George Floyd, Black Lives Mattter and Antifa

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Meanwhile, in Stockholm, Sweden, a 12 year old girl was shot dead in a armed shoot-out between rival criminal gangs....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... weden.html


It barely made the papers, and you need to really to look to find something about it. In 2019, there were some 42 deaths in 334 reported shootings in Sweden. In the same year there were 162 bomb attacks. many stabbings, the numbers are withheld by the government, and of course 5930 rapes.

But all these lives do not matter either, they are not black.
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Nolte: Magnificent Mile Riots, Looting Hit Democrat-Run Chicago

“Hundreds of people swept through the Magnificent Mile and other parts of downtown Chicago early Monday, smashing windows, looting stores,” reports the Chicago Tribune.

There was also gunfire and violence against police officers. As of this writing, downtown Chicago is all but closed to those trying to get to work on a Monday morning.

The details reveal just how organized this was….

The looting and rioting started just after midnight and lasted “nearly five hours.” Get this…

“People darted through broken store windows and doors along Michigan Avenue carrying shopping bags full of merchandise,” the Tribune reports, adding, “Cars dropped off more people as the crowd grew. At least one U-Haul van was seen pulling up.”

People being dropped off like it was just another morning at Looting School.
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People load merchandise into a car near a looted Best Buy store after parts of the city had widespread looting and vandalism, on August 10, 2020 in Chicago, Illinois. Police made several arrests during the night of unrest and recovered at least one firearm.

Hundreds of them. All at once.

This was not spontaneous.

What we appear to have in Chicago is one more act of organized, left-wing terrorism, similar to what we are seeing in other Democrat-run cities, most especially Portland.

ABC7 has videos of the looting and video of the sound of gunfire, as well as video of a foursome of looters dragging an ATM down Lake Street right, near the legendary Chicago Theater.

According to a police spokesman, “someone fired shots at responding officers and police returned fire.”

Both videos feature looters yelling things like “**** the police.” According to the Tribune “in at least two spots graffiti against the police was seen.”

So there appears to be a political motivation behind this.

To get a sense of just how bad things are, the Tribune further reports “People were seen running out of a PNC Bank, its windows smashed.” On top of that a Sally Beauty Supply was “cleaned out,” “Crowds repeatedly tried to bash in the windows of the Omega watch store,” and a “group of people went in and out through a broken window of the Louis Vuitton store.”

Hitting Chicago’s Magnificent Mile is no accident. It is the jewel of Downtown Chicago, one of the most famous shopping districts in the world. If retailers lose faith the police can protect them from criminal marauders and flee the area, it will serve as more than just a symbolic victory for the left-wing terrorists in Antifa and Black Lives Matter.

As of this writing, the after-effects of the night’s terrorism are now hitting law-abiding Chicagoans who are just trying to make it to work during the Monday morning rush hour. Train and bus service into downtown has been shut off. Both bridges that cross the Chicago River are raised. State police have blocked freeway exits into downtown.

As someone who is pretty familiar with Chicago (it’s my favorite city), and who has driven many times through the Windy City’s normal rush hour traffic, the chaos occurring right now, the godawful mess working people are stuck in is beyond my comprehension.

But “chaos” is, of course, a big part of the left’s goal. It’s not just the looting these domestic terrorists crave, it’s not just the goodies — the socialist revolution demands chaos, disruption, agony, despair, inconvenience.

Everyday Americans must be punished, must be made to suffer for our bourgeois sins — like just wanting to be left alone to enjoy the fruits of our hard work; just wanting to live a decent, quiet life…

For those wondering what Chicago’s Democrat Mayor Lori Lightfoot focused on over the weekend as these terrorists were organizing, she was shaming young people — who are in no more danger from the coronavirus than they are from the flu — for going to the beach.
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As of today, the Seattle City Council has defunded at least 100 cops and the Chief of Police has resigned.

But many Americans don't take it any longer, and they are protesting.

Hundreds of Defend Seattle PD supporters outside of Seattle City Hall. The silent majority is speaking out!

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Let's hope that these protesters won't vote democrat in November.
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Unholy alliance

BLM, Islamist and communist against the west.

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manfred wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:28 am
Meanwhile, in Stockholm, Sweden, a 12 year old girl was shot dead in a armed shoot-out between rival criminal gangs....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... weden.html


It barely made the papers, and you need to really to look to find something about it. In 2019, there were some 42 deaths in 334 reported shootings in Sweden. In the same year there were 162 bomb attacks. many stabbings, the numbers are withheld by the government, and of course 5930 rapes.

But all these lives do not matter either, they are not black.
Did these things not happen when the lower class of Europe was white ,prior to the second world war?People of the old forum even defended the fact that Christianity of Europe prior to patronisation by Rome was predominantly a religion of the lower class in the then pagan Graeco-Roman world.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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You miss the point I was making entirely. Compare the reaction of people after the death of George Floyd to the one after this girl.
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manfred wrote:
Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:51 pm
You miss the point I was making entirely. Compare the reaction of people after the death of George Floyd to the one after this girl.
What is her race?Is she colored or is she white.Did they intentionally/deliberately shoot her or was it an accident?
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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There is a link you know....
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manfred wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:09 am
There is a link you know....
Her death was accidental as she happened to be caught in the crossfire.It was not wanton/deliberate or intentional.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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And George Floyd was deliberate?
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The attorney for former Minneapolis police officer charged in the death of GeorgeFloyd said charges should be dropped, arguing that Floyd allegedly died from a drug overdose.
Defense Lawyer Says George Floyd Ingested Lethal Amount of Fentanyl

The attorney for one of four former Minneapolis police officers charged in the death of George Floyd said charges should be dropped, arguing that Floyd allegedly died from a drug overdose.

Thomas Lane is facing charges of aiding and abetting second-degree murder and aiding and abetting second-degree manslaughter during Floyd’s May 25 death.

“All he had to do is sit in the police car, like every other defendant who is initially arrested. While attempting to avoid his arrest, all by himself, Mr. Floyd overdosed on Fentanyl,” Gray wrote in the motion. “Given his intoxication level, breathing would have been difficult at best. Mr. Floyd’s intentional failure to obey commands, coupled with his overdosing, contributed to his own death.”

In his argument, Gray said bodycamera footage from Lane showed that Floyd had a “white spot on the left side of his tongue” that appears to show “2 milligrams of fentanyl, a lethal dose.”

Gray stated that when Floyd turns his head away between 20:09:45 and 20:09:48 in the video, the white spot is gone.

According to the Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office (pdf), “fentanyl intoxication” contributed to the 46-year-old Minneapolis man’s death. Other contributing factors include arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease and “recent methamphetamine use.”

His cause of death was listed as “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression,” while his manner of death was listed by the office as “homicide.” Other reports said that he previously contracted COVID-19, the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus.

Independent investigators hired by the Floyd family said he died in a homicide at the scene of the incident as a result of officer Derek Chauvin’s knee on his neck, which was depicted in a now-viral video and sparked months of nationwide unrest.

Chauvin was charged with second-degree murder