It is allowed to eat pork, in other words "permissible" I repeat once again that the wild boar and domestic pigs are not the same.manfred wrote:Just where you think old Mo got the story from?Islam has its own story of Noah's Ark without referral from other sources such as Christianity mimicking the story of Sumerian,
a) DO ALL animals have a male and female form?In the Quran say "take on board pairs of every species, male and female,"
Not only pigs that exist in Noah's ark, cats also existed at that time. I know the story of what happened in Noah's Ark between the animals and the followers of Noah.
b) So suddenly there were pigs? Earlier you said there weren't?
c) Something happened between the animals and the followers of Noah? Trust you to come up with that.
I assume this is a typo, and you meant "It ISN'T allowed....." So you are now quite happy to agree that a wild boar is a pig, as you suggest that wild boar sausages are pork. OK then....It is allowed to eat pork, except in certain circumstances such as when it is like starving to death, if a person really has no other choice than to eat pork, then it is allowed to eat only enough to keep us alive , but prohibited eating like Halal food.
You still can not prove to me that a wild boars can give birth to domestic pigs or their offspring.
And Nûh (Noah) said: "My Lord! Leave not one of the disbelievers on the earth!In the Quran does not say a Great Flood came to cover the whole Earth, unlike in the Bible (Genesis) describes a worldwide flood covered even the highest mountains on earth.
Does it say it covered only part?
It seems other Muslims do not agree with you, Sam.... for example:
Noah builds the ark and collected all kinds of specie in pair, then the ark lands on a mount. Wouldnt this mean the floods were global.Quran 23:27
So We inspired him (with this message): "Construct the Ark within Our sight and under Our guidance: then when comes Our Command, and the fountains of the earth gush forth, take thou on board pairs of every species, male and female, and thy family- except those of them against whom the Word has already gone forth: And address Me not in favour of the wrong-doers; for they shall be drowned (in the Flood).
Then the word went forth: "O earth! swallow up thy water, and O sky! Withhold (thy rain)!" and the water abated, and the matter was ended. The Ark rested on Mount Judi, and the word went forth: "Away with those who do wrong!"
Apart from those who boarded Prophet Nuh's (as) Ark, the entire tribe was drowned. The dead included the Prophet's son who thought he could escape by seeking shelter on a mountain.
So why was it not global flood. If you consider that Earth was considered flat at that time, this makes perfect sense. My other argument is one needs only about 100 ft of flood water (esp in those times) to destory a particular tribe. We are talking about Mountains here.
Many scholar of tafsir including Ibn Katheer based on few evidences in Quran suggests that the flood was global
For example in (Al-Sua'araa 119-120)And in Surrat Al-Saffaat says clearly that all humankind today are from prophet NoahAnd We saved him and those with him in the laden ship, Then We drowned the rest (disbelievers) thereafter.
After few ayas in the same context Allah says:And, his progeny, them We made the survivors (i.e. Shem, Ham and Japheth)Also this agrees with prophet Noah' duaaThen We drowned the others (disbelievers and polytheists).
And Nûh (Noah) said: "My Lord! Leave not one of the disbelievers on the earth!
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Not all the writer suggests are very good arguments, but there is one quite strong one: The Qur'an does claim all people living after Noah were his descendants, and all others were drowned. This does very strongly suggests the notion of a global flood, does it not, SAM?
As a general point, it is rarely a good way to argue from the ABSENCE of something.
Earth in Arabic also means territory, soil, ground, land. Great Flood just happened to Noah's people rather than the whole of humanity in the world.
Compare to Bible a load of bullsh*t and rubbish that the flood covered the whole/entire world and contain all the animals in the world in the Noah's Ark.