A question for the muslims. How many gods are there?

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How did the big one reach superiority and how does he maintain his status. What purpose do the small bosses serve, which areas are they responsible of and according to which laws do they govern. How did the lesser ones come to be and why.

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Eagle wrote:How did the big one reach superiority and how does he maintain his status. What purpose do the small bosses serve, which areas are they responsible of and according to which laws do they govern. How did the lesser ones come to be and why.
Gods of pagan nations are supposedly sons of God himself according to the Bible. However they are dethroned as they fail to discharge their duties properly and as they are wicked and anti-poor. So after dethroning them, God himself takes over the task of governing those nations according to the Psalms.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Re: A question for the muslims. How many gods are there?

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Hello Eagle

I am still at a loss to understand that one god can give diametrically opposed guidance. Either god is a schizophrenic, there are two gods or two claimed gods but one god is false.

Can you please explain your belief on this matter?

sum

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The Grand Quran answers this, by basically saying the divine line between truth and falsehood has always been the same and it is the people themselves, by neglecting their own spirituality, that corrupted it.

As said in a previous post, the Quran, contrary to the previous scriptures stating that God wanted the knowledge of good and bad to remain hidden from humanity, declares that Allah gave this knowlegde to mankind from the begginning as it was crucial for the fulfillement of the role of morally accountable vicegerent for which it was created, then settled man on the earth in full light that he might fulfill his role in righteousness. The Torah contains remnants of that reality. Then afterwards man began neglecting the prayers which is the true connection between him and God, the first sign of degeneration of a people 19:59 despite the repeated warnings of the prophets. This openned the way to the incitements of Satan and the following of one's lusts. Then Allah sent His Messengers over and over again to re-establish God's way 42:13, erase that mischief and set the people aright 7:74,85 invite the people to come out of darkness into light and to refrain from disorder. Mankind was therefore originally 2:213"one single nation" but this unity disintegrated in the face of man's subsequent development.

In Jewish tradition, mankind's spiritual straying initiated when in the time of Enoch, son of Adam's third son Seth Gen4:25, people neglected Adam's guidance and began to make images and statues to remind them of God, which they began worshiping.

So, in the Quranic account, as pledged to Adam as he was sent outside the garden, divine guidance was sent to remove these conflicts that cannot be erased naturally
30:41"Corruption has appeared in the land and the sea on account of what the hands of men have wrought, that He may make them taste a part of that which they have done, so that they may return".
Here as in many places, the Quran mentions the concept of "returning" which implies man's straying from his original inclination. The Quran speaks of itself as the "reminder" of mankind and asks repeatedly to recall the forgotten, corrupted or hidden truths that caused the people's straying from a path they were still somewhat cognizant about but referred to as 27:68"ancient stories" due to generations of supression of the truth by mixing it with innovations and falsehood
21:24"this is the reminder of those with me and the reminder of those before me. Nay! most of them do not know the truth, so they turn aside".
Then religion was perfected to remove both types of differences; the natural ones due to different opinions (which the Quran came to settle 27:76) and the un‑natural ones emanating from the rebellion of the political and religious leaders
21:92-93"this, your religion, is one religion, and I am your Lord, so worship Me. And they have broken their religion (into fragments) among them, (yet) all are returning unto Us"
42:14"And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves".
When Ibrahim was sent with the message of monotheism to his people, his word was left to his posterity
43:28"that they may return"
and the people after him were left to uphold this trust but many deviated, taking their descendants with them
43:29"I gave them and their fathers to enjoy until there came to them the truth and a Messenger making manifest (the truth)".
But when the messenger came with the bayyina/proof to clear the misconceptions and conjectures that led many among the people of the book and the idolaters to stubbornly remain in their error, to gather them back to the way of Ibrahim the Hanif some of them said
43:30"This is magic, and surely we are disbelievers in it".
They thus rejected it, and preferred remaining on the path of their fathers 43:21-24. Consequently to this sending of a clear evidence showing them where they went wrong, many of the people of the book, who were in a better position than the pagans to recognise the truth of Islam believed, but many more disbelieved on account of their stubborn attachements to their old ways or simply out of jealousy at seeing the spiritual leadership of mankind having naturally switched to another people
98:4"And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them".
This evidence that was supposed to guide them back to the ways of their prophets ended up confirming the disbelief of many among them 2:213,253,3:19,5:44-50,10:93,26:13-15,45:16-18. It was everytime, from the prophets that followed Moses down to Jesus and finally Muhammad, for egotistic reasons that they -and most specifically the religious elite- refused to heed to the pure knowledge and message of a prophet. Knowledge is a means by which self legitimacy is increased. With knowledge comes status and so when a certain knowledge becomes outdated then it interferes with pride and whatever strikes at those things usually causes resentments, division. That rejection was most pronounced in the days of Jesus and Muhammad.

