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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby piggy » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:06 pm

About Barry.

From the Obamafile.

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Barack Hussein Obama is a privileged African-American, who has not shared the black American experience. By birth, blood and training, he was a Muslim, who became a member of a Marxist, Black-African church. He is a socialist whose politics are rooted in Marx and whose tactics were conceived by the communist, Alinsky. He is a master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief. He is not now, nor ever has been, a "natural born citizen" -- he was, at birth, a British subject and citizen of Kenya -- this fact is published on his own website.




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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby piggy » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:14 pm

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The bumbling, incompetent usurper exposed yet again ....

Obama, Back-Seat Commander


On the 14th, Blackfive reported that early reports indicated that Obama had hindered the military's rescue of Merchant Marine Captain Phillips.

Flopping Aces now confirms, from first-hand reports, that Obama did indeed restricted Navy SEALs from rescuing the Maersk Alabama's captain with force.

Aces spoke to some SEAL pals in Virginia Beach yesterday and asked why the incident dragged out for 4 days. He was told the following:

1. BHO wouldn’t authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.

2. Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn’t do anything unless the hostage’s life was in "imminent danger."

3. The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction

4. When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions. As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

5. Obama specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge captain and SEAL teams.

6. The Bainbridge captain and SEAL team commander finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage. 4 hours later, 3 dead raggies

7. Obama immediately claimed credit for his "daring and decisive" behavior. As usual with him, it’s BS.


So per our last email thread, I’m downgrading Oohbaby’s performace to D-minus. Only reason it’s not an F is that the hostage survived.

Read the following accurate account.

Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors -- and none was taken.

The guidance from National Command Authority -- Obama -- had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates -- and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a "peaceful solution" would be acceptable.

After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d had enough.

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer -- unnamed in all media reports to date -- decided the AK47 that one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

There is upside, downside, and spinside to the series of events over the last week that culminated in the dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and declared that the dramatic end to the standoff answered questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort.

What should have been a standoff lasting only hours -- as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location -- became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship


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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby THHuxley » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:21 pm

Psycho Bunny wrote:
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piggy wrote:Usurper Barack Obama has signed an executive order presidential determination allowing hundreds of thousands of Palestinians to settle in the United Statesat American taxpayers' expense. .

No he has not. You guys are too stupid to even read simple English.


Sorry Mr H - but I do not understand. Is the article Mr P quoted wrong? Maybe I cannot read....

The article he quoted is nearly a complete fabrication. The "presidential determination" it refers to has nothing even vaguely to do with settling a single Palestinian in the US, at taxpayer's expense or otherwise. THis is patently obvious to anyone who had actually read it.

It is just another example of the idiocy that piggy and her litter mates post. I am being gentle by calling them stupid... its so much nicer than calling them outright liars.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby THHuxley » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:48 pm

piggy wrote:The bumbling, incompetent usurper exposed yet again ....

That article is more pure fiction.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby piggy » Sat Apr 18, 2009 10:52 pm

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Tom Ayers served on board of General Dynamics. General Dynamics now wants "hackers" to work for the Government
by DefendUSx April 18, 2009 10:13

This article just came out from the New York Post Wanted: Computer hackers ... to help government (snippet below):

Federal authorities aren't looking to prosecute them, but to pay them to secure the nation's networks.

General Dynamics Information Technology put out an ad last month on behalf of the Homeland Security Department seeking someone who could "think like the bad guy." Applicants, it said, must understand hackers' tools and tactics and be able to analyze Internet traffic and identify vulnerabilities in the federal systems.

Tom Ayers, father of Obama friend, communist and unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers, served on the General Dynamics Board. As head of the corporation's finance committee, Northern Trust was the trustee of the corporation's Salaried Savings Plan and the Hourly Savings Plan that was overseen by the committee along with fellow members Lester Crown whose son, Jim, and daughter-in-law, Paula, are $200,000 bundlers for Obama's presidential campaign.

Northern Trust Bank is also the same bank that gave Obama his below prime rate home loan for his current mansion.

Many believe General Dynamics was also involved in the "security breach" or tampering with the Obama Passport before the election.


Just after the election, the State Dept. awarded the same company that breached the initial passports to come up with a new Passport technology:

(Source) The State Department awarded a $99.3 million, five-year contract today to a team led by General Dynamics Information Technology to print the passport card.

The contract calls for one base year and five option years. State’s Logistics Management Office, Management Acquisition unit processed the acquisition.

Research is pending on this, but you can already see disturbing connections yet once again.


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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby THHuxley » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:03 pm

piggy wrote:Research is pending on this, but you can already see disturbing connections yet once again.

Translation: "We're still not finished making stuff up yet, so we'll keep on fabricating as many idiotic and specious connections as we possibly can.

After all, since we have no legitimate basis for the psychotic hatred we have of Obama, we have to invent wacky sh!t like this."
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby abdul_haseem » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:21 pm

..and the bleat goes on, and on, and on.......for 163 pages.... Jesus Harold Christ on a rubber most excellent crutch enough already.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby expozIslam » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:39 pm

well it is not atleast a 54 year old butcher mounted on a 9 year old Aishya.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby The Cat » Sat Apr 18, 2009 11:48 pm

Mindstorm wrote:The Cat and some of his fellow travelers have made constant references to "racism" when you don't agree with Obama.

