Actually- yes, 'they' can. There's a lot more to learn, but these are the basics: The mind is a construct of the human brain. It's what we use to make sense of how things seem to be, to make order out of a series of discrete events. Past and future are just two of the many constructions that the brain makes and which we call, collectively, 'mind.' It is not, and cannot be, separate from the brain; when the brain is harmed or is incomplete or improperly formed, the 'mind' is off-kilter. If the brain is permanently damaged, so too is the mind.BlacKStaR wrote:They can never ever understand the concepts and relationship between the mind and consciousness.
'Consciousness' is the emergent property of certain types of brains which involves the construct of the mind. It requires a certain complexity of thought, but is not unique to humans by any means. Even so, it is even MORE prone to issues of error than the mind-construct. Hence why 'pure reason' hasn't been a valid ontology for almost 300 years in the West. That Aristotelian garbage was *finally* destroyed by Kant.
Sages were human and thus prone to the same errors that all humans made. That they died for their causes only shows that they believed in it. So did the Stoics; so did the Dionysians; so did the Orphic mystery cultists; so did the followers of Isis.... and so on. Belief strong enough to die for only proves beliefs are strong enough to die for. I don't laugh at that, I don't sneer at it- I pity those who would die for beliefs, for those who would suffer for something with such light proof.Sages meditated and died for this cause.
You'd be right if we didn't keep asking for proof that you can't provide. If there was a 'true religion' or 'true spirituality,' it would be followed by everyone. If there was conclusive proof of a god, we wouldn't be asking 'is there a god?' but rather, 'how shall we worship/honor this god?' It wouldn't be 'what's god like?' it would be 'what aspect of god do you like?'Atheists are like barking dogs,the more you throw rocks at them , the more they will bark. Just let them be. It is easy to say " NO " to everything. A baby can do that.
Spirituality may have enriched your life immensely, and possibly have given you some moral direction or something like that- so, credit where credit's due; not ALL spiritual belief is bad, by any means. However, the anti-intellectualism and far lower standards of truth allow for FAR too much abuse for me to let it go. It's a thin line between the tolerance of most 'spiritual' people, and the fascistic (if not outright genocidal) intolerance of those who would use spirituality for personal or political gain. That you, or anyone else, thinks they're not 'true'...whatever you may be... is irrelevant. It happens; it can happen; and it will happen, IF this goes unchallenged.