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Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:23 am
by sum
I would like to wish everyone a very happy Christmas and New Year.

My wish for a very happy Christmas is also for SAM and Garudaman along with their co-religionists. Hopefully they will see the light.

sum

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:03 pm
by Nosuperstition
sum wrote:I would like to wish everyone a very happy Christmas and New Year.

My wish for a very happy Christmas is also for SAM and Garudaman along with their co-religionists. Hopefully they will see the light.

sum


How dare you tell them to leave behind the One True God and ask them to join you pagan celebrations with the tree and all that associated stuff?How dare you ask them to become apostates thereby risking their lives?

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:17 am
by manfred
I too wish everyone a happy Christmas.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:49 pm
by survivor
sum wrote:I would like to wish everyone a very happy Christmas and New Year.

My wish for a very happy Christmas is also for SAM and Garudaman along with their co-religionists. Hopefully they will see the light.

sum

'Merry Christmas' and a 'Happy New Year -2018', everyone.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Wed Dec 27, 2017 11:43 am
by Ariel
I hope everyone had a very nice Christmas. Mine was not too great. Husband and I had/have the flu, while we still had/have to visit my 96 year old mother who is getting worse and worse, and who needs more and more attention. She still lives at home.

Anyway. Today we have a day off, and we can feel sorry for ourselves, a whole beautiful day long. How nice.... ;)

I am sure next Christmas will be better.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 10:26 am
by survivor
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Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:08 pm
by survivor
survivor wrote:
Ariel wrote:I hope everyone had a very nice Christmas. Mine was not too great. Husband and I had/have the flu, while we still had/have to visit my 96 year old mother who is getting worse and worse, and who needs more and more attention. She still lives at home.

Anyway. Today we have a day off, and we can feel sorry for ourselves, a whole beautiful day long. How nice.... ;)

I am sure next Christmas will be better.

Sorry to hear you and your family are not feeling well, Ariel.
Hope, you guys recover soon and have a great 'New Year's celebration'.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:35 pm
by Nosuperstition
red things hung on the Christmas tree supposedly represent the blood of Diana,the queen of heaven in pagan Germanic and Norse mythologies denoting fertility of the females.Muslims might not accept the pagan Christmas tree as long as such things still continue to decorate the tree.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 3:07 pm
by manfred
Nosuperstition wrote:red things hung on the Christmas tree supposedly represent the blood of Diana,the queen of heaven in pagan Germanic and Norse mythologies denoting fertility of the females.Muslims might not accept the pagan Christmas tree as long as such things still continue to decorate the tree.

Diana is the GREEK goddess of the hunt and has nothing whatever to do with Germanic or Norse mythology. And a "Christmas tree" is a relatively new "tradition" at Christmas, dating back only to the early 19th century. What is slightly true in your statement is that it was a sort of romantic revival of an old Nordic custum to bring evergreen plants into the house for winter as a reminder that the harsh season will end.

The reason why the "Christmas tree" became widely popular is because the German husband of Queen Victoria, prince Albert, introduced it to Britain, and thus it spread through many regions of what was then the "empire" as well as other parts of Europe.

The Christmas tree is an incidental tradition to Christmas, and many celebrate Christmas without it. For those who do have it, it is simply a symbol of hope. Just as the persisting green of the pine in the hardest of winters promises a change and return to better times, Christmas is a promise of change: God became man, and this is the biggest change and sign of hope possible. A small child in a stable, a sign of hope for salvation. Christmas is a promise which is delivered at Easter. Just as this newborn received Gold, incense and myrrh to emphasise his role as hope for humanity, so also the Christmas three is decorated to emphasise that it seen as a symbol of hope.

So the old symbolism in the Norse tradition, a pointer to better times ahead, is given a quite new and deeper meaning.

As to Muslims not being able to "accept" this symbolism, I have no problems at all with that, in fact some Christians also do not not. However, those do not go round murdering those who have a differing view. Muslims as a rule are very insecure about their own religion which is where the intolerance comes from.

If a Muslim decides to convert to Christianity, there are few who would prescribe to them how to keep Christmas or any other holiday. However, from my experience, it is not Christmas customs they have problems with. For many of such converts, the last thing they "relax" are the dietary rules of Islam, specially the eating of pork. They can take comfort though from the fact that the Christian God cares little about their dinner.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:23 pm
by manfred
... And specially for NS and those how don;t like Christmas, let me add a politically correct Christmas greeting and New Year's wish:

"I wonder if I might crave your momentary indulgence in order to discharge a by no means disagreeable obligation which has, over the years, become more or less established practice in government service as we approach the terminal period of the year — calendar, of course, not financial — in fact, not to put too fine a point on it, Week Fifty-One — and submit to you, with all appropriate deference, for your consideration at a convenient juncture, a sincere and sanguine expectation — indeed confidence — indeed one might go so far as to say hope — that the aforementioned period may be, at the end of the day, when all relevant factors have been taken into consideration, susceptible to being deemed to be such as to merit a final verdict of having been by no means unsatisfactory in its overall outcome and, in the final analysis, to give grounds for being judged, on mature reflection, to have been conducive to generating a degree of gratification which will be seen in retrospect to have been significantly higher than the general average."

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:49 am
by Nosuperstition
And specially for NS and those how don;t like Christmas


I do not have an axe to grind against Christmas.You are putting words in my mouth.I only commented from the point of view of a muslim. In fact I welcome the fact that pagan things such as the Christmas tree are being added to make it even more colorful.In fact after seeing the split of my linguistic state based on the premise of grabbing money of others taking precedence over shared heritage and that being endorsed by the very party that stands for shared heritage of Hinduism(all in the garb of cultural nationalism),I hardly have any feelings left.

However if I were put in God's shoes , I would ensure that prosperity of a region only depends only so far as religious toleration and right to choose is allowed.Once toleration is gone,prosperity should be gone too.

Re: Happy Christmas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:53 am
by Fernando
manfred wrote:... And specially for NS and those how don;t like Christmas, let me add a politically correct Christmas greeting and New Year's wish:
And may I convey a tentatively optimistic anticipation of an amelioration with the onset of a new enumeration period to all.