Why don't you just prove it, in my case that is...

So calling him a leftist who I think marches with the Islamists -- is okay in my books.

What is ok in your books is any false analogy you can come with, like this and the one above.

Paranoid Republicans are projecting their own evil ways onto liberals, by Ed Martin.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Parano ... 0-205.html
Republican representative Michelle Bachmann says that the Obama administration's volunteer program for people to work to improve the United States are designed to be "re-education camps"- set up to pervert the minds of innocents to evil liberal values.

Michelle Malkin says that Republicans must be careful not to sign anything presented by anyone at something they're calling a Tea Party rally, since it will be an evil liberal saboteur trying to fool Republicans into signing a petition to promote evil liberal policies. (...) And, only a clinically paranoid Michelle Malkin who is so far out of touch with reality that she would even think it possible that evil liberal saboteurs would want to go to a wingnut rally, much less try to fool a wingnut into signing a petition. Liberals would never think of doing that. They're too smart to fall for that.

Malkin doesn't think her fellow wingnuts are as smart as liberals and have to be warned not to do something really stupid. Only people such as (...), Malkin and the other wingnut Republicans would think of these attempts at perversion of the census, indoctrination in ideology and sabotage of a political rally. The reason they are obsessed with their opponents doing this to them is that they are obsessed with thinking about doing this to their opponents.

Where does this kind of weird, perverted thinking come from? Since it comes from the far-right, Republican wingnuts , it has to have been there within them all along. They are revealing their own wishes about what they would like to do, projecting their own desires on to their opponents. What they are saying says more about them than it does about liberals.

If you want to see what these Republicans would do if they were in power, just listen to what they are falsely accusing their liberal opponents of doing. They are giving us a clear picture of how they would go about gaining and retaining Republican power.

Fortunately for us all, this won't happen for a long, very long, time...
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Mindstorm » Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:28 am

The Cat wrote:
Mindstorm wrote:The Cat and some of his fellow travelers have made constant references to "racism" when you don't agree with Obama.

Why don't you just prove it...


Just go read the last forum.

Then we have Hitler references from a few Obamanuts in this forum. You guys are very creepy.

Forgot to mention your posting from some of the most vile sites on the Web. That is what happens you go crawling around some of the sewers looking for junk to protect Obama.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby The Cat » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:11 am

Mindstorm wrote:
The Cat wrote:
Mindstorm wrote:The Cat and some of his fellow travelers have made constant references to "racism" when you don't agree with Obama.

Why don't you just prove it...

Just go read the last forum.

Then we have Hitler references from a few Obamanuts in this forum. You guys are very creepy.

Forgot to mention your posting from some of the most vile sites on the Web. That is what happens you go crawling around some of the sewers looking for junk to protect Obama.

This comes down to say you've got no prove. It boomerang back to you...

As I've said it's false allegations/analogies all over and back again: the Neocon debating mentality in a cap.

Creepy? Crawling around some sewers? You're mistaking with piggy. As my article says: ''Where does this kind of weird, perverted thinking come from? Since it comes from the far-right, Republican wingnuts , it has to have been there within them all along. They are revealing their own wishes about what they would like to do, projecting their own desires on to their opponents. What they are saying says more about them than it does about liberals.''
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby piggy » Sun Apr 19, 2009 9:24 am

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About Barry.

From the Obamafile.

http://www.theobamafile.com/

Barack Hussein Obama II

Obama's greatest and most enduring attribute is arrogance.

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Who is this guy?

I've read everything I could get my hands on about this guy in the last two years and I know less about him now than I did at the beginning.

Despite his "poor-boy" myth, Obama is a privileged African-American, educated at the finest schools, who has not shared the black American experience. By birth, blood and training, he was a Muslim, who became a member of a Marxist, Black-African church. He's a socialist whose politics are rooted in Marx and whose tactics were conceived by the communist, Alinsky. He's a master at shaping his own mythology, completely unqualified to be Commander in Chief, and, he is not now, nor ever has been, a "natural born citizen."

Let's begin with the original Obama rumor. He's a Muslim.

Is he a Muslim? -- I don't think so. But, I don't think he's a Christian, either.

He's a Marxist -- an Alinsky-style rabble-rouser, and Alinsky described himself as a communist as do many of Obama's closest friends and associates.

Yet, there is a part of Obama that is Muslim. There's the prepubescent youngster who lived in a Muslim household, in a Muslim country, attended a Muslim school, undoubtedly eager to please his peers and teachers, and doing his best to be a good little Muslim boy to please his new step-father.

The Jesuits would say, "Give me the child, and I will mould the man." Here's one Muslim's view -- "he's a Muslim."

And, suddenly, young Obama is in Hawaii -- abandoned by his father, and now, his mother and stepfather.

