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That's your opinion only.ixolite wrote:It was so nice here WITHOUT an Obama-conspiracy-thread, but you just HAD to ruin it.
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FYI, it was all debunked in the old thread:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48975
But I am sure Hux & Co. will debunk it yet another time. And off we go to the next 100 pages. :-|
Nope.piggy wrote:That's your opinion only.ixolite wrote:It was so nice here WITHOUT an Obama-conspiracy-thread, but you just HAD to ruin it.
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FYI, it was all debunked in the old thread:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48975
But I am sure Hux & Co. will debunk it yet another time. And off we go to the next 100 pages. :-|
I concur.....please Hux.....do not post anymore of your detailed rebuttal, as you would be simply wasting your time and board space.ixolite wrote:Nope.piggy wrote:That's your opinion only.ixolite wrote:It was so nice here WITHOUT an Obama-conspiracy-thread, but you just HAD to ruin it.
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FYI, it was all debunked in the old thread:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48975
But I am sure Hux & Co. will debunk it yet another time. And off we go to the next 100 pages. :-|
Btw, the same crap again?How many times you already posted this? About a million? FYI, repeating it doesn't make it more true.
You persist with side-line irrelevant snide remarks ............ why don't you address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship? .............. or you gonna run and hide behind chief-obamabot, Hux?ixolite wrote:Nope.piggy wrote:That's your opinion only.ixolite wrote:It was so nice here WITHOUT an Obama-conspiracy-thread, but you just HAD to ruin it.
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FYI, it was all debunked in the old thread:
http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48975
But I am sure Hux & Co. will debunk it yet another time. And off we go to the next 100 pages. :-|
Btw, the same crap again?How many times you already posted this? About a million? FYI, repeating it doesn't make it more true.
Why don't YOU address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship? .............. or you gonna run and hide too behind chief-obamabot, Hux?SkepticOfBible wrote:
I concur.....please Hux.....do not post anymore of your detailed rebuttal, as you would be simply wasting your time and board space.
You think Americans are stupid? If what you say is true, Obama would have been disqualified when he ran for the nomination in the Democratic Party. This is so absurd.Steed wrote:I don't even know if his name is legally Barack Obama. In Indonesia, after being legally adopted by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro, it was Barry Soetoro.
If he is sworn in as President on January 20th using the name Barack Hussein Obama instead of his legal name, that too could get him in trouble. A POTUS is supposed to be someone virtuous, not a fraudster.
From now on I think we should call him Barry Soetoro, or "the politician previously known as Obama".
piggy wrote:You persist with side-line irrelevant snide remarks
piggy wrote:chief-obamabot, Hux
I linked to the old thread, didn't I?piggy wrote:............ why don't you address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship?
What IS obvious is that you don't have an argument on the matter at hand and the best you can do is make useless and irrelevant ad hominem comments which de-rail the thread.ixolite wrote:piggy wrote:You persist with side-line irrelevant snide remarkspiggy wrote:chief-obamabot, Hux![]()
I linked to the old thread, didn't I?piggy wrote:............ why don't you address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship?
I freely admit, I do not have the patience of Hux, that's why I am greatful that he and the others are debunking your stuff (or should I say spam by now?) over and over again. And they obviously hit some nerves doing so.
Do you have a proof that Obama is going to impose heavy taxes in the USA? What did Obama say to make you think so? Under George Bush, the outgoing president the USA has increased its debt by 4 trillion dollars, yes 4 (FOUR) TRILLION DOLLARS. Do you have an idea how much 4 trillion dollars mean? If I were to spend one million dollars everyday (yes everyday) it will take me 2739 years and 9 months.King_Arthur wrote:I doubt if Obama could have cheated the FBI and CIA. He should be geniune ie. legal.
But his policies are dangerous. Already it is spreading to other countries.
Already Gordon Brown is talking of Obama style heavy taxation and centralisation.
This has to be stopped.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.htmlSalvationist wrote:The Hawaii's state health director has confirmed that she has personally seen and verified Obama's original birth certificate. It's good enough for me.
Is it going to change your mind?...After like 300 pages, it didn't, did it?Why don't YOU address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship? .............. or you gonna run and hide too behind chief-obamabot, Hux?
Allow me to highlight the relevant conclusionhttp://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html
I have high-lighted in red the points of interest and inserted my comments .............
but rather a certification of extracted and limited information
In response to your conspirancy theories allegation, once again from your articleDid you know that the initial information that is entered on a birth record may be that of a lay-person and may not be verified by any official or responsible person at the time?
Obama himself openly said he was going to increase taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. He also said he is going to increase capital gain taxes. Ok Bush did a bad job. But Obama should try to avoid imposing heavy taxes or centralizing the economy. The reason USA is in this mess is because of large corporations. Government is an even larger organization than a corporation. How will it run successfully. Government should only regulate not run the economy. Bush did fail to regulate the economy. Obama's answer is to run the economy. He should just try to regulate the economy well and allow the best people to run the economy.Ram wrote:Do you have a proof that Obama is going to impose heavy taxes in the USA? What did Obama say to make you think so? Under George Bush, the outgoing president the USA has increased its debt by 4 trillion dollars, yes 4 (FOUR) TRILLION DOLLARS. Do you have an idea how much 4 trillion dollars mean? If I were to spend one million dollars everyday (yes everyday) it will take me 2739 years and 9 months.
For starters fastcheck does not determine who is eligible for citizenship nor does fastcheck's opinion have any sway.SkepticOfBible wrote:Is it going to change your mind?...After like 300 pages, it didn't, did it?Why don't YOU address the issue of the COLB being illegally accepted as 'proof' of citizenship? .............. or you gonna run and hide too behind chief-obamabot, Hux?
Allow me to highlight the relevant conclusionhttp://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html
I have high-lighted in red the points of interest and inserted my comments .............
but rather a certification of extracted and limited information
We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship. Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as "supporting documents" to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.
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Update, August 26:
We received responses to some of our questions from the Hawaii Department of Health. ........
" He also confirmed that the information in the short form birth certificate is sufficient to prove citizenship for "all reasonable purposes."
So the facts are
1) A non partison independent expert(factcheck.org), which you cited to make your case, has concluded Obama is a US born citizen
2) The US Supreme Court is satisfied that Obama is natural born citizen
Why should anyone believe what you say, when the two authorities/experts who have more knowledge about US law and consititution than you, have concluded that Obama is natural born citizen of the US and is therefore elible to run the office of the POTUS?
At the end of the day, I am not a US citizen, so I don't really care, and as far as I can tell, neither do most Americans.
In response to your conspirancy theories allegation, once again from your articleDid you know that the initial information that is entered on a birth record may be that of a lay-person and may not be verified by any official or responsible person at the time?
Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.