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Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:50 pm
by Ariel
This topic is not about Islam, but of an other dangerous religion. Climate change is now it seems the new religion.

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Who outside Europe has never heard of Greta Thunberg ? In Europe this 16 year old girl with braids in her hair, who looks 9 years old is very famous. People in Sweden let us believe she is send by God to warn us of CO2 and the changing climate.

Meet Greta the Swedish girl

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Because of her, thousands of students ( young and old) skipped for weeks school to save the CLIMATE . They yelled CO2, get rid of it.
And when the demonstration was near to an end, almost all of the kids went to mcdonald and burger king to buy hamburgers and other goodies.

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Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:54 pm
by Ariel
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Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 3:58 pm
by Ariel
Greta meets Jean-Claude Juncker, the President of the European Commission, who is drunk most hours of the day.

I never drink out of an plastic bottle.

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Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:05 pm
by Ariel
The mother of Greta is sure about it. She said "my daughter can see CO2 with the unaided eye."

She wrote a book over her daughter.

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Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 4:07 pm
by Ariel
Greta Thunberg claims ‘gift’ of Asperger syndrome helps her see through environment ‘lies’

In a recent interview with presenter Nick Robinson on BBC Radio 4’s Today programme, the 16-year-old climate change activist Greta Thunberg said the disorder helps her see things in “black and white”.

“It makes me different, and being different is a gift, I would say”, she told Robinson.

“It also makes me see things from outside the box. I don’t easily fall for lies, I can see through things.”

Thunberg added that if she had “been like everyone else”, she wouldn’t have started a school strike last year.

In August 2018, Thunberg started to skip school on Fridays to protest about climate change outside Sweden’s parliament with a hand-written sign that read “SCHOOL STRIKE FOR CLIMATE”. The teenager did not return to school until the Swedish general election on 9 September.

“I don’t think I would be interested in the climate at all, if I had been like everyone else”, she continued.

“Many people say that it doesn’t matter, you can cheat sometimes. But I can’t do that. You can’t be a little bit sustainable. Either you’re sustainable, or not sustainable.”

The activist, who has been nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize this year, also opened up about how climate change made her “very depressed” at the age of 11.

“It had a lot to do with the climate and ecological crisis. I thought everything was just so wrong and nothing was happening and there’s no point in anything”, she told Robinson.

However, the teenager said that she felt inspired to help bring awareness to the “existential crisis” when she realized she could make a difference in the world.

Thunberg’s quotes came ahead of her meeting in the UK with Westminster leaders including Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, Liberal Democrat Sir Vince Cable, and Green MP Caroline Lucas.

On Sunday, Greta told Extinction Rebellion protesters in London that they were “making a difference”.

She was welcomed with cheers as took to the stage in Marble Arch on the seventh day of the demonstration.

“For way too long the politicians and people in power have got away with not doing anything at all to fight the climate crisis and ecological crisis”, she said.

“But we will make sure that they will not get away with it any longer.”

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 5:31 pm
by manfred
All that shouting "CO2" must produce a lot of extra CO2. Plants need it grow. Animals, including people, breath it out. It is natural and very useful. This tax on CO2 is really getting quite mad. I recently got a proposal sent in the post saying I could pay some extra for my electricity, and only get electricity from "green" sources. I though that was hilarious and rang them up, asking if I need to get new wires, and how they would make sure that my nice clean electricity would not get contaminated by that dirty stuff my neighbours use, it is all arrives in the same wire from the street outside. They put the phone down on me.

In London you need to pay a CO2 tax if you want to drive in the centre with an older car or even moped. £12.50 a day. That is in addition to £11.50 "congestion charge". So, of you ride an older moped to work, not even a car, a tiny 50 cc engine, you pay £24 a DAY. That would fill the tank 4 times.

That is why London has the most expensive fares for public transport anywhere in Europe. They can charge more because the alternatives to using them are made impossible.

So far I not yet seen any compelling evidence for any GLOBAL HUMAN MADE climate change at all. But this new climate religion is seen as bery useful by politicians to raise money.

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 7:56 pm
by Ariel
manfred wrote: I though that was hilarious and rang them up, asking if I need to get new wires, and how they would make sure that my nice clean electricity would not get contaminated by that dirty stuff my neighbours use, it is all arrives in the same wire from the street outside. They put the phone down on me.