During the day, he's going to school with the children of the Islands' elites, telling his classmates that his father was an African prince, the leader of a proud and successful people.

During the evening, he's tutored by Frank Marshall Davis -- grampa Stanley's drinkin' buddy -- who assumes the role of father-figure. Under Frank's tutelage, Marx replaced Muhammad.

There's still some Muslim in there somewhere -- some influence -- some sensitivity -- some empathy -- but, he's not a Muslim.

Davis, a radical black communist, fed the impressionable Obama a constant diet of "pissed off" and "blackness" all through his high school years. Davis's parting words to Obama on his leaving for Occidental College were, "college is an advanced degree in compromise" and he warned Obama not to forget his "people" and not to "start believing what they tell you about equal opportunity and the American way and all that sh!t."

Obama, who grew up in a comfortable white household, has struggled to find an identity as a righteous black men ever since. Obama accepted "the pure and heady breeze of privilege" to which he was exposed as a teenager, but rejected his "white skin privilege" -- or at least tried to.

At Occidental, Obama sought out the more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists. However, Occidental wasn't black enough for him and after two years he headed east to Columbia University -- on the edge of Harlem.

Obama's Columbia experience is a complete mystery. No one, absolutely no one, remembers Obama from Columbia -- Fox News asked 400 ex-students and all Fox got was shrugs. There is no picture of him in the yearbook. The only thing we really know about this period is that Obama spent a lot of time at the Marxist-Socialist conferences at Cooper Union and African cultural fairs in Brooklyn.

Obama stopped drugging sometime during the Columbia period. He started abusing marijuana and cocaine at Punahou. "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow when you could afford it. Not smack, though," he wrote.

Obama briefly flirted with New York, doing his first community organizing in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group (NYPIRG). created by Ralph Nader in the 1970s. It's New York State's largest student-directed consumer, environmental and government reform organization.



After Columbia, Obama spent a year in New York and was then hired by a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago. The "Project" was funded by Bill Ayers' Woods Fund, which raises the question, "did Obama meet Ayers" while both were students in New York? They lived and attended school in the same neighborhood.

Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.

Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to, in Alinsky's words, "rub raw the sores of discontent."

Alinsky viewed as supremely important the role of the organizer, or master manipulator, whose guidance was responsible for setting the agendas of the People’s Organization. "The organizer," Alinsky wrote, "is in a true sense reaching for the highest level for which man can reach -- to create, to be a 'great creator,' to play God."

Alinsky wrote, "Rules for Radicals," a book he dedicated to Lucifer, whom he called the "first radical'" For Alinsky, "Change" was his mantra. By "Change," Alinsky meant a quiet, Marxist revolution achieved by slow, incremental, Machiavellian means that turned society inside out. This had to be done through systematic deception, winning the trust of the naively idealistic middle class, and by using the language of morality to conceal an agenda designed to destroy it. And the way to do this, he said, was through "people’s organizations'"

One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an interviewer of The New Republic, about Obama:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."

Watch Obama work a crowd at a town hall meeting. He comes out, says a few words in greeting and then begins his laundry list of all the stuff that's wrong with America, getting the audience all revved up. When the crowd is engaged and sufficiently "pissed off," Obama presents a solution to the all the things that are "pissing them off" -- the chosen one, the anointed one, the Obama -- as president.

Alinsky's goal was to slowly turn the United States into a Communist dictatorship; to this end he tried to convince various groups of poor people and labor unions to push for legislation in that direction; he did this by appealing to their self-interest -- whether valid or not -- instead of using charismatic leadership -- but now we have Obama, who is skilled in the Alinsky method and charismatic.

The unrepentant terrorist, Bill Ayers, was a constant during Obama's "Alinsky" period. Alinsky supplied the method but Bill Ayers supplied the money and the connections to the Chicago Left that allowed Obama to grow his activism into political office. When Obama wasn't agitating, he was elbow to elbow with Bill Ayers on one project or another.

One of Ayers' and Obama's schemes, the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, spent $150 million to radicalize Chicago schoolchildren.

When Obama undertook his agitating work in Chicago's South Side poor neighborhoods, he was un-churched. Yet his office was in a Church and most of the folks he needed to agitate and organize were Church people -- pastors and congregants, who took their churches and their church-going very seriously. Again and again, he was asked by pastors and church ladies, "Where do you go to Church, young man?"

In the paperback version of "The Audacity of Hope," in the chapter entitled "Faith," beginning on page 195, and ending on page 208, Obama is telling us that he doesn’t really have any profound religious belief, but that in his early Chicago days he felt he needed to acquire some spiritual "street cred."

So, at 28, Obama finally joined a church, in part to deepen what one friend called "a whole web of relationships" in the community. It also gave him a strong political base and a well-connected mentor.

Obama didn't join just any church, but a huge black nationalist church, the Trinity United Church of Christ (UCC). Its pastor, Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, a former Muslim and racist black nationalist, unabashedly preached a "black" gospel" and the Marxist "Black Liberation Theology."

Membership in this congregation gives Obama the political cover he needed. He now introduces himself as a Christian, although he has never been baptized.

