Hey Indians not all of your ancestors are white skinned Arya

[Nosuperstition]

https://www.google.co.in/search?q=some+of+the+Ajanta+and+ellora+cave+paintings&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiTrrHqlPXUAhVJrI8KHQ_0AtoQsAQINg&biw=1440&bih=791

Fair skinned people of India seem to identify more so with whites and not with the majority black tribals of India.During the existence of pagan Rome,deals were made by subcontinental kings as part of which white slaves were given to the harems of subcontinental kings.The book periplus of the Earythrian sea authored by pagan author of Rome named Pliny mentions the same about Bharuch of modern day Gujarat in India.And the trade of white girls to Middle East ceased once whole of Europe became Christian.Christians too just like muslims believe in the concept of brotherhood of faith and would not give their white girls to you in general.So stop going to wars with your Asian neighbours at their behest.

Muslims too had many harems in medieval India where they kept many white slaves.Since rapine of Hindu women was common in medieval times,that way too fair skin might have spread a lot.

[Nosuperstition]

People in the olden days considered wars as ways of disposing off excess population.So who knows ,might be a war with China is a means of disposing off surplus Dravidian population in India that came into existence due to the Green revolution.

[manfred]

NS, you really are one strange dude....

Why would it matter what colour skin anyone's ancestors have? What next, not all grandma's have problems with ingrown toenails?

You really need to get away from the race thing, it seems to occupy a lot of your time. And not a lot of rulers EVER thought, hey my cities are getting a bit crowded, let's start a war... Wars are dreadful things, and a sign of all round human failure. They bring only death and suffering, and rarely much else. Sometimes a war is a necessary evil though, as not fighting the war would bring even worse things.

BTW... as skin colour fascinates you so, here is a rather hilarious, useless fact:

ALL the eunuchs in the Ottoman court were always black Africans. Why? The sultans knew that sometimes a castration would be botched or not carried at all, because the person who is supposed to do it got attacks of bad conscience. As Muslims themselves were not keen on doing the deed, the forced Coptic Christians, preferably priests, to castrate the slaves. You can imagine it was not something people did gladly for their tyrants. So some "eunuchs" always "slipped though" the process, some intentionally, some because the man supposed to do it was not competent in such things, or sometimes, when a man gets very frightened his testes recede into the body, (you get a similar effect if you suddenly jump into some cold water...) , enough to fool an inexperienced or unwilling "surgeon".

So the "black only" rule was for a very simple reason: Should any woman in the harem get pregnant, the skin colour of the baby gave away the father.

[Hombre]

People in the olden days considered wars as ways of disposing off excess population.So who knows ,might be a war with China is a means of disposing off surplus Dravidian population in India that came into existence due to the Green revolution.

Yeah, wars are means for population control - as long as your family and loved ones are not included

[Nosuperstition]

NS, you really are one strange dude....

Why would it matter what colour skin anyone's ancestors have? What next, not all grandma's have problems with ingrown toenails?

You really need to get away from the race thing, it seems to occupy a lot of your time.

Why I hardly ever think of skin color except when I am forced to.For that matter it is Indians themselves who are a lot color conscious.For example in almost every matrimonial ad,you come across people advertising themselves either as fair skinned persons of so and so caste or that they need fair skinned partners of the same caste or both.So this thing has not been erased in the collective consciousness of Indians and continues to be in vogue even today.

And some say caste is actually an endogamous tribal group / entity that precedes the arrival of Hinduism while others say it is an endogamous entity formed after arrival of Hinduism based on occupations.Whatever may be the truth,fact of the matter is same word 'jaati' is used for denoting both caste and nation in Sanskrit. Jaati literally means that which is by birth.So how the greater idea of one nation of India took place while lesser nations/castes of Hinduism still exist in conservative fashion is another question that boggles my mind.

[Nosuperstition]

According to what has been written in the book about Nostradamus by Stephen Paul/Stephen Paulus,Chengiz Khan had this brilliant strategy of disposing off those that are least loyal to him.For example people of territory A were forcibly conquered by him.Then in his next conquest he would use the young men of territory 'A' as the soldiers of front ranks.They would then be the first to get killed just like King David got the Hittite Uriah killed before taking his wife Bathsheba for himself.I have vaguely heard that even the Russians of the U.S.S.R did the same in Afghanistan whereby they used soldiers from the muslim parts of Central Asia more often than Russians themselves.May be Brahmin think-tanks of Congress,B.J.P and the army top brass in India who consider Brahmins to be the core of India also want to dispose off excess low caste Dravidian people of India by waging a war with China.

