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Postby Nosuperstition » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:40 pm

But there is another story from Aitereya Brahmana which I have read in the Chandamama books in my childhood.In it the Brahmin Rishis insult and keep away from a fire ritual another sage born of union between a Brahmin sage and a non-Brahmin mother.In his childhood his own father does not bestow knowledge of the Vedic rituals to him as he is not of pure Brahmin descent.The Saraswati river then splits on her own and washes the feet of that mixed breed sage to prove his piousness.Needless to say that if this fiction of river splitting and washing the feet of the mixed breed rishi or sage is filtered out,one can extract facts of history which is that Brahmins did indeed marry non-Brahmin ladies once upon a time discarding the much adhered to concept of avoiding Varna Sankaram or mixing of castes/classes.


http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=14593

In the version of the story that I have read,when the mixed breed boy laments before his mother at the fact that his father is averse to teaching him the holy rites of religion ,she confesses to him that she is from the hard-working or hard toiling peasant caste while his father was a Brahmin and that could be the reason why he does not teach him religion.She then tells the boy that Mother Earth is highly knowledgeable and asks him to attain divine powers by worshipping and observing her.
The boy follows his mother's instructions and thus becomes quite pious.

Now across the internet we frequently come across a Satapatha Brahmana verse that says that gods/goddesses commune only through Brahmins.Then how is it that according to this myth from Aitereya Brahmana,the goddess Mother Earth divined through the mixed breed sage?Afterall the seed(semen) no longer belongs to the seed giver(man) and it instead belongs to the land into which it is ploughed(the woman) according to Hindu texts.Meaning that even if the father is the Brahmin,the offspring will always belong to the caste of the mother.

And afterall,in the Mahabharatha,Dhritarashtra and Pandu were known as Kshatriyas even though the were born of Niyog system of intercourse with supposedly Brahmin sage Veda Vyasa.And traditionally the offspring of Brahmins and Shudra Nair women were always considered belonging to Nair caste in Kerala.So one Brahmana text says that divination is possible only through Brahmins and another says that divinities also commune thorough people of other castes.So perhaps divination itself does not exist.
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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Jan 31, 2016 8:28 am

In my childhood before their 5th standard,my elder brother and his friends G.Kiran and Sudhir(all the three were non-Brahmins) discussed about what Buddha said about not consuming meat(Buddha is also an incarnation of God Vishnu in Hinduism,even though Brahmanism rejects his teachings as an illusion perpetrated on the demon kings).They thought of it to be a noble idea worth practicing.My brother got caned in the home for refusing to eat meat and it was forcibly shoved down his throat.I have later heard that G.Kiran became a goon in that locality(which implies that for the sake of physical fitness,he must have consumed meat).Only shows that people are not compassionate not based on caste or only by birth but also by means of upbringing and circumstances.Their conduct changes per needs.For example Ambika Singh's favourite Brahmin student Parthasaarathi of my brother's class was known in his school days for being extremely soft,yet in his classes X and XII,he is said to have resorted to violence to combat his tormenting goons classmates.Once again this shows that circumstances change your behavior and caste alone cannot predetermine it.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:27 pm

The new Mahabharat of Star Plus available on the site hotstar has so many key differences with the Mahabharat of my childhood that any casual observer will find them out.So while people have no qualms in trying to shake the beliefs of others,they want their beliefs to remain immune.Go ye hypocrite fascists,lie and bash to your heart's content.

(Star Plus is a channel owned by Westerners)
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Postby Chiclets » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:11 pm

Nosuperstition wrote:The new Mahabharat of Star Plus available on the site hotstar has so many key differences with the Mahabharat of my childhood that any casual observer will find them out.So while people have no qualms in trying to shake the beliefs of others,they want their beliefs to remain immune.Go ye hypocrite fascists,lie and bash to your heart's content.

(Star Plus is a channel owned by Westerners)


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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Nosuperstition » Wed Apr 13, 2016 4:42 pm

Chiclets wrote:
Nosuperstition wrote:The new Mahabharat of Star Plus available on the site hotstar has so many key differences with the Mahabharat of my childhood that any casual observer will find them out.So while people have no qualms in trying to shake the beliefs of others,they want their beliefs to remain immune.Go ye hypocrite fascists,lie and bash to your heart's content.