Swearing allegiance to the "Black Value System" of a church whose foundation is "Black Liberation Theology" does not a Christian make. But it is good politics on the South Side.

Harvard Law School changed everything. Being the first affirmative-action president of the Harvard Law Review netted Obama a book deal -- which he booted -- he spent the money but didn't produce a book -- but he got a second advance and headed off to Bali, Indonesia, to finish his fable, "Dreams From My Father," the source of almost everything we know about Obama.

In the early 90's, Obama married and practiced civil rights law for a couple of years and then, with the publication of "the book," Obama started blossoming out. He cut back on his law practice. He began teaching at the University of Chicago. He chaired the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

And, finally, Obama saw the chance to run for the state senate in a district that included Hyde Park, the home of the University of Chicago and some of the poorest ghettos on the South Side.

Obama challenged hundreds of signatures on his rivals' nominating petitions and kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's four Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot and won unopposed.

The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.

During his run for the Illinois state senate seat, Obama received the endorsement of the Democratic Socialists of America (DSA). Obama was/is an associate of the Chicago branch of the DSA, and a member of the "New Party," and signed documents seeking their support.

Obama has spent his entire political career trying to win the next step up. Every three years, he has aspired to a more powerful political position.

When Obama was considering a run for the US Senate in 2003, he paid an intriguing visit to Emil Jones, Jr., the Illinois Senate Majority Leader.

"You have the power to elect a U. S. senator," Obama told Jones, a former Chicago sewers inspector, who had risen to become one of the most influential African-American politicians in Illinois.

Jones looked at the ambitious young man smiling before him and asked, teasingly: "Do you know anybody I could make a U. S. senator?"

According to Jones, Obama replied: "Me." It was an audacious step in his spectacular rise from the murky political backwaters of Springfield, the Illinois capital.

Jones had served in the Illinois Legislature for three decades. He represented a district on the Chicago South Side not far from Obama's. He became Obama's kingmaker.

Several months before Obama announced his U.S. Senate bid, Jones called his old friend Cliff Kelley, a former Chicago alderman who now hosts the city's most popular black call-in radio program.

I called Kelley last week and he recollected the private conversation as follows:

"He said, 'Cliff, I'm gonna make me a U.S. senator.'"

"Oh, you are? Who might that be?"

"Barack Obama."

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation in the senate, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

"I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen," state senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation, yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. "Barack didn't have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit."

"I don't consider it bill jacking," Hendon told me. "But no one wants to carry the ball 99 yards all the way to the one-yard line, and then give it to the halfback who gets all the credit and the stats in the record book."

Every bill Obama passed as a state senator was passed his last year. During his seventh and final year in the state senate, Obama's stats soared. He sponsored a whopping 26 bills passed into law -- including many he now cites in his presidential campaign when attacked as inexperienced.

It was a stunning achievement that started him on the path of national politics -- and he couldn't have done it without Jones.

When Obama decided to run for the U. S. Senate he was virtually unknown in his own state. Polls showed fewer than 20 percent of Illinois voters had ever heard of Barack Obama.

But he got a boost, when, on June 2004, the billionaire, George Soros threw a big fund-raiser at his New York home for Obama’s Illinois Senate campaign. Soros and family personally chipped in $60,000. No telling what Soros' buddies chipped in.

Then the Democratic Party introduced Barack Obama to the nation on July 27th, 2004, when Obama delivered his now-famous speech before the Democratic National Convention.

During the 2004 senate campaign, Obama ridiculed as "a silly question" whether he would run for president or vice president before his term ends in 2011. "I’ve never worked in Washington," he said. "I can unequivocally say I will not be running for national office in four years, and my entire focus is making sure that I’m the best possible senator on behalf of the people of Illinois."

In November, 2004, Obama was elected to the United States Senate, mostly through the self-destruction of his top opponents in both the primary and general elections.

Almost immediately after his swearing-in Obama's beatification began when Time magazine named Obama one of "The World's Most Influential People." He was listed among other leaders and revolutionaries. The British journal, New Statesman, named Obama one of "10 People Who Could Change the World."

In the first 18 months of his first Senate term Obama was also writing his second book, "The Audacity of Hope." Immediately after finishing it, he built up support for his forthcoming Presidential campaign by campaigning for other Democrats in 2006, took part in a book tour, made a few appearances on entertainment shows, and began his campaign for the presidency. Not much time for doing what he was elected to do -- represent the people of Illinois.

On Tuesday, January 16th, 2007, less than two years after his swearing-in, Obama, who has been repeatedly identified as the most liberal member of the U. S. Senate, took the first step toward running for president by filing papers to create a presidential exploratory committee.

Pretty much, everybody that cares, has watched what has gone on since. The elevation of Obama to cult status as the Obamamessiah. The "we can change the world" slogans and mass crowds. The Alinsky-inspired challenges about "the world as it is, and the world as it should be."

But, there was a downside to the campaign. The Rev. Wright's hateful, racist and anti-American sermons become public and, after 20 years, Obama swore he didn't know anything about it, saying, "I wasn't in church that day."