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The Netherlands is going completely gas-free in the future. And that is going to be very costly. Out of 8 million Dutch households, 7 million are currently connected to the gas network in Groningen.

House owners have to buy solar boilers, biomass boilers, or pellet stoves to warm their houses. That all because we must not produce CO2.

Holland is a tiny dot on this earth, but mind you, we are going to save the climate.

:sly: You will see.

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:17 pm
by manfred
This of course also worth mentioning.... The CO2 release of the WHOLE of Europe is 10% of all CO2 released. When you are making big sacrifices you expect big results. There cannot be any. China and India will out-compete us, as we slowly return to the stone age. But as long as the little girl in Sweden is happy I guess it must be worth it.

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2019 9:56 pm
by Takeiteasynow
It's almost impossible to relate all CO2 emissions and thus climate change to human activity. Simply because there is not enough data to make any sound judgement.

Let's take look for instance at the argument that volcanoes can only influence climate over a short period, achieved through the injection of sulfate aerosols into the high reaches of the atmosphere during sporadic eruptions. The issue here is that most volcanoes, over 95%, are situated under water, erupt continuously and cause enormous thermodynamic activities. Under the North Pole multiple chains of volcanoes produce heated water columns that rise to 15 meters under the surface - that would be an excellent explanation why Greenland's ice melts on the western and northern side. And don't forget that the MSM stopped reporting on Antarctica's peninsula ice loss after the discovery that it is surrounded by a ring of underwater volcanoes.

There's no generic data on thermodynamic activities caused by movements in Earth's outer shell. If it was available I suspect that the Climate Change religion would die instantly.

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:23 am
by Ibn Rushd
There's a book that is in high demand in my library, called "Climate Change the Facts: 2017" (there are others from previous years). It's an edited book from Australia, and one chapter is devoted to the Moon. Phases of the Moon, oscillation of distance from the Earth, etc. all match with temperature records found in ice cores and tree rings. It mentioned briefly that the planets are also involved. I've heard it elsewhere too, that Jupiter and Saturn influence our weather. All very interesting.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:31 am
by Takeiteasynow
I once saw a documentary on how Jupiter's gravity is tugging on its moon Europa's outer ice crust, like the Brexit is tugging on the upcoming EU elections.

Now everything on earth feels the gravity of the moon and it's much more than tidal waves. You have something like "Earth tide", the displacement of the solid earth's surface caused by the gravity of the Moon and Sun. Volcanologists expect that these tides may also trigger volcanic events or influence currents or delicate balances under earth's crust which could trigger changes in under water eruptions and thermodynamic activities and cause (long term) climate changes.

Re: Greta Thunberg

PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2019 10:09 am
by Fernando
manfred wrote:In London you need to pay a CO2 tax if you want to drive in the centre with an older car or even moped. £12.50 a day. That is in addition to £11.50 "congestion charge". So, of you ride an older moped to work, not even a car, a tiny 50 cc engine, you pay £24 a DAY. That would fill the tank 4 times.
If you drive around London in an electric car, chances are that the electricity has come from a power station burning gas anyway. A similar argument applies to hydrogen as fuel, too.
British Steel is on the verge of bankruptcy and is asking for millions from the government...to pay it's CO2 levy! How much CO2 levy do its Chinese dumping competitors pay? Where will the steel and CO2 come from if British Steel goes bust - China!
I'm not a warming sceptic but I do think there should be a level playing field - and I do think politicians should keep their mouths shut unless they know what they are talking about. It's very sloppy thinking if they confuse air pollution with CO2. They'll be blaming all that nitrogen next!

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 11:51 am
by manfred


This says it all...

An interesting aspect of this is that her parents use the SAME logic Mohammed used.... "She can name all the capitals of all the countries." "She can recite the periodic table." THIS PROVES that she can see CO2 with the naked eye.

This is exactly like Mohammed's "clear proofs".

The surprising thing is that people in Sweden, or some of them, are really that daft....

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2019 8:16 pm
by Ariel
It seems that many people in Sweden are mad as a hatter . :ohmy: I am glad some schoolgirls in Sweden use their common sense.