(Star Plus is a channel owned by Westerners)


Sulliga, kuch bhi bolta rehta kya re bad cow :lotpot:


As part of their training, Bhishma asks the children to eat without bending their elbows.


http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/training-the-princes/1000011803

How they do it can be seen from the above video as well as the below one.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/draupadis-sons-seek-blessings/1000011948

Now that story to the best of my knowledge does not exist in Hindu myth books.It is something adapted by the Serial producers from the Jewish descriptions of Heaven and Hell.Western society is supposedly based on Judeo-Christian ethics,isn't it?

If you want I can also give the lengthy list of the observed differences between in the Mahabharat stories of the above series,the ones of my childhood and the ones I got to know in the Telugu Chandamaama children's book stories.
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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Nosuperstition » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:03 pm

var, Kuntibhoj informs the kings that whoever answers Kunti's question will win her hand


http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/kunti-hides-her-past-from-pandu/1000011785

Actually in the version that I read somewhere between my 6th and 7th standards,Kunti marries Pandu after being enamoured of his physical beauty and not due to answering some question.Pandu literally means one who is white.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/the-cursed-pandu/1000011799

In the above version,they showed cursed Pandu having sex with Madri in a flower garden similar to those in the beautiful Kashmir Valley.However,in the version I read Pandu was aroused when Madri was having a bath near a waterfall made sex with her and dropped dead as a result of Kindam's curse.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/eklavya-gifts-his-right-thumb/1000011812

In the version shown above Arjun is horrified/petrified or whatever when Ekalavya cuts off his thumb.However in the Telugu version that I read,it is Arjun himself who complains to Dronacharya about his promise being nullified due to presence of Ekalavya who shows far more prowess in archery than Arjun and it is said that after Ekalavya gifted his thumb,Arjun walked off with Drona conversing happily with his teacher.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/the-pandavas-dig-a-tunnel/1000011848

In the above version,Pandavas come to know about the plot to burn them alive in the last moment and dig a tunnel.However in the version that I have read,they know well in advance about the plot to burn them alive and had already dug a tunnel to reach safety.

Also they themselves set afire the lac house even before Purochan and his family plan to set it on fire.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/43 ... 1000011849

In the version,a druken tribal lady and her five sons sleep in that house set on fire and people mistakenly assume them to be of the Pandavas and their mother being burnt alive.Bhishma does not think that they are dead because he stumbled upon their weapons.Rather it is the dead corpses that makes people think that the Pandavas along with their mother were burnt alive.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/draupadi-emerges-from-the-fire/1000011852

In the above version,it is shown that Drupad angrily throws his offerings into the sacred fire as a result of which Draupadi is born.However in the version that I read,it is sages Yaj and Upayaj who when angered by the words of Drupad's wife throw offerings into fire as a result of which Drishtadyumna and Draupadi are born.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/takshak-attacks-the-pandavas/1000011891

Now in this version,the snakes attack Pandavas and their people for trying to colonise their habitat.However in the version that I have read in my childhood,Pandavas are never attacked by snakes and it is only Arjun who with Krishna's help burns down the Khandava forest of the snakes etc at the request of the fire god.The fire god is said to have drunk too much ghee in one of the fire rituals as a result of which it caused indigestion to him(man even gods have this problem of indigestion).Brahma then tells the fire god that consuming the Khandava forest full of valuable medicinal herbs will cure his indigestion.However that forest has the protection of Indra.Whenever the fire god tries to consume it with his forest fire,Indra is said to douse the flames.With Arjuna's and Krishna's help the fire god defeats Indra and consumes the forest and gets cured.