The names Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn bubbled up and Obama went, "Who?"

His pal and money-man Rezko was found guilty and Obama said, "What?"

The Annenberg Challenge? The only executive experience Obama has, is missing from his resume.



ACORN? Nuts!

Obama doesn't know anybody or anything.

Have you noticed? Obama doesn't have any close friends. Obama doesn't have a "best friend," a pal or a buddy, who goes back to Punahou, or Occidental, or Columbia, or Harvard, or the projects -- not one.

But, the people that are around Obama all have one thing in common -- they all hate America -- and there's a bunch of them that are hard-core communists.

His wife (Michelle), his mentor (Davis), his druggy buddy (Rafik), his pastor (Wright), his other pastors (Pfleger, Meeks, Watts), his associates (Ayers, Dohrn, Klonsky) or his supporters at the Daily Kos and Code Pink all have one thing in common -- they all hate America -- and they all say so, all the time -- and Obama feigns surprised that anyone would question his patriotism, even as he disrespects his country's symbols.

Obama and all his friends have clearly stated their goals. America, as it is and has been, needs to change and the change they have in mind is socialism -- at best.

I know this is true, because these people have repeatedly and clearly said so. They're all up to their ears in the "quiet revolution," first described by the Italian Marxist, Antonio Gramsci, and they feel it is at hand. They can taste victory and it all hinges on Barack Hussein Obama.

The mainstream media provides cover for Obama. It has completely abrogated its role and responsibility to vet him.

On the Internet, there is an organized, systematic cleansing of Obama-related content.

Every couple of days I get an email telling me this link, or that link, connects to a "Page not found -- 404 error." The extensive body of Obama web-knowledge, that has evolved over the last 20 years, is shrinking. Stuff that's considered an Obama smear or unflattering is sent to the Obama '08 cyber shredding machine. And the campaign is getting help from some really big web service providers.

A good example is Kristof's famous New York Times article, in which Kristof quotes Obama saying that the Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth" and in which Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent" -- that's gone -- from The New York Times (It's here though).

And, the Trinity UCC website has completely changed. Now, it's all sweetness and light. Gone are all those great Rev. Wright "God damn America" videos and anti-Israeli Trumpet magazine excerpts.

Obama has lived for 48 years without leaving any footprints -- none! There is no Obama documentation -- no bona fides -- no paper trail -- nothing.

Original, vault copy birth certificate -- Not released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released -- Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Obama/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released
Soetoro adoption records -- Not released

Soetoro/Dunham divorce -- Released (by independent investigators)
Fransiskus Assisi School School application -- Released
Punahou School records -- Not released
Selective Service Registration -- Released -- Counterfeit
Occidental College records -- Not released
Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released
Columbia College records -- Not released
Columbia thesis -- Not released
Harvard College records -- Not released
Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, unsigned?)
Baptism certificate -- None
Medical records -- Not released
Illinois State Senate records -- None
Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost
Law practice client list -- Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None

The Illinois State Archives told Judicial Watch that they never received any request from Senator Obama to archive any records in his possession. In 2007, Obama told Tim Russert that his records were "not kept."

And there's less on the web every day. In time, the entire Obama body of knowledge will consist of 3 documents -- "Dreams From My Father" -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- and the latest -- "Change We Can Believe In" -- all written by Barack Hussein Obama or his "ghost-writers."

Obama is an immensely talented man whose talents have been largely devoted to crafting, and chronicling, his own life. Not things. Not ideas. Not institutions. Just himself.

So, you can understand why I say, I know less about Obama now than I did at the beginning. The critical stuff is disappearing and all we have left is Obama's idealized version of events. Now, this undocumented stranger, who has repeatedly been rewarded for the work of others, is sitting in the Oval Office.



All evidence points to the fact that Obama, who finds it hard to praise the United States for any achievement without mentioning some sin or grave shortcoming for balance, is, by law, not even eligible for POTUS because he is not a "natural born citizen" of the United States.

And, Obama is already building a cadre to lead his own "private army" -- his own "Movement."

His "Movement" is structure around Alinsky's "people's organization" and training programs designed to build a core group of "community organizers" dedicated to "social change" in their communities.

Their charter will be to bring about "Change." They'll do this through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation -- getting people "pissed off" -- the tactics of Alinsky.

Obama is cloning thousands of baby Obamas -- a "people’s organization" -- and on our dime. He's got an Internet database of 3 million names that can be pointed at -- or away from -- an issue at the drop of a database-generated email.

A "movement" -- dedicated to social change by getting people "pissed off" -- and there will be thousands of them in the neighborhoods and hundreds of thousands more on the Internet.

Just what do you think he has planned for these guys?

Remember this?

On July 2nd, 2008, Obama spoke in Colorado Springs and hit themes of national service, foreign policy, and national security. In that vein, Obama proposed a rather extraordinary idea -- that the US should spend as much money on a civilian national security force as it does on the military. (video)


"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."


And what color shirts will they wear?

Lenin said this about socialism, "The goal of socialism is communism."


None of this is good.