[Fernando]

just like King Solomon got the Hittite Uriah killed before taking his wife Bathsheba for himself

Ah, so that's where Mohammed got the idea from!

[Nosuperstition]

just like King David got the Hittite Uriah killed before taking his wife Bathsheba for himself

Ah, so that's where Mohammed got the idea from!

It is a primitive form of tribal behaviour or the law of the jungle with the dictum 'might is right'.For example when one reads about gods making slaves of the wives of demons in the Hindu text of Matsya Purana,one may not believe it and might rubbish it as missionary propaganda.However well known story of Brahmin sage Parashuram using Brahmins to sire children to widows of slain arrogant Kshatriya dynasties then affirms the fact that in olden days when wars happened that is what they did to the leftover surplus women.So this phenomenon is an universal evil.

[Nosuperstition]

At this point, however, we should not overlook a puzzling episode in Hindu legend which describes a similar behaviour by a Hindu conqueror: Parashurama, deified as the 6th incarnation of Vishnu, killed all the adult male Kshatriyas for several generations, until only women were left, and then had Brahmins father a new generation upon them. Just a story, or reference to a historic genocide?

http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/irin/genocide.html

If we look at things realistically by assuming that miracles do not happen/that they are just fiction,then there is no way Parashurama could have done that to the meat eating Kshatriyas with the help of his fellow veggie Brahmins. That only proves correct various parts of the Hindu texts of different eras referring to animal sacrifices being offered to gods by Brahmins themselves who later ate those offerings.

Many Hidtava and Aryasamjis, harekrishna idiots etc. believe that there were no animal sacrifices mentioned in Vedas.

They all believe that sacrifice was symbolical. No animal was killed. Rama and Dasarath went hunting but actually didnt kill anything or didnt eat meat.Like Moghul of this forum they interprete each and every word of Rigved in their own way.

Only Swami Vivekanand (among reformists) admitted animal sacrifices of bygone ages. He told people that modern day hindus should not eat meat beacuse the belief had changed.

viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15499&p=204686&hilit=sacrifice#p204686

Vivekananda seemed to have confirmed what Ambedkar said regarding animal sacrifices of bygone eras in Hinduism before Jainism and Buddhism forced it to leave behind those practices.

[Nosuperstition]

If I am correct G.D.P of China is nearly 5 times bigger than that of India.China's G.D.P is said to be around 13.5 trillion dollars while that of India is just around 3.5 trillion dollars.Chinese administration is a lot less corrupt and the country has a lot more natural resources than India.If ever a fierce all out war breaks out between the two,India stands to lose more than China.If ever the economy is derailed severely anarchy will be let loose on Indian streets.Looting and dacoity will be common in periods of severe economic turmoil.And it is said that the same people who glorified the French general Napoleon Bonaparte due to his victories handed him over to his enemies after the defeat of the French troops at the battle of Waterloo.Similarly people who voted the Italian dictator Mussolini to power themselves hanged him when Italy was defeated in WW II.So one cannot expect absolute unswerving loyalty of people to prevail always.The U.S itself took trillions of dollars of loans from China to wage wars in the Middle East , so you cannot be expect them to bail out India.There is a saying in Telugu 'aaku velli mulluku guchhukunna,mullu velli aakuku guchhukunna,aakuke nashtam'(If a thorn gets pierced by a leaf or if a leaf gets pierced by a thorn,the loss will always be that of the leaf and not the thorn.So until you too become a thorn,it is better to bide your time.

[Nosuperstition]

I see Modi's psycho cum arrogant nature in his eyes.That nature seems not to get satisfied until it puts all the people of India under the tremendous pain of economic turmoil.

[Nosuperstition]

The Texican of the Old Forum said that even if the U.S defaults on Chinese loans,what can the Chinese do about it?However India does not have such an option.It has to pay back whatever loans it has both pre and post the war with China that is looming large.Better not to burden future generations with unnecessary loans to satiate your inflated egoes.Worth remembering that the Indian subcontinent was conquered by the British by loaning huge amounts to warring rival kingdoms and after making them to default on their loans.The same strategy was applied by the Romans in their Empire thereby which they could confiscate large estates of land of native Celts.