Out of gratitude,the fire god grants Arjuna ,the Gandeeva bow which was used by the moon good in the previous wars between the gods and demons in order to defeat the demons.However in the above version,the Gandeeva bow is manufactured by the fire god himself with the consumed the illusion of Mayasura in the Khandava forest.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/takshak-steals-the-pandavas-cows/1000011897

In the above version,Arjun enters the room of Yudhisthir and Draupadi when he is not supposed to enter their chamber in order to fetch the Gandeeva bow in order bring back the cows they , the Pandavas themselves received from Indraprastha for the sake of city foundation laying ceremony.However in the version that I read,those cows are not theirs but of a Brahmin in their city who seeks their retrieval not from Takshak but from their thieves.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/43 ... 1000011898

In the above version,Arjun says he would never kill a serpent.However in the version that I read,Arjun cuts off the tail of serpent Takshak in order to make him fall prey to the fire god,Agni.He also kills Takshak's wife.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/arjun-and-subhadra-get-married/1000011902

In the above version,Subhadra and Arjun get married in the presence of Balram,Subhadra's elder sistor.However in the version that I have read,Arjun and Subhadra get married in the absence of Balram,when he is off to a nearby cliff attending a religious ceremony.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/durvasa-visits-yudhishthir/1000011930

In the above version,Durvasa speaks to Krishna after Krishna's miracle.In the version that I have read,Durvasa does not even come anywhere near the abode of the Pandavas in the forest.As soon as their stomach get filled in,they runaway from the river where they had the baths.
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http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/43 ... 1000011938[/url]

In the above version of fight everyone backs off peacefully when Bhisma urges them to do so.However in the original version,Arjuna makes all the other warriors loose consciousness with his moorchastra.Also Duryodhan speaks in the above version that the period of secret living of the Pandavas expired that evening itself whereas in the version that I know,it expires due to excess fortnight that comes once a while in some years.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/karna-gives-away-his-armour/1000011970

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/nakul-and-sahadev-treat-karna/1000011972

In the above version,Karna bleeds profusely when he cuts off the armor and the earrings with which he was born and which are firmly stuck onto his body.He then gets treated by Nakul and Sahadev.However in the version that I have read,Karna asks god Indra to see to it that his body does not bleed fatally while he cuts off his born armor and earrings that protect him no matter what.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/bhishma-surrenders-to-krishna/1000011989
http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/dronacharya-beheaded/1000012013

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/karna-versus-arjun/1000012020

In the above versions,Krishna is seen taking brainstorming sessions or tutions to Bhishma,Drona and Karna to make them give up their lives for fighting on the wrong side after freezing time.However this does not occur in the version that I have read.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/dronacharya-forms-a-chakravyuha/1000012002

In the above version the strategy was called chakravyuha or the wheel strategy.However most Hindus know it as Padma vyuha or the lotus strategy.Are the wheel and the lotus one and the same?

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/draupadis-humiliation-is-avenged/1000012016

In this version,Draupadi herself comes to the battlefield to drench her hair with Dushasana's blood.However in the Mahabharat of my childhood,Bheem takes the blood soaked hands to the camp and there avenges her humiliation.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/krishna-asks-arjun-to-kill-karna/1000012019

Here Karna is shown using the arrow with invocation of serpent god Takshak.In reality Karna invokes not Takshak but his son Aswasena who wanted revenge on Arjun for killing his mother in the Khandava forest.Also just in the previous episode to this one Krishna promises not use any tricks to save Arjuna's skin.However in this episode,his pushes the chariot down so that Arjun escapes the lethal snake invoked arrow.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/duryodhans-regret/1000012022

In the above version,Karna's last rites are performed by Arjuna.However in the version that I have seen in the T.V as a child,both Yudhisthir and Duryodhan contest to perform Karna's last rites with Duryodhan finally getting the privilege.In some other versions,Krishna performs the last rites of Karna.
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http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/43 ... 1000012030[/url]

In the above version,Duryodhan's weakness is spotted after solving the riddle of Balram.However in the most authentic versions,Duryodhan's weakness is revealed to Bheem by Krishna himself without the mention of any riddles whatsoever.


http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/ashwathama-decides-to-kill-uttaras-unborn-baby/1000012032

The childhood Mahabharat version shows that Ashwathama first intended to kill Arjun/Pandavas with his Brahmastra.Uttara's unborn child was never his concern in the first place.After Arjuna also invokes the Brahmastra,it is Maharishi Vedavyas who stops those deadly weapons from clashing with one another.It is said that such a clash will release energy sufficient to burn down the entire world.It is at Veda Vyasa's behest that Arjuna takes back his Brahmastra while Aswathama who has no knowledge of taking it back but has the knowlege of diverting it ,diverts it to Uttara's womb.
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http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/43 ... 1000012033[/url]