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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Mindstorm » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:00 am

The Cat wrote:Creepy? Crawling around some sewers?


You bet, you have been.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Mindstorm » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:05 am

Obamatopia

"Does our president truly grasp why certain nations hate us - or does he really believe it's all Bush's fault?"

April 19, 2009 - by Victor Davis Hanson

One wonders whether President Obama grasps why certain nations hate us. Does he really believe that in the pre-Bush era we all got long (cf. his al Arabiya interview); then Bush’s strutting, unilateralism, and preemption, presto, caused anti-Americanism?

Take Iran. It wants to be the preeminent regional power in the Middle East, and win for the Persian Shiites the mantle of Islamic frontline leadership in the long war to destroy Israel. That requires oil revenue, sponsorship of terror, and nuclear weaponry.

Despite Bill Clinton’s past ramblings, it is not democratic; instead, prescreened, preapproved candidates are confirmed by plebiscites, and civil liberties are nonexistent as we know them. The history of Khomeinism is one of executing thousands of Shah-supporters, sending tens of thousands to their deaths in mass wave attacks in Iraq, and using surrogate Hezbollah and Shiite operatives to blow up Americans from Lebanon to Iraq. In other words, a democratic internationalist America stands in the way of their megalomaniac aspirations.

After the Carter humiliations, the Reagan disaster with Iran-Contra, the Clinton feeble attempts at appeasement, Americans gave up on the Khomeinists, and more or less hoped to distinguish the Iranian people from their theocracy, talk up democratic change, and contain the mullahs’ terrorist aspirations. We can do this adroitly or clumsily, but existential differences will remain nonetheless—until a change in ideology on their or our part. Either they reenter the family of nations, or we redefine the family of nations to include thugocracies.

And now? What is there to negotiate over? How soon they can have the bomb? Triangulation with them over Israel? Promises to quit sending shaped charges into Iraq to kill more Americans.

Why does Hugo Chavez hate us? Is it because Bush’s ‘dead or alive’ed him or ‘with us or against us”ed him? Hardly. Chavez wants to end democracy in Venezuela for good, turn it into a Cuba-like communist dictatorship, use his oil revenues to whip up liberationist, anti-Yanqui feelings throughout South America, and end up with himself as some sort of messianic caudillo of the entire socialist continent.

Sound crazy? No more crazy than the daily Chavez communiqués. Again, by good or bad diplomacy we can soothe or excite him–but otherwise his aims are antithetical to the notion of democratic, capitalist states, with close ties to the North American democracies.

We can ditto all this with North Korea, Cuba, Russia, Syria, etc. So far all the Obama apologies for the sins of his own country (note always before he came on the scene), the serial “Bush did it” invective, the promises of a brave new Obama transnational world, the evocation of his middle name, and non-traditional lineage, and shared demagoguery against “them” (Wall Street, the greedy, the unpatriotic who make over the mythical trip wire $250,000), have not, and will not, change much abroad. Has Cuba promised to release prisoners, or apologized for all those killed? Has Chavez vowed to restore constitutional governance and quit subversion of his neighbors?

Elsewhere did the “their old America did it, not my new one” Obama approach calm the waters with anything? Russians helping out to prevent a nuclear Iran, or stopping the killing of dissidents abroad, or promises not to bully the former Soviet republics? More European combat units going to Afghanistan? Mexico vowing to curb illegal immigration? Turkey ceasing its new anti-Western Islamic screeds?

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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Mindstorm » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:12 am

Castro, Chavez, Alinsky and Ayers

Obama’s Peeps!

By JB Williams Saturday, April 18, 2009

[emphasis added]

A few weeks ago, the Obama administration made it clear to the world, that they do not consider people like Bin Laden, or organizations like Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad or Hamas, to be “terrorists” and went so far as to rename the international “war on terror,” the “overseas contingency operation,” so as not to further offend any of these folks.

Then, his Department of Homeland Security issued a new “terror report” redefining “terrorists” to include legal American citizens openly opposed to illegal immigration, abortion, socialism, and people who trample on their First, Second, Ninth and Tenth Amendment Rights, aka, “rightwing extremists.” The Founders were “Domestic Terrorists” According to Obama’s DHS

Now, Obama Seeks Equal Partnerships in Hemisphere, namely, with Castro’s Communist Cuba and Communist thug Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, both of whom despise everything America is or ever was… and always will.

Unless of course, Obama is successful in his massive effort to reduce the United States to “equal” status with third world communist dictatorships, in which case, he will most certainly be a hero to folks like Chavez and Castro.

Over a million American taxpayers, of all political stripes and walks of life, took to American streets to protest the direction of the new administration and its efforts to reduce America to equal third world status, economically, militarily, in every way possible. The Obama administration belittled and ridiculed the historic events…

Obama was not only elected under his political idol’s Rules for Radicals, he governs by these rules.

Saul Alinsky’s 1971 book Rules for Radicals, provides a collection of rules to guide the process. But he emphasizes these rules must be translated into real-life tactics that are fluid and responsive to the situation at hand.

1. “Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.”

2. “Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat....”