Religion goes on elaborating and unveiling itself until its laws and wisdom finally cover all the possible needs and eventualities of mankind until the Resurrection, whether physical social or spiritual, superseding earlier systems of law that were conditioned by the evolving conditions of the people. As it reaches that stage no other revelation follows it. This life being a test of man's freewill, there obviously has to be a point where Revelation will stop, for Messengers are sent to warn of the Day of Judgment. From that point on, the matter isnt to promulgate new guidance and laws, but to promote the acceptance of the available guidance. It is to be kept in mind however that mankind being obliged to follow the latest prophet does not in any way diminish or discredit the eminence and status of the previous prophet, just like the obligation of students of a higher class year to follow their teacher does not mean that the teacher of the year lower is of lesser status, legitimacy or merit
2:135-6"And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists. Say: We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit".
From Adam to Muhammad, the divinely appointed teachers were inspired according to the receptive capacity of their people, as Jesus said
Jn16:12-15"I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you".
With the prophet Muhammad whom the Quran refers to as the seal, the objective of the initiation of the sacred line of prophets was fully attained, the institution was finally sealed. Muhammad was ushering in the final era, an era which was ushered in by a Book and which is often equated as the age of reason and empiricism. The world is global now and information can travel from one side of the planet to another in a mere second. The final revelation has been preserved through the Quran and was further cemented by the rapid Islamic socio-historic and political expanse during and after Muhammad
21:107"And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds".
Mercy to all the nations means that the ordinances given to him are unrestricted by time and space. God knew this message would spread far and wide, that the world would perdure long after the revelation was bestowed on Muhammad. It is in full knowledge of this that God ended revelation 1400+ years ago and chose Arabia to manifest it.

The religion of Islam/submission to Allah is undeniably a universal phenomenon symbolized by the Kaaba built by Abraham in a town referred to as umm al qura/mother of the towns 6:92,42:7 the primary symbol of tawheed cleansed by Muhammad for the rest of the ages as pledged by Allah to Ibrahim as he was building it with his son Ismail, and now open to all of humanity, as was its original intent 5:97,22:25-7.

Several portions of the Book were revealed, some were written down others remained oral 6:84-90, until the Quran 2:236,3:23,4:44,51,5:44,43:4 so when the Quran decrees that prophethood has come to its end with Muhammad it is truly saying that Muslims are the most spiritually emancipated peoples on earth. The divine law had underwent a process of evolution until man, as a result of his collective advancement over time, had reached a state where his intellectual and emotional were strong enough to be left on his own. With Islam reaching its ultimate form through Muhammad came the real independence of man, as well as a recognition of his true potential and immense capabilities. With Islam, came the true freedom for man.
Islam will never be abrogated, and its sharia will remain in force till the end of the world. It means that human perfection, individual as well as collective, shall always remain within the limits of the laws ordained by Islam. There can never arise a situation for which Islam has no guidance.

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Re: A question for the muslims. How many gods are there?

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Eagle wrote:The Grand Quran answers this, by basically saying the divine line between truth and falsehood has always been the same and it is the people themselves, by neglecting their own spirituality, that corrupted it.

As said in a previous post, the Quran, contrary to the previous scriptures stating that God wanted the knowledge of good and bad to remain hidden from humanity, declares that Allah gave this knowlegde to mankind from the begginning as it was crucial for the fulfillement of the role of morally accountable vicegerent for which it was created, then settled man on the earth in full light that he might fulfill his role in righteousness. The Torah contains remnants of that reality. Then afterwards man began neglecting the prayers which is the true connection between him and God, the first sign of degeneration of a people 19:59 despite the repeated warnings of the prophets. This openned the way to the incitements of Satan and the following of one's lusts. Then Allah sent His Messengers over and over again to re-establish God's way 42:13, erase that mischief and set the people aright 7:74,85 invite the people to come out of darkness into light and to refrain from disorder. Mankind was therefore originally 2:213"one single nation" but this unity disintegrated in the face of man's subsequent development.

