you didn't read properly. I am not talking about western indologists.tejpat wrote:this is what Hindus believe - written in scriptures :
Vedas were in existence since satyuga and were memorized and passed on.
at end of Dwaparyuga and beginning of Kalyuga, Veda Vyasa compiled Vedas. Kaliyuga began in 3102 BC
Yuga - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Kaliyuga - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Vedas - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedas" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 it was compiled. not composed. read it carefully.
sorry for not mentioning, those link were given for understanding of Vedas, yuga, kaliyuga. dates are taken from !!! Authentic Hindu websites ( which you wont even like to see )Yohan wrote:Your own given sources say that Rig Veda was composed only by 1000 BC.
are you a Historian or Indologists ? because your claiming so strongly that you have proved it internationally with valid facts.Yohan wrote: There were no Indo Aryans in the subcontinent in 3102BC. There were no Indo-aryan laguage like Sanskrit either in the subcontinent, the language of Vedas.
what all researched you have done in India for aryan invasion,, or wait, you have been sitting like a gigantic S, popping chicken burgers than pooping them, doing nothing and reading books by those fools who want to reason out whatever others cannot.
scientific proofs, Hahaha what sort of besides just biased speculations on Language.Yohan wrote: Subcontinentals picked up Indo Aryan tongue from the Aryan Invaders who came into India 1500-1000BC. There are so many scientific proofs (???) for it. A simple one is that subcontinentals (north Indians) are the only indo-aryan speaking people in the world who speak Indo-Aryan language with a Dravidian accent (special retroflex accent, a chief characteristic of the Draviadian language). For example, Just watch Aryan Afghan President Karzai speaking English in TV, and an equally educated north Indian speaking English. That is the difference I am talking about. Much scientific studies had been done on it. That shows all subcontinentals spoke Dravidian language before the arrival of Aryans.
are proving one theory based on Speculations ??? Get a life.
again yo have started with Rig vedas.Yohan wrote:(a)Rig Veda speaks about all the four castes by name, several times. It speaks of the Aryan enslavement of Indians (dasas, dasyus). Manusmrithi written some 2000 years ago speaks how Dasas became Shutra caste.
Please show any verses in rig vedas for below
1) which shows shudras are lower caste.
2) Aryan enslaved indians
3) Manusmiriti speaks anything about enslavement of shudra.
4) Meaning of Dasyus from rigvedas.
you have no basic knowledge of anything and barking here like a rabid dog.
have read manusmiriti ? what is a smiriti and who wrote it ? now you'll search on net but you don't know personally anything. you are a big waste of time.
just a few post above, you accepted there are no caste system in Rigvedas . you pathetically failed to even show me one verse now here again you have started barking.
please, you stop reading authors like Harold Egbert who claimed so strongly that judgement day will come on 21 may 2011 now whole world is laughing on that Big Fat Liar.Yohan wrote:(b)Stop reading books written by Hindu fanatics, their minions and other idiots. Read decent books. Learn some basics first. Don't be ignorant like a Hindu fanatic. Stop glorifying Sanskrit, the language of your invaders.
If you seriously want to do some research than do it without any prejudiced and biased conclusion. after that claim whatever you can based on that. till than stfu.