3. “Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty.

4. “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity.”

5. “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage.”

6. “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

7. “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time....”

8. “Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.”

9. “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

10. “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign.”

11. “If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside… every positive has its negative.”

12. “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and ‘frozen.’…

The fact that Obama’s administration uses these tactics not against Islamic terrorists, or third world communist dictators, but instead, average freedom loving American citizens, is maybe the most telling fact concerning the man and his administration.


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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Mindstorm » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:18 am

"Barack Obama Mentions Reagan in his Speeches but Acts More Like Lenin"

We Had A Patriotic President Once

By Mark Harvey Friday, April 17, 2009

Indeed, at one time, we had a man of conviction and courage in the White House and his name was Ronald Wilson Reagan. I am not exactly sure what happened between the time he left office up until this point in time but I am sure it has something to do with American Progressivism which pretty much started with Teddy Roosevelt, expanded by Woodrow Wilson and was launched full-bore by Franklin Roosevelt. The wand was picked up again with Jimmy Carter, expanded by George Bush 1 and once more, brought full-bore by Bill Clinton. George Bush 2 expanded it a little more but not full-bore when compared to his father.

And then, we have Barack Hussein Obama, a nobody and a do nothing community organizer from the slums of south Chicago which, by the way, are still slums with the same issues before Barack “organized” them. So, his claim to fame is failure and because of that, he is going to bring failure as a National Treasure. This Marxist, no matter the spin from himself or any of his army of deniers, is the culmination of anti-American activities in this nation. There can be no denying that fact with the proof in the pudding.

Obama went to Mexico and lied again and said that he isn’t pursuing banning assault weapons. He did say that he still believed the bans are good but it would be too hard to get it passed. That’s poli-speak for BOHICA, bend over here it comes again. Any sane individual knows that banning weapons from law-abiding citizens doesn’t cure anything and is only window dressing for a failed policy. Question: what is an assault weapon? I’m just curious.

[…] “I have not backed off at all from my belief that the assault weapons ban made sense,” Obama said at a news conference with Calderón. “But none of us is under the illusion that reinstating that ban would be easy. So what we have focused on is how we can improve our enforcement of existing laws,” Obama said.


Obama said he would try to get lawmakers to approve a treaty against arms trafficking, which was signed by President Clinton in 1997 but has never been ratified by the Senate.

And there you have it. Decoded poli-speak. We need a Treaty. That will fix it. Have you read the Treaty?

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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby THHuxley » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:13 pm

Steed wrote:Mr. Huxley did not give any creedence to the final report by Ron Polarik that claimed to expose the COLB posted on Obama supporting websites as a phony.

This is first and foremost because "Polarik" is, himself a phony. He is an anonymous internet hack with no experience whatsoever with the field of forensic science or examination of digital images. His (often altered) resume is a fake, his personal back story has been changed so many times it appears that he makes it up as he goes. He can't, from post to post, even remember what fields his supposed PhDs are in.

Steed wrote:Mr. Huxley then suggested that I go through Dr. Neal Krawetz's report there with a critical eye and argue against it.

Steed is hallucinating.

It was Steed that insisted I provide a point by point rebuttal to "Polarik's" nonsense. I decline and referred him instead to Dr. Krawetz (a real expert with a real name and real resume). I never for a second suggest he argue against it, because he and I both know he is completely incompetent to do so. Apparently, Steed understands neither Polarik's report or Krawetz's rebuttal of it.

Steed wrote:I wanted to do so, and I tried, but I found it too boring and difficult.

See? I told you.

The bottom line is this. Obama's COLB has been declared absolutely authentic by every single person who has examined the actual document. It is, by law, absolute legal proof of Obama's citizenship at birth.

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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby THHuxley » Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:34 pm

It's fascinating to see the absolute lies and inventions that the Obamahaters are obligated to resort to in their psychotic frothing against the evil Obama. There is no shortage of legitimate policy differences between Obama and the Republican Right... so you would expect a lively and contentious debate... but that's not what I'm talking about.

Genuine debates about policy are about policy, not people. But the Obamahaters on this thread are incapable of intelligently attacking anything other than the person. The profoundly stupid essays and articles posted by Mindstorm, Pragmatist, Steed and piggy are incapable of lasting more than a paragraph without exposing their true motives... and it is almost never genuinely about policy.

It is about how much they hate Obama as a person.

Now... if our resident quartet had an honorable motive among them, why would they need to depend so heavily on falsehood's, lies and fiction? I mean, if Obama was really that bad, why would they feel obligated to make up such idiotic and vacuous stuff? Shouldn't there be enough things to be irate about that are actually true?

It sucks to be an Obamahater. To be constantly reminded how badly exiled they are to the wilderness of national and international political relevance.

It does not matter how much they hate either Obama or his policies. He is President of the US for at least the next four and probably eight years. His party has firm control of the congress, and can do whatever they want regardless if the Republicans choose to be participants or merely whine from the sidelines, hold tea parties, and make angry phone calls to the Rush Limbaugh show.