[Nosuperstition]

Success has many friends but failure none.It will be better if Mr.Modi remembers this dictum.

[Nosuperstition]

Remember how your ancestors lost to muslims as three powerful dynasties of North,the East and that of South and Central India battled one another,exhausted their resources and got divided up into miniscule kingdoms that were an easy meal.Now if India and China go for a full fledged war both might have to empty their arsenals completely and as a result India might become weak enough for an onslaught by Pakistan and China for the U.S.A.Of course this speculation excludes the all out nuke scenario.

[Nosuperstition]

For more than 350 to 400 years,the Pratihara dynasty of North India,the Pala dynasty of Bengal and the Chalukya dynasty of Central and South India battled one another while simultaneously keeping muslims at bay in the Indian subcontinent.Finally they exhausted their resources,small kingdoms came into being which were an easy meal for outsider Muslim invasions.If India and China want to repeat that history,they can go ahead.

[Nosuperstition]

on the internet I have read a prominent Chinese religious figure asked Kublai Khan,possibly son of the famous Chengiz Khan not to overrun India populated by millions as it was the sacred land of Buddhists.So did Kublai Khan heed to him?Is that the reason why Mongols did not carry on latter day large scale invasions of the populous sub-continent while even Europeans went for it?

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=17790&p=235040&hilit=Kublai+Khan#p235040

India and China historically share the same cultural values of Buddhism.That is the reason why the Chinese monks abstain from eating meat and Indian Brahmin clergy of today also strictly adheres to vegetarianism.You can see the same in the film Crouching Tiger-Hidden dragon where the heroine speaks low of a monk for eating meat.

The extensive meat eating practives prevalent amongst the Chinese as on today is more so due to the cultural revolution of Mao as well as due to the severe famine that hit China in 1970s as a result of which seemingly strange practices of eating dogs and cats came into being.

Vinaasa Kaaley Vipareeta Buddhi is a popular saying in Sanskrit.It means that when the time for destruction arrives,you mind will become extremist in its thoughts and attitudes.'poye kaalam vaste taade paamai karustaadanta' a popular saying in Telugu meaning that when the time to go arrives,even the rope will become a snake and will bite you.

If India and China exhaust their massive reserves of fire power over flimsy causes in any war with one another,they will be an easy meal to those that invade them after the immediate innovation of anti-nuke technology.

[Nosuperstition]

My father said to me that in a famine of his childhood,they received baby food powder from the U.S.A which they ate collectively at a nearby hill.China being Communist during Mao's tenure received no such help.Hence all the seemingly bizarre habits of eating dogs and cats would have come into being in China.Due to cultural revolution those habits seemed to have got carried forward until now.And to be frank one Telugu film about a famine and Hindu sage Rishyasringa also potraits very unpleasant scenarios even in the subcontinent in situations of famine.Before modern dams were constructed , due to the non-perennial nature of rivers,famines were also common in South India as a result of which the fat belly came as a natural mutation adaptation to store excess energy per Darwin's theory.

And to be frank being celibate veggie monks as is the case with Chinese monks is far more difficult than just being veggie householders as is the case in Hinduism.When you have a family of your own you mostly cease to be impartial and will act and interpret religious texts in ways that would lessen the risk of income loss for your own family.So do not fall for the social media propaganda that shows the Chinese in complete poor light.

[Nosuperstition]

And regards to the Chinese using used condoms to manufacture harmful toys of kids and creating harmful plastic rice and dumping them both in India,I would like to remember Chanakya , the Sikh forum member from old forum mentioning about harmful adulterated edible oil being sold by immoral traders in India with a complete eye on profit and with an utter lack of concern for those that consume it and deaths due to the same.Crooks exist everywhere and the Chinese are no exception.

[Nosuperstition]

I have recently seen a Telugu news program in T.V where they showed crooks from the old city of Hyderabad use animal fat etc to manufacture oil and then sell that unhealthy oil as edible oil by neatly packaging it in packs with brand names of quite famous brands.So it does indeed happen in reality in India.

[Nosuperstition]

Showcasing fried dogs and cats about to be sold in Chinese markets is no more gruesome or grisly than Suttee sacrifice of the widow in the bygone eras.Or it is no more gruesome than hanging flesh of any animal in the market.You too are acting like the English who indulged in propaganda and made a huge issue about the small number of widow sacrifices in India in order to further their colonial agenda.