In Jewish tradition, mankind's spiritual straying initiated when in the time of Enoch, son of Adam's third son Seth Gen4:25, people neglected Adam's guidance and began to make images and statues to remind them of God, which they began worshiping.

So, in the Quranic account, as pledged to Adam as he was sent outside the garden, divine guidance was sent to remove these conflicts that cannot be erased naturally
30:41"Corruption has appeared in the land and the sea on account of what the hands of men have wrought, that He may make them taste a part of that which they have done, so that they may return".
Here as in many places, the Quran mentions the concept of "returning" which implies man's straying from his original inclination. The Quran speaks of itself as the "reminder" of mankind and asks repeatedly to recall the forgotten, corrupted or hidden truths that caused the people's straying from a path they were still somewhat cognizant about but referred to as 27:68"ancient stories" due to generations of supression of the truth by mixing it with innovations and falsehood
21:24"this is the reminder of those with me and the reminder of those before me. Nay! most of them do not know the truth, so they turn aside".
Then religion was perfected to remove both types of differences; the natural ones due to different opinions (which the Quran came to settle 27:76) and the un‑natural ones emanating from the rebellion of the political and religious leaders
21:92-93"this, your religion, is one religion, and I am your Lord, so worship Me. And they have broken their religion (into fragments) among them, (yet) all are returning unto Us"
42:14"And they did not become divided until after knowledge had come to them out of envy among themselves".
When Ibrahim was sent with the message of monotheism to his people, his word was left to his posterity
43:28"that they may return"
and the people after him were left to uphold this trust but many deviated, taking their descendants with them
43:29"I gave them and their fathers to enjoy until there came to them the truth and a Messenger making manifest (the truth)".
But when the messenger came with the bayyina/proof to clear the misconceptions and conjectures that led many among the people of the book and the idolaters to stubbornly remain in their error, to gather them back to the way of Ibrahim the Hanif some of them said
43:30"This is magic, and surely we are disbelievers in it".
They thus rejected it, and preferred remaining on the path of their fathers 43:21-24. Consequently to this sending of a clear evidence showing them where they went wrong, many of the people of the book, who were in a better position than the pagans to recognise the truth of Islam believed, but many more disbelieved on account of their stubborn attachements to their old ways or simply out of jealousy at seeing the spiritual leadership of mankind having naturally switched to another people
98:4"And those who were given the Book did not become divided except after clear evidence had come to them".
This evidence that was supposed to guide them back to the ways of their prophets ended up confirming the disbelief of many among them 2:213,253,3:19,5:44-50,10:93,26:13-15,45:16-18. It was everytime, from the prophets that followed Moses down to Jesus and finally Muhammad, for egotistic reasons that they -and most specifically the religious elite- refused to heed to the pure knowledge and message of a prophet. Knowledge is a means by which self legitimacy is increased. With knowledge comes status and so when a certain knowledge becomes outdated then it interferes with pride and whatever strikes at those things usually causes resentments, division. That rejection was most pronounced in the days of Jesus and Muhammad.

Religion goes on elaborating and unveiling itself until its laws and wisdom finally cover all the possible needs and eventualities of mankind until the Resurrection, whether physical social or spiritual, superseding earlier systems of law that were conditioned by the evolving conditions of the people. As it reaches that stage no other revelation follows it. This life being a test of man's freewill, there obviously has to be a point where Revelation will stop, for Messengers are sent to warn of the Day of Judgment. From that point on, the matter isnt to promulgate new guidance and laws, but to promote the acceptance of the available guidance. It is to be kept in mind however that mankind being obliged to follow the latest prophet does not in any way diminish or discredit the eminence and status of the previous prophet, just like the obligation of students of a higher class year to follow their teacher does not mean that the teacher of the year lower is of lesser status, legitimacy or merit
2:135-6"And they say: Be Jews or Christians, you will be on the right course. Say: Nay! (we follow) the religion of Ibrahim, the Hanif, and he was not one of the polytheists. Say: We believe in Allah and (in) that which had been revealed to us, and (in) that which was revealed to Ibrahim and Ismail and Ishaq and Yaqoub and the tribes, and (in) that which was given to Musa and Isa, and (in) that which was given to the prophets from their Lord, we do not make any distinction between any of them, and to Him do we submit".
From Adam to Muhammad, the divinely appointed teachers were inspired according to the receptive capacity of their people, as Jesus said
Jn16:12-15"I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you".
With the prophet Muhammad whom the Quran refers to as the seal, the objective of the initiation of the sacred line of prophets was fully attained, the institution was finally sealed. Muhammad was ushering in the final era, an era which was ushered in by a Book and which is often equated as the age of reason and empiricism. The world is global now and information can travel from one side of the planet to another in a mere second. The final revelation has been preserved through the Quran and was further cemented by the rapid Islamic socio-historic and political expanse during and after Muhammad
21:107"And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the worlds".
Mercy to all the nations means that the ordinances given to him are unrestricted by time and space. God knew this message would spread far and wide, that the world would perdure long after the revelation was bestowed on Muhammad. It is in full knowledge of this that God ended revelation 1400+ years ago and chose Arabia to manifest it.