The American people elected him, support him and to a large part agree with him. Many of his actions that the fearful foursome abhor are exactly the actions the American people elected him to execute. Get used to it.

Last night we had our annual Founder's Day dinner here in Denver, celebrating the founding of the US Military Academy by Thomas Jefferson in 1802. There were more than 500 West Point graduates present, ranging from the class of 1949 to new kids that will matriculate this summer with the class of 2013.The traditional toasts began (as the do at all Army gatherings) with an enthusiastic toast to our Commander-in-Chief.

And there is nothing the Birthers can do about that either.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby Equestrian » Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:54 pm

THHuxley wrote:It's fascinating to see the absolute lies and inventions that the Obamahaters are obligated to resort to in their psychotic frothing against the evil Obama.


whats truly fascinating is that you rarely, if ever, support your accusations. You'll forgive me if I don't take your word at face value, please point out the "lies" so that we can determine if they are actually lies.

THHuxley wrote:It is about how much they hate Obama as a person.


Ah, the proverbial Orwellian thought police. Please read my mind too, will you?

THHuxley wrote:It sucks to be an Obamahater. To be constantly reminded how badly exiled they are to the wilderness of national and international political relevance.


Huxster the thought police has convicted all of you villains on this thread as "Obamahaters." The debate is now officially over. Move on now and no more criticism of the Messiah. Strange how Huxster the thought police has not issued a single "hatecard" to any of those nice people on the Bush bashing thread. Odd, indeed.
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Re: The one and only Obama thread ( continued)

Postby planck » Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:03 pm

THHuxley wrote:It's fascinating to see the absolute lies and inventions that the Obamahaters are obligated to resort to in their psychotic frothing against the evil Obama. There is no shortage of legitimate policy differences between Obama and the Republican Right... so you would expect a lively and contentious debate... but that's not what I'm talking about.

Genuine debates about policy are about policy, not people. But the Obamahaters on this thread are incapable of intelligently attacking anything other than the person. The profoundly stupid essays and articles posted by Mindstorm, Pragmatist, Steed and piggy are incapable of lasting more than a paragraph without exposing their true motives... and it is almost never genuinely about policy.

It is about how much they hate Obama as a person.

Now... if our resident quartet had an honorable motive among them, why would they need to depend so heavily on falsehood's, lies and fiction? I mean, if Obama was really that bad, why would they feel obligated to make up such idiotic and vacuous stuff? Shouldn't there be enough things to be irate about that are actually true?

It sucks to be an Obamahater. To be constantly reminded how badly exiled they are to the wilderness of national and international political relevance.

It does not matter how much they hate either Obama or his policies. He is President of the US for at least the next four and probably eight years. His party has firm control of the congress, and can do whatever they want regardless if the Republicans choose to be participants or merely whine from the sidelines, hold tea parties, and make angry phone calls to the Rush Limbaugh show.

The American people elected him, support him and to a large part agree with him. Many of his actions that the fearful foursome abhor are exactly the actions the American people elected him to execute. Get used to it.

Last night we had our annual Founder's Day dinner here in Denver, celebrating the founding of the US Military Academy by Thomas Jefferson in 1802. There were more than 500 West Point graduates present, ranging from the class of 1949 to new kids that will matriculate this summer with the class of 2013.The traditional toasts began (as the do at all Army gatherings) with an enthusiastic toast to our Commander-in-Chief.

And there is nothing the Birthers can do about that either.

HERE HERE!!!!!

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Listen up everyone. There is no one on the internet that is smarter than the estimable Huxley. And he has decreed from henceforth that it,

"It does not matter how much they hate either Obama or his policies. He is President of the US for at least the next four and probably eight years. His party has firm control of the congress, and can do whatever they want regardless if the Republicans choose to be participants or merely whine from the sidelines, hold tea parties, and make angry phone calls to the Rush Limbaugh show."

So let's take his lead and cease from here on out any possible criticism of our president. It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to criticize obama, his administration, or the democrats. Can't you people understand that the people voted for a new change and hope in america. If you're a republican or hold conservative right-wing views, you are more often than not a narrow-minded, racist or religious zealot.

It's 2009 folks. Obama has the best interest for our country at heart and his "change" is exactly what is needed at this moment. He should be elected to a second term and maybe if we repeal the 22 amendment, indefinitely.

People, I beg you to think about it. Democrats are good and republicans are evil. The press has figured this out a long time ago. Why do you think that the majority of the news press in the US support obama.

I know I know, you're all going to say: "Well, why didn't the left-wing acquiesce to republican policies when George was elected?"

It's simple, George was a republican which means that he is a racist/fascist/bigot/christian nazi. Now that the country is in good, left-wing, democrat hands-----we need to embrace socialism, massive government spending, high-taxes, socialized health-care, and deficits as far as the eye can see.

Let's just all unite, now in 2009. Let's stop criticizing obama. Dissent is absolutely unnecessary at this point--in fact, we should outlaw dissent. I think we should take it a step further and allow only democrats or candidates who support obama on the ballot in any future election. Let's make this a one-party, one-ideology, nation.

Who's with me?
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