Insulting religion

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Nosuperstition
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Re: Insulting religion

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Yohan wrote:Isn't it just only a couple of years ago that Hindus like you attacked Christians in the Indian state of Karnataka, because some Christians spread the word that one Hindu deity Urvasi was a prostitute? Don't deny this.
Well Hindus have many sacred scriptures.Not one.The Vedas,the Upanishads,the Itihaasas,the Puranas and various commentaries on these books by gurus of different sects.And there exist Sthala Puranas too i.e sacred texts particular only to to one holy place.Even as early as in 8th century A.D,one particular sthala Purana of Srisailam has this story.

Once Lord Shiva and his consort Parvathi were having a chit-chat.Parvati asks Shiva whether or not the sins of those that take bath in a holy waters of Srisailam are washed away.Then Shiva asks her to follow him in disguise and do as he says.They both disguise themselves as aged persons and Shiva intentionally gets down into a pit.
He and his consort then scream for help to get out of the pit.

When people come to help them out,Parvati says that her husband because of strange powers bestowed upon him,could be helped only by someone who is totally sinless else they will be burnt.Then nobody comes forward.At last a prostitute comes forward,says that she had just worshipped Shiva after taking a holy bath and hence is totally sinless and she pulls him out.

Shiva then tells his consort that those who sincerely believe would have their sins cleansed and those that did not would still have them.This is just like saying my grace is sufficient for you.

Now this sthala Purana is an exact copy of the sthala Purana of Benaras or Varanasi.So I do not believe in these copy paste things.However one thing is clear,that the occupation of prostitution was still considered sinful even before 8th century as is evident from the above story.

In pagan Graeco-Roman world,they used to say what the gods do is not applicable to humans.Similiar is the sentiment echoed in the Matsya Purana of Hindus.
Or might be Hindus would place the descriptions of Urvasi in the category of content of corrupted books in the age of Kaliyug.We may never really know.

The only difference might be Hindus did not make it a law or a taboo to exclude prostitutes from visiting temples or from making adultery a crime punishable by stoning to death.
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palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Re: Insulting religion

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Anyway there is no specific temple dedicated to Urvasi in India.She is just known as a celestial dancer in the court of Indra.

And of course bars and restaurants which sometimes might show club dances are named after her.I saw one bar named after her.It lies opposite the Nizam's Institute of Medical sciences in Panjagutta area of Hyderabad.So might be all Hindus do not go up beating those who utter the name of Urvasi.
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palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Re: Insulting religion

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Rambha,Menaka,Urvasi and Tilottama are famous dancers in heaven.Any ordinary Hindu would know them.

They are not anything but just a projection of human imagination of what happened at courts of Hindu kings.You said that Hindu dancers of those times danced half-naked in front of kings.Hindus have never tried to conceal such facts as you can observe from the movie videos given below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hYFPGylLms

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OULQyQbs_nY

They consider that as art patronising though excess indulgence in it might weaken their concentration on military training which might have resulted in their defeat in the hands of muslim invaders.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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