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Re: war rape

PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 3:52 am
by Nosuperstition
Now crazy canuck/idesigner1 has already said in the old forum that Maratha rape and depradations against Rajputs and their subjects are vividly recorded in the annals of Rajasthan.So just because you belong to the same religion does not guarantee an immunity against war time atrocities.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:05 pm
by Nosuperstition
Now the famous Afghan ruler Ahmed Shah Abdali who won over the Hindu Marathas decisively after the third battle of Panipat butchered and burnt hundreds of thousands of Hindus.However in the immediate aftermath of that battle,he only allowed some of the soldiers of his army who lost their dear relatives in the battle to rape the women of defeated Marathas.He did not allow all of his soldiers that privilege.It is said that the Afghan or Pashtuun punishment for adultery differs from Sharia.Just like Hinduism which has laws of Manu that are against war time atrocities but which might have been amenable depending on situations of time and place,Muslims too might have developed different codes of conduct during times of war and peace based on ethnicity and geography and were not homogenous in their approach to the spoils of war ,it seems.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:11 pm
by Nosuperstition
Islam seemhan wrote:First, he asked them not force them so it is not rape.

Secondly, It was one of the ways of freeing them.


viewtopic.php?f=17&t=9141&p=147030&hilit=freeing#p147030

So she denies that what the Prophet Mohammad did is rape.Any authoritative quotes by muslim sources themselves regarding what happened?

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:34 pm
by Nosuperstition
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=16217&p=235831&hilit=Nizam#p235831

To the best of what I have observed,it is indeed true that X Reddy of Telangana with whom I worked in my office had facial similarities with another Marwari Chartered Accountant of the same town who used to visit our office.Also Y Rajput,an official I saw where I worked also had facial similarities with famous Congress politician Madhu Yashki Goud of Telangana and Z Reddy of Telangana who was my collegemate studying EEE at my Engineering college.However as someone in FFI pointed out,fair skinned Indians are only a drop in the ocean of dark skinned ones.Similarly majority of people of Telangana would still be genetically similar with Telugu people of other Telugu regions.So North Indians cannot simply buy off cheaply the properties belonging to us by using those of fellow Urdu and Sherwani-Biryani admiring Telangana people for forcing distress sales.

Now Brahmins A and B of Telangana who worked as managers in my office with full black skin hardly looked 'Aryan'.One of them also had a mother tongue that is 'Dravidian'.So all those of Telangana definately are not the offspring of Aryans or Iranians.

The Veda Vyas Smriti contains the following verse which specifies the communities which are included in the category of Antyajas and the reasons why they were so included

L.12-13 “The Charmakars (Cobbler), the Bhatta (Soldier), the Bhilla, the Rajaka (washerman), the Puskara, the Nata (actor), the Vrata, the Meda, the Chandala, the Dasa, the Svapaka, and the Kolika- these are known as Antyajas as well as others who eat cow’s flesh.”


https://www.countercurrents.org/dalit-ambekarbeef050703.htm

Now since bhattas or soldiers are considered as untouchables and since soldiers will mostly be from Kshatriya community,perhaps Ambedkar theorised that the ancestors of Dalits were once Kshatriyas themselves who were later pushed down the social ladder due to conquest of one kingdom over another.So if only pure locals are worth living in Hyd then they can be none other than Dalits and Tribals.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:57 pm
by Nosuperstition
K.S.Reddy of a non-Telanganite region whom I saw looked much familiar to Ravi ,my Engineering classmate.Now Ravi is not a Reddy but is from Telangana.Now both these looked Aryan or Iranian ,the great descent of which was proclaimed by Emperor Darius or Cyrus of Persian Empire.So their good looks could have been from either Aryan Brahmin blood or from that of various foreign invaders such as the Shaka, Huna etc., or from the Aryan Muslim blood or from those white women of harems sold by pagan Romans to the Indian kings for trade favours or due to the British Imperialism.So if only being someone of Aryan looks is the criterion for living in Hyderabad ,then surely there are also other people from other Telugu regions who satisfy that criterion.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:10 pm
by Nosuperstition
Now when the movement for Telangana was at its peak,I heard the songs that were used to raise emotions.In one of the songs they ask ammodiva nuvvu ayyodivaa Telanganoniki nuvvu kaanodivaa.Now it means are you related to Telangana from your mother's side or your father's side or are you not related in either ways?So going by what they said even those North Indians for whose sake A.P was bifurcated and who want to settle in Hyd should choose their spouse from Telangana.

But then even though to me many Islamic monuments in India appear completely different,scholars who have observed the finer aspects call them a blend of both Hindu and Muslim architecture and uniquely name them as pertaining to Indo-Muslim architecture.Still muslims were kicked out in huge numbers during partition of India in 1947 inspite of being related in one way or another.So does it really suffice to have one of the married couple to be native to be considered native?

Or may be they will say that rakshasa vivaaham or demonic marriage in which one side is forcibly married off by another is an unacceptable one as compared with the one in which both the partners mutually give their consent.Or may be they will say that to accomodate huge numbers of Hindus kicked out of newly created Pakistan,Muslims in India too had to be kicked out in huge numbers.

Whatever the truth be,it only shows that even if one of the partners is native,there is no guarantee that you are treated like a native.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:46 pm
by Nosuperstition
I am (ad-am) Darius, the Great king, ruler/king over kings, king of all the lands, king of this great clime, far and wide, son of Hystaspes, an Achaemenid, a Persian, son of a Persian, AN ARYAN, FROM THE ARYAN KINSFOLK

(ad-am Dáraya-vaush, xshayath-iya vazraka,xshayath-iya xshayath-iya-nám,xshayath-iya dahyú-nám vispa-zanánám11 xshayath-iya ahyaya búmiya vazrakaya,dúra-iapiy, Vishtasp-ahya púcha, haxa-manishiya, pársa pársahya pucha, ARIYA ARIYA-CICHA)


https://authenticgathazoroastrianism.org/2014/03/31/the-aryan-origin-of-most-iranians-darius-greats-inscription-and-the-propaganda-movie-300/

Now ad-am is similar to aham in Sanskrit both meaning I am.xshayath might be related to Kshatriya/Kshetra in Sanskrit,ahyaya might be avyaya,bumiya might be related to bhumi,Vishtasp ahya pucha might be translated as Vishtaspasya putra,haxa-mainshiya might be man of haxa.So clearly ancient Persian and Sanskrit are both linguistically related.Yet the words of day to day usage seem to differ radically in South Indian languages.Also as can be clearly observed Aryans boasted about being of a higher birth.That is not upto my taste.Hence I dislike those who assert superiority by birth.

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:55 pm
by Fernando
Nosuperstition wrote:
I am (ad-am) Darius, the Great king, ruler/king over kings
Also sprach Ozymandias (if you'll excuse the bilingual pun).

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:09 am
by Nosuperstition
Fernando wrote:
Nosuperstition wrote:
I am (ad-am) Darius, the Great king, ruler/king over kings
Also sprach Ozymandias (if you'll excuse the bilingual pun).


What does that mean?

Re: war rape

PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:54 pm
by Fernando
Fernando wrote:
Nosuperstition wrote:
I am (ad-am) Darius, the Great king, ruler/king over kings
Also sprach Ozymandias (if you'll excuse the bilingual pun).

Sorry NS, just being silly!
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Shelley