In the above version,Uttara's unborn child Pareekshit is brought back to life by Krishna using all the pious merit he earned in his life.However in the Mahabharat of my childhood,Krishna takes away from Ashwathama,the gem on his forehead capable of miraculous healing and with its help brings back Pareekshit to life.

http://www.hotstar.com/tv/mahabharat/435/dhritarashtra-decides-to-kill-bheem/1000012034

In the above version,Bheem physically endures pain in the embrace of vengeful Dhritarashtra.However in the authentic versions,Krishna order a metal replica of Bheem to be placed first in front of the blind king.It is only after the king's anger is pacified after a while that the original Bheem is allowed to embrace Dhritarashtra.

With so many key events known as facts to many Hindus being changed to target Hindu fascism,there is no doubt that all these versions are not made available in Telugu.
However many millions would have viewed them and doubts would have definately risen in their minds.There is nothing wrong in removing Hindu fascism per these people logic but when I try to remove Christian fascism with quotes from the Bible,they get removed.Double standards speak for themselves.
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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Chiclets » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:22 pm

Nosuperstition wrote:
Chiclets wrote:
Nosuperstition wrote:The new Mahabharat of Star Plus available on the site hotstar has so many key differences with the Mahabharat of my childhood that any casual observer will find them out.So while people have no qualms in trying to shake the beliefs of others,they want their beliefs to remain immune.Go ye hypocrite fascists,lie and bash to your heart's content.

(Star Plus is a channel owned by Westerners)


Sulliga, kuch bhi bolta rehta kya re bad cow :lotpot:


Oree naino, bhesshma kahan se aa gaya mere jawab mein ?
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Postby manfred » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:28 pm

:nono1: The language of this forum is English. If you use any other language, you must provide the translation.
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Postby Chiclets » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:33 pm

manfred wrote::nono1: The language of this forum is English. If you use any other language, you must provide the translation.


Sorry folks, but I was only asking NS as to wtf he was talking, and he took my reply to Mahabharat, and again my reply was wtf.

Hope that translation helps, you know once you translate from one language to other, it loses its essence, just like Qurong :clueless:
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Postby manfred » Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:35 pm

I think this is some of several threads where NS leike to have looooong discussions with himself... To be honest I rarely read it I should I suppose.
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Postby M85 » Sun Apr 17, 2016 5:00 pm

manfred wrote:I think this is some of several threads where NS leike to have looooong discussions with himself... To be honest I rarely read it I should I suppose.

Nah, I wouldn't bother :sleeping:. Life is too short and there are so many more worthwhile things to do.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:51 pm

However the worst known records of mass slaughter in millions of Hindus killed exists in history as having been perpetrated by the Indo-Persian Bahmani dynasty.Shows that when bastardised,people are likely to identify themselves more with their rapist ancestors rather than with the victims.


viewtopic.php?f=4&t=15840&p=214642&hilit=Bahmani#p214642

I have read supposed Hinduwoman of FFI say that many muslim rulers in India were raised by Hindu nannies and hence they did not kill Hindus en-masse.

However the fact that the Bahmanis killed so many Hindus without any compunctions shows that the Bahmanis or other muslim rulers might have had Hindu nannies only when they were small in number.Once numbers became high,it is likely that just like the British they encouraged their muslim subjects to segregate themselves from Hindus,the Satan's people and then vigorously brainwashed their offspring so badly that they had no compunctions in exterminating entire natural populations of Hindus.

Perhaps by imposing Judeo-Christian fascism(by sending my posts exposing violence in these two religions straightaway to the garbage can),Faith Freedom Forum also might be in a position in future to enable mass murder of non-Judeo-Christian people.Fascism of all hues must be condemned not just Muslim fascism.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:20 pm

In the Mahabharat series of my childhood,king Virat dies on the battlefield at the hands of Drona. However ,in the recent series of Star Plus,they show him dying due to a barrage of stones in a surprise night attack far away from the battlefield.

In the Mahabharat story of my childhood,Madri commits violent Suttee,saying that she was responsible for seducing the cursed Pandu and hence would pay the price,Sati which is a sin expiation sacrifice.However,in the Mahabharat series of Star Plus,Madri dies a non-violent painless death of shock and grieving due to Pandu's death.

