá Sharī`atin
so follow it, and follow not the whims of those who know not.
45.16 And verily we gave the Children of Israel the Scripture and the Command and the Prophethood (Al-Ĥukma Wa An-Nubūwata),
and provided them with good things and favoured them above (all) peoples...
42.13: He hath ordained for you that religion (Shara`a
Lakum Mina Ad-Dīni) which He commended unto Noah,
and that which We inspire in thee (Muhammad), and that which We commended unto Abraham and Moses and Jesus,
saying: Establish the religion, and be not divided therein.
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The verse uses the word, will, for the Laws ordained for Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, but it uses the verb, reveal, for the Last Messenger. Will implies strong advice and giving special importance to certain things.... The verse first mentions Prophet Noah, and continues to talk about the Last Messenger, and then the other great Messengers. This is because Prophet Noah, is the first Messenger to whom a comprehensive Law to govern life was willed (see: 33.7)
Preserving and obeying the Law is indispensable for establishing the Religion and preserving it from distortions, changes, and corruptions. The Law has the same meaning for the Religion as the skin has for the human body. The main reason why the Religion lost its originality and purity after the Prophets Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, upon them all be peace, is that people either ignored or neglected the Law, or changed it, or disobeyed it. Negligence of, or disobedience to, the Law is also one of the basic reasons for the internal divisions among the communities of the Messengers after them, and for the deviations witnessed concerning the essentials of faith.
Authority has the same etymological root as authenticity.