sum wrote:Hello Al-Fatihah
Will you be answering my question? I asked if you believed that dinosaurs existed and your response was that there is no proof. This did not answer my question.
Please tell me if you believe that dinosaurs once existed.
manfred wrote:You say to us
قُلْ هَاتُواْ بُرْهَانَكُمْ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ
(Say: Bring your proof if you are truthful)
in your signature,
but when the proof is brought as requested, you are unable or unwilling to process the information provided to you. Instead you all you do is forever repeat one liners saying that your opening post is true and nothing else matters.
This last response is yet another example... you do not even try to address anything, you just all all that is said various derogatory terms, and/or insult other users.
It is kind of rich to read your abuse of Hombre given the ludicrous things you said in this thread.
So you're not a Muslim after all! Very naughty of you, pretending to be a believer.Al-Fatihah wrote:Response: I don't believe what has no proof.
Using your own standards, you also should NOT believe anything Muhammad had said written in his Quran, because there is not a shred of proof, himself ever met Abraham, Jesus, nor ever been in Jerusalem.Al-Fatihah wrote:Response: I don't believe what has no proof.
manfred wrote:Hi iffo, I hope you are well. The idea that somehow something is ONLY ever true if you can see it with you own eyes is really quite absurd. For a start there are many things we do not see, most gases for a start, and also, the other way round we all actually know that our own eyes can deceive us at times. (well, in reality the way the brain makes sense of sensory information). Here is an example:
We all see the same image. Some say they see an old man, some a young girl, some an old lady.
Some see all three at different times.
So if someone boasts "I only believe what I can see" I like to show him pictures like that. It proves that our brain actually makes sense of the visual information by trying to match it to something familiar. This process is not error free.
All of us have to believe quite a few things in everyday live to be able to function. For example this morning I paid a bill at the bank. I believed that the bank will actually forward my payment to the recipient and not spend it on coffee and snacks for the management meeting. I had no proof they would do that at all, but I trusted them. If none of us had any such trust in other people, the world could not function.
So what things shouldwe believe and what things shouldn't we? That is perhaps an interesting topic...
Al-Fatihah wrote:The Absurdity of Atheists and Agnostics
The arguments presented by Atheists and Agnostics are so illogical and hypocritical, that it's hard to imagine whether they are sane or not.
An atheist will deny or reject the teachings in religious scriptures and say that they are unsound or false because religious scriptures are made up of folklore and myths. They also state that saying a religious scripture is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.
But watch this. Ask any atheist about evoultion and what is their proof? They themselves refer to textbooks themselves as proof and claim that evolution is true for the same reasons why religious call their scriptures true. "Because it says so". That shows not only complete hypocrisy, but refutes the claim that evolution is true because according to atheists themselves, claiming something is true because it says it's true is faulty logic.
It doesn't end there though. To defend that foolish claim, they say that it's not based on say so. They say that the science has been peer-reviewed, analyzed, and witnessed, observed and tested, so it's a fact.
But watch this. How do you know that it's been witnessed, peer-reviewed, and analyzed, observed and tested? "Because it says so". Hahah. They defend their faulty logic with the same faulty logic.
Therefore, since all atheist and agnostics claims and alleged evidence that evolution is true or God does not or may not exist is based on "because a book says so" and cannot even present evidence that the authors are speaking truthfully, then they have no logical reasoning to deny any religious scripture as truth when it's based on the same type of evidence for evolution as true, which is, "because a book says so".
The absurdity of atheists and agnostics exposed.
Challenge: Prove evolution is true, without referring to what someone says ( from a book, link, or article, etc.).
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