In the version I have known since my childhood,Karna abstains voluntarily by himself from battlefield for so long as Bhishma remains the commander-in-chief as he insulted him by giving him the status of half chariot warrior while he is entitled to the status of a full chariot warrior.However in the above version,he is ordered by Bhishma not to enter the battlefield at the behest of Kunti,his mother.

So it seems when it comes down to rattling fascism of Jews or Christians,there is zero tolerance in this forum seen only a select few while rattling fascism of millions of Hindus who have T.Vs in their homes is considered acceptable.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:58 am

It is said that in age of Kali yug,the power of Kali Purusha (the personification of darkness and utter evil per later Hindu traditions) will be manifested to such degree that even Gods come under its influence.God Shiva is said to have cut down one of the heads of God Brahma in anger due to influence of Kali per one of the Sthala Puranas of one of North Indian temples.

However during the British rule or immediately preceding it,Guru Raghavendra after performing pooja to Ram idol in famine hit Tanjore delta was able to bring down copious rains to the parched land.This happened in Kali yug itself.So even Gods are not exempt from the influence of Kali while a simple seer can perform miracles in the same age.The irony is not lost on me. :nono1: :nono1: :nono1:
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Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:48 am

Yohan wrote:Polythiest hard core Hindus do not like monothiestic 'Abrahamic religions' like Judaism, but they have a respect for Israel for the harsh treatment it metes out to Muslims, the eternal enemies of Hindus. They rejoice watching Israelis whipping the Muslims.


viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1764&p=26700&hilit=Abrahamic#p26700

It seems the main difference between polytheist Hindus and Buddhists and monotheists is the concept of 'deity shopping' as had been described by our scientist Radagast or Righteousness of the old forum.The same concept was elucidated upon by ohymrus in the thread 'Bring back that old time religion'/'death by secularism' thread when he said that monotheists have to accept the hard and fast rules set by their One and Only One God and have no room for leeway or being immoral by worshipping another god who suits their ambit of morality.

The monotheist God may be one from who all the dictates of morality and obidience follow,however when there is no fascism,monotheism cannot also boast about moral superiority as people can pick and choose whatever verses suit them.For example those that want to prostitute might look to the fact that God elevated Jephtah,son of prostitute as the king of Israel instead of stigmatising the whole family while those who are against might point to the verses of stoning adulterers etc to show that God does not approve of sexual immorality.

So the concept of lack of deity shopping alone sans fascism cannot make monotheism any better.
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Postby manfred » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:57 am

Buddhism does not strictly have ANY concept of a deity. You can be a Buddhist without believing in any god or gods, one god or many of them.The Buddhist folklore around deities is invariably treating a "god" as an personification of a human trait or some abstract concept. The point of Buddhist "god stories" is invariably some teaching quite independent of the character.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:42 am

The Buddhist folklore around deities is invariably treating a "god" as an personification of a human trait or some abstract concept.


Sometime back,in the newspapers I saw the Chinese potray 'compassionate' goddess on a stage.She was beautiful in all aspects of her jewellery and clothes,however she had big,big nails.Per modern day conceptions of Hindu demons,they are full black,stout with protruding tongue,jaws and big claw like nails.So that Chinese Buddhist compassionate goddess potrayal had one aspect of Hindu demonesses.

Now in addition to the fellow Ravi Kiran,my engineering classmate, when I told another friend of mine named Ravi of Telangaana of the same class about how Indra took the defeated women of the demons as right hand possessions and turned them into Apsaras or the celestial dancers,he refused to believe that story as per his concepts of demonesses,they cannot be beautiful.He was of average intellect unlike Ravi Kiran who was highly intellectual and understood that human beings in general feel the need for sex / right hand possessions when they fight wars in far off places without a family of their own and that story about Indra could have been about some God-King granting comfort women to his sex starved soldiers after victorious wars just as had happened in case of Japanese during WW II/just the British did during their colonisation of much of the world.