The religion of Islam/submission to Allah is undeniably a universal phenomenon symbolized by the Kaaba built by Abraham in a town referred to as umm al qura/mother of the towns 6:92,42:7 the primary symbol of tawheed cleansed by Muhammad for the rest of the ages as pledged by Allah to Ibrahim as he was building it with his son Ismail, and now open to all of humanity, as was its original intent 5:97,22:25-7.

Several portions of the Book were revealed, some were written down others remained oral 6:84-90, until the Quran 2:236,3:23,4:44,51,5:44,43:4 so when the Quran decrees that prophethood has come to its end with Muhammad it is truly saying that Muslims are the most spiritually emancipated peoples on earth. The divine law had underwent a process of evolution until man, as a result of his collective advancement over time, had reached a state where his intellectual and emotional were strong enough to be left on his own. With Islam reaching its ultimate form through Muhammad came the real independence of man, as well as a recognition of his true potential and immense capabilities. With Islam, came the true freedom for man.
Islam will never be abrogated, and its sharia will remain in force till the end of the world. It means that human perfection, individual as well as collective, shall always remain within the limits of the laws ordained by Islam. There can never arise a situation for which Islam has no guidance.

Eagle
This evidence that was supposed to guide them back to the ways of their prophets ended up confirming the disbelief of many among them
The prophets of the Bible spoke in the name of YHWH,they taught their listeners to repent from sin, and to obey YHWH's commands, based on love of God, and love of all people regardless of faith.

It is sin which is the "enemy "of YHWH,not people or disbelief.

Mohammed did not teach from this premise, He taught that unbelief in Allah is sin, which must be punished through warfare against people who did not accept Allah as the only god, plus, any "love" that Allah may have is reserved only for Muslims.

Mohammed proved he did not speak on behalf of YHWH, he changed what YHWH had already revealed, which should not be the case if Mohammed was a prophet of this same God.

Mohamed proved he was not what he claimed to be, a prophet in line with all previous prophets, which makes Mohammed a false prophet, and false prophets according to the Bible, the very book which Mohammed claimed to represent are deceivers.

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Re: A question for the muslims. How many gods are there?

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Muslims claim that there is only one god but there are two doctrines that are diametrically opposed to each other. If there is one god then it stands to reason that one doctrine must be false. One of these doctrines is claimed to be the literal word of this god but this god claims that the sun sets in a muddy pool!!!

The claim that the sun sets in a muddy pool clearly suggests that that doctrine is false as the claim is embarrassingly wrong and no god would ever make that claim.

The worrying thing is that this claim of the sun setting in a muddy pool, which is so wrong, appears to make no impression on muslims. Their indoctrination is truly perfected and that is why I fear for the future because as far as I can see there can be no alternative to total global warfare to ensure that civilisation survives against the evil doctrine that claims that the sun sets in a muddy pool.

