gupsfu wrote:When someone uses the "taken out of context" argument without explaining what it's really supposed to mean, you know he's lying.
Chiclets wrote:Screw the prophets and the "signs" and the "books" and all of this CRAP and just prove that he exists - give us something real. Otherwise he's less believable than leprechauns and tooth fairies.
Chiclets wrote:Screw the prophets and the "signs" and the "books" and all of this CRAP and just prove that he exists - give us something real. Otherwise he's less believable than leprechauns and tooth fairies.
Chiclets wrote:Screw the prophets and the "signs" and the "books" and all of this CRAP and just prove that he exists - give us something real. Otherwise he's less believable than leprechauns and tooth fairies.
No, those are jinn. Provided you have the right lamp.cl6ub wrote:Chiclets wrote:Screw the prophets and the "signs" and the "books" and all of this CRAP and just prove that he exists - give us something real. Otherwise he's less believable than leprechauns and tooth fairies.
I assume what you have in mind is a humanoid personnel that can be summon at will?
But Manfred, that's already happening: Allah - in the guise of SAM - is chattering to us all the time!manfred wrote: Or these day and age, if Allah wants a chat, there is twitter and facebook, or even a forum ...
By now I am convinced that Samuel is a self hating Jew, masqueraded as "devout Muslim".Fernando wrote:But Manfred, that's already happening: Allah - in the guise of SAM - is chattering to us all the time!manfred wrote: Or these day and age, if Allah wants a chat, there is twitter and facebook, or even a forum ...
manfred wrote:Just wondering,cl6ub... all this "prophet" business according to Islam has been going on for ages but it really was not terribly successful. Most prophets we never heard of, as apparently there are many thousands, some according to Islam were abject failures, like Jesus, and even Mohammed has not achieved his declared aim to eradicate all religions except Islam, there are still around.
So why did Allah not know in advance this strategy was somewhat poor and does not bring proper results? And if he didn't know, why did he not learn from past disasters and changed his strategy?
Why not simply make people born with any message already present in the brains, for example? Or these day and age, if Allah wants a chat, there is twitter and facebook, or even a forum ...
Suppose you are the teacher of a class of kids and you want then to learn about trigonometry. You could send the school caretaker (janitor) to the class with a message "study trigonometry, or else.", while you have a nice cup of tea... But will it work?
Or would it not be better you go to the class and actually teach it?
manfred wrote:You answer that quoting the Qur'an? Now, think upon this: who benefits from this assertion? What if Mohammed simply said that to stop people from thinking about "prophets" and questioning his claims?
cl6ub wrote:manfred wrote:You answer that quoting the Qur'an? Now, think upon this: who benefits from this assertion? What if Mohammed simply said that to stop people from thinking about "prophets" and questioning his claims?
Everything is possible.
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