Swedish schoolgirl who refused to take part in one of campaigner Greta Thunberg's 'climate strikes' is 'bullied by her own teacher' and labelled a 'climate denier'

A Swedish teacher and her students allegedly bullied another pupil when she refused to skip school and participate in a climate protest.

The so-called 'schools strike for climate' movement was started in August 2018 by Greta Thunberg, a 15-year-old Swedish climate activist.

The high school management encouraged its students to take part.

All but of one of the students were eager to join in, according to magazine Det Goda Samhället.

When the child said she did not wish to participate, the teacher became agitated and lectured her in front of the classroom that she should 'think through her decisions carefully', the magazine says.

Other students of the class then accused her of being a 'climate denier'. The girl’s mother blames the teacher for inciting classroom bullying, and said she felt scared of how angry and uneasy the atmosphere quickly turned.

She said that while her daughter enjoys school, 'she does not think the school strike is the right way to go about climate problems’.

The mother added that her daughter hadn’t been ‘very loud about it’, but simply said that she did not want to join the strike.

After feeling that the school ‘stigmatised’ her daughter, the mother proceeded to call the school’s administration. She herself was then questioned by the principal.

The principal explained that her daughter ‘went against the rest of the class and refused to participate in something this positive' and told the mother she had the wrong attitude herself.

The girl’s mother compares the situation to ‘mass hysteria’ and said that the treatment her daughter received was ‘totally sick’.

‘If you do not hang out on Greta Thunberg and for the climate then you should be singled out and bullied’, she said.

The young girl has been refusing to go back to school because of concerns that the other students and teacher might continue to bully her.

While her mother does not forgive the school for how they treated her daughter, she feels that there is a more appropriate way to go about it.

They should at least be neutral and respect the students who do not want to skip school. There must be different ways we can relate to political issues’, she explained.

The schoolgirl’s mother believes that it is pressure from the media and politicians that have caused the school to act in the way it did.

‘You must panic for climate threats. Everything else is wrong. It doesn’t take much to be a climate denier. It is pure witch hunt’, she said.

Greta Thunberg is a climate activist with Asperger syndrome who rose to international fame for her weekly ‘school strikes’ outside of the Swedish parliament house.

Hundreds of thousands of students in over a hundred countries across the globe have followed the young girl's example.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:51 pm
by Ariel
Lucky America. Is she going to meet Trump ? And does the little one knows that also a transatlantic cruise ship has a carbon footprint.

But perhaps she is going to sail . We have to be patience . One day we shall know.

Teen climate change campaigner Greta Thunberg to take year off school for US trip

Teenage climate change activist Greta Thunberg will take a year out of school and travel to the US to continue her campaign to promote environmental protection, RT.com reports.

The teen kicked off the hugely popular ‘school strike’ movement last year for kids to push their elders into taking a serious stand to tackle the devastating effects of climate change and safeguard their future.

Millions of schoolchildren around the world have marched or held events as part of the movement.

Thunberg, 16, told Swedish outlet Dagens Nyheter that it was a difficult decision to take more time off school, but that while her education won’t suffer by being delayed for a year, fast action is crucial in tackling climate change.

As part of her commitment to the cause of reducing carbon emissions, Thunberg does not travel by plane. Accepting an invite to the UN’s special climate change meeting in New York in September means a lengthy transatlantic voyage ahead, so she’s decided to take a sabbatical year to make the journey.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:21 pm
by manfred
What should happen if she misses school every Friday, clearly without authority, such as for dialysis treatment or the like, then she parents should be fined for allowing her to skip school. If that does not resolve it, she be placed in care, and sent to a boarding school.

Suppose you skip work one day every week for climate protest.... would you seriously expect to keep your job? Attendance of school is not voluntary, and parents who help or condone their children to truant are a case for social services, and in the end for the courts, who would have to revoke their parental control. This is a form of abuse, and should be dealt with. This girl will have many of her opportunities in life hampered.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2019 11:21 pm
by Fernando
And with all those burgers the children are eating whilst skiving, the climate will warm another degree every Friday!

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:00 pm
by Ariel
The Education of Greta Thunberg: Naivety Meets Reality for the Teen Climate Alarmist

Since she first stood alone in front of the Swedish parliament last August protesting insufficient action in fighting climate change, 16-year-old Greta Thunberg has literally become the poster child for a worldwide student movement. Holding a "school strike for climate change" sign, the then 15-year-old said she was refusing to attend classes until Swedish politicians acted.