Can anyone suggest that there is another way?

sum

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Eagle wrote:How did the big one reach superiority and how does he maintain his status. What purpose do the small bosses serve, which areas are they responsible of and according to which laws do they govern. How did the lesser ones come to be and why.
How does Allah maintain his status? The roles of the lesser gods are described by the various religions believing in them - hardly a concern for anyone else. They came to be, of course, by the same means as Allah - by the human mind - and for the same reason: intitially to explain natural occurrences and later to control people.
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Meanwhile, more on the muddy pool where the sun sets.
Edgar Rice Burroughs gave us a pointer when he described in his travelogue A Princess of Mars. a ledge set back into the cliff face with a muddy pool.
Of course, he was a bit out - very difficult for the sun to set on a mere ledge. NASA, however, now knows better:
Mars: huge underground lake raises prospects of life on planet ...
This make much more sense: the sun goes to Mars each night, and sets in an underground pool where it cannot be seen.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/201 ... stronomers
We can now speculate: are the people on Mars, who John Carter met, the same people who Alexander met? Is, even, John Carter actually Alexander himself who Burroughs is describing?
And if he knew so much, was Burroughs a prophet?
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sum wrote:Would any muslim tell me how many gods they believe exist?

sum
One true God. the rest ones are false gods.

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Nice to see you back uncung.
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uncung wrote:
sum wrote:Would any muslim tell me how many gods they believe exist?

sum
One true God. the rest ones are false gods.
uncung
One true God. the rest ones are false gods
Any script that claims to be the verbatim words of God must be correct in all it claims, as not to do so would indicate that script to be flawed, and therefore cannot come from any divine being.
The Quran is such a script, becasue the Quran contains errors which indicate clearly the author of it cannot be a divine entity but is from the minds of men who did not know any better at the time of its composition.
Here are just three of many examples.

The Quran claims the sun sets in a spring of murky water,

Quran 18.86
Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness

Sexual fluid comes from between the backbone and the ribs

Quran 86.6-7
6. He is created from a drop emitted-

7. Proceeding from between the backbone and the ribs:

And counts Mary as a god to be worshipped

Quran 5.116

And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, Thou I know not what is in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden."


It is agreed that there is only one God, but Allah cannot be this god, as no God worthy of the name would make such blatant errors concerning his own creation.

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uncung wrote:
sum wrote:Would any muslim tell me how many gods they believe exist?

sum
One true God. the rest ones are false gods.
Are false gods gods that have gone wrong, offended Allah or sided with Satan for instance? Or are they just inferior to Allah and so not worth worshipping?
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I still have not had a reply from the muslims as to whether to believe Allah when he says that that the sun sets in a muddy pool or Mohammad who said that it rested beneath Allah`s throne. Is the muddy pool beneath Allah`s throne?

What do the muslims truly believe? Is Allah more believable than Mohammed? Or is it much more reasonable to believe that the Koranic claim and the hadith are both absolute nonsense and that Islam is a complete hoax and falsehood?

sum

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sum wrote:I still have not had a reply from the muslims as to whether to believe Allah when he says that that the sun sets in a muddy pool or Mohammad who said that it rested beneath Allah`s throne. Is the muddy pool beneath Allah`s throne?
They're both right, sum. Where do you think clouds come from? They're from the steam produced when the sun sets in the muddy pool beneath Allah's throne.
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Well, there were thousands of gods, most of them are dead.

List of dead gods
Islam: an idea to kill and die for.

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Fernando wrote:
sum wrote:I still have not had a reply from the muslims as to whether to believe Allah when he says that that the sun sets in a muddy pool or Mohammad who said that it rested beneath Allah`s throne. Is the muddy pool beneath Allah`s throne?
They're both right, sum. Where do you think clouds come from? They're from the steam produced when the sun sets in the muddy pool beneath Allah's throne.
I wonder what Mrs Allah thought of a muddy pool beneath the throne. Nabatean inscriptions and graffiti tell us that Allah had a mistress, Allat. With the rise of Islam she suddenly disappears from the archeological records - maybe the pool was too messy.
Abraham= H'ammu'rab(b)i, Historical Muhammad=Benjamin of Tiberias. Islam: Syncretic Israelite Yahwishm Deity: nameless, epithets Dsr, El Qutbay, ʼAlâhâ, Allāh. Ka'ba: Kutha => Samaria => Petra=> Makkah. Hijrah 622: Petra => Kerak

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pr126 wrote:Well, there were thousands of gods, most of them are dead.

List of dead gods
Perseverance of the religions of One True God in missionary zealotry forced them to go extinct.In the old forum when I pointed out to IHSoter about how he was following double standards or hypocrisy when he complained about Byzantine emperors trying to meddle in the realms of Papacy by funding their own theology in the Western Christendom but was neverthless supportive of intrusionary and destabilising missionary activity in modern non-Christian countries,someone told me that we all follow double standards.They are that practical with regards to the anti-thesis of the Golden Rule.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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