Even in Hinduism,the goddesses or gods are personification of a human trait or some abstract concept or forces of nature.For example Varuna is god of rains,Agni of fire(same as the root of Latin/Greek word ignite),Ganga of water,Vayu of wind,Saraswati of education and arts,Lakshmi of wealth,Kubera of wealth,Durga of power,Brahma of creation,Vishnu of preservation and Shiva of destruction.
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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Nosuperstition » Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:45 pm

http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=17233&p=230650&hilit=Chakrangadudu#p230650

Well one person's god or god on earth(Brahmin for example) might be another's demon.For example majority of Keralites consider their demon king Bali/Maha Bali,killed by Brahmin boy Vamana, a Vishnu incarnate to be benevolent.

And in the North coastal Andhra area,there was a Vishnu incarnate god king named Sreekakula Andhra Maha Vishnu.Now North Coastal Andhra seems to be the only area where fish,turtle and boar incarnations of the 10 incarnations of Vishnu are prominently worshipped.Nowhere else in India there seem to exist prominent temples to these incarnations of Vishnu,who in all the probability might be newly converted totem worshipping God-Kings of tribals.

The Aryans/Aryan Brahmins knew that these people are not of pure Aryan blood.Perhaps that is the reason why these God-Kings are called only partial incarnations of Vishnu while only Rama and Krishna get classified as poornavatars or full scale incarnations of Vishnu.

Now in the fish avatar,Vishnu slays the demon who stole the Vedas which were of help to Brahma in creating the worlds it seems.Now to me it seems to be an attempt at establishing fascism by not allowing the commoners access to holy books after having read which by their own,people can either pick and choose whatever suits them or make their own interpretations.For example in one of the Hindu holy texts,Daksha Prajapati curses God Shiva for giving the knowledge of the Vedas to non-Brahmins and Shiva along with his followers are then called heretics who interpret things their own way.

So even back then Hindus knew well of the fruits of heresy in a non-fascist environment which is spread of non-religiosity in the society.
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Re: No fascism = No religion

Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:18 pm

But once he handed over the Vishnu Dhanush to Rama, he realized that Rama was also an incarnation of Vishnu and that now the duty to preserve Dharma can be passed down to Rama. Parashurama left for performing tapasya as he knew that his duty was done. Parashurama did not think Rama as superior/inferior to him.


https://www.quora.com/Both-Ram-and-Parasuram-are-avatars-of-Vishnu-Then-how-could-Parasuram-accept-Rams-superiority-when-he-broke-Shivas-bow-Arent-they-both-one

The same question was asked when I was between my 6th and 10th standards in a spiritual column in a weekly magazine.Then his holiness Swamy Chinna Jeeyar replied that an incarnation of Vishnu means a person into whom the power of Vishnu had been passed down for accomplishment of specific roles.Once full Vishnu avatar of Rama absorbed the power of Vishnu in the partial Vishnu avatar of Parashuram as his role that is of Parashuram is completed,Parashuram simply left.

Worth noting that both the full incarnations of Vishnu namely Rama and Krishna are from North India.That does not mean that by default anyone from North will be made a full incarnation of Vishnu.For example Buddha was made only a partial avatar even though he hailed from North possibly because Hindu theologians did not like his message of egalitarianism and anti-Brahmanism.

,I heard the officiating priest possibly are equating the bridegroom with Vishnu and bride with his main consort Lakshmi.


http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=15101&p=213122&hilit=officiating#p213122

So might be Christians needn't kill all married Hindu couples as not all remain firmly faithful in their hearts and as pagan god Vishnu's power leaves those in whom its role is already accomplished.
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Postby Nosuperstition » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:14 pm

Now I have read many ghost story accounts in my childhood when ghosts continue their fights that began when they were warring with one another when they were humans.In Rajasthan,perhaps in Bhangarh,the armies of both Hindu Rajputs and muslim Mughals clash it seems even after death.Perhaps they both ingrained with so much hate against one other when they were alive that they continue with their fights even after death with hate tainted souls.Now that is in tune with what I felt with regards to rape and eternal hell when I first viewed eternal hell against the background of rape.I felt eternal hell somewhat justified against rapists.Perhaps when they say God made man in his image he also created so much hatred in them that they continue their hatred even after death.So where exactly do we see a loving God who loves human beings more than 100 times the love of a mother?
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