Her actions led last week to an estimated one million or more students in over 100 countries to boycott classes to prompt what they say is urgent action needed to reign in harmful climate change.

“We are facing the biggest crisis humanity has ever faced,” said Ms. Thunberg. “If your house is on fire, you don’t sit down to talk about it. I want people to panic.”

She did admit that “I am not a scientist. I don’t have the proper education.” She is quite correct in that regard. It is not just that she is blissfully ignorant of many climate facts, but what she does supposedly know is just so wrong. If she were to return to the classroom, her lessons should serve to calm her fears.

For example, in Science class she would learn that worldwide surface measurements reveal that, while the planet is in the midst of a warming trend of several hundred years, the Earth has not warmed at all since she was born. Her teachers could also assure her that our current temperatures are not at all unusual nor unprecedented, but very similar to previous warming trends over the last several thousand years.

Moving on to Biology class, she could explore how plants rely on carbon dioxide (CO2) as the basic building block in the process of photosynthesis. She would find that, rather than being a pollutant, CO2 is fueling plant growth and that an increase in this gas is leading to higher crop productivity and a “greening” of the Earth.

Later in the morning, she would join her classmates for History lessons. There, a review of human life dating back to the earliest of the great civilizations would reveal that the several previous warming periods (called climate optima) directly correlated to fantastic periods of human prosperity and advances. Ms. Thunberg would have to unlearn what she has been told about the theoretical dangers of increasing temperature, as actual experience clearly would show her that the cold periods were associated with famine, pestilence and mass depopulation.

During Health class, she would find that she has been incredibly misled about the health implications of rising temperatures. Contrary to what her handlers have told her, the real killer is cold, not heat. As many as 20 times as many people die around the globe from cold-related issues as from heat. Rising temperatures will save lives.

While still in Health class, her teachers could provide the students with information on one of the biggest pollution-related killers: the indoor air pollution associated with stoves and fires inside homes. Replacing the wood- and dung-fired stoves in homes with the clean-burning fossil fuels that Greta so dislikes would reduce the estimated 1.6 million people who die every year from the associated respiratory illnesses.

Finally, in her Economics class, she might learn that the fossil fuels that she wants to ban are providing reliable, abundant and affordable energy to the planet’s growing population. Her teacher might also tell the class that the poorest pay the highest percentage of their meager incomes for energy, so the higher energy costs associated with the renewable energy would harm those unfortunates the most.

I am quite sure that Ms. Thunberg has a big heart and wants the best for Earth and humanity, but it is time for her to go back to school to learn what she doesn’t know and to unlearn so much of what she has been taught.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:56 pm
by Fernando
Finally, in her Economics class, she might learn that the fossil fuels that she wants to ban are providing reliable, abundant and affordable energy to the planet’s growing population.
What no teacher will dare to tell her, though, is that the first step to be taken should be to stop the growth of the world's population. If the bath is overflowing, turn the tap off.

Re: Greta Thunberg and the climate change

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:32 pm
by Ariel
Dr. Greta! Unbelievable. Belgian university will honour Greta Thunberg with an honorary doctorate from the University of Mons :clueless:

Teen cimate defender Greta Thunberg will receive an honorary doctorate from the University of Mons, alongside British economist Nicholas Terne and former French minister Nicolas Hulot, the university announced on Thursday. The three will receive their doctoral diploma and insignia at the official opening of the university’s 2019-2020 academic year on October 10.

Thunberg, Hulot and Stern have been selected for the award because of their contribution, each in their own way, to raising awareness on sustainable development.

Swedish 16-year-old Thunberg is a climate activist, who drew global attention to her cause by going on a school strike to demand political action on climate change, and sparking similar student strikes throughout the world.

Stern is an expert on the climate problem in economics, and Hulot is France’s former environmental minister who, frustrated with his government’s environmental policies, resigned from his position last year.

The ceremony, to be held at the Royal Theatre of Mons, will mark the start of festivities linked to the 10th anniversary of the creation of the university, which resulted from the merger, in 2009, between the Université de Mons-Hainaut and the Faculté Polytechnique de Mons.

The new Honorary Doctors will now become part of a strong tradition of openness of mind, creativity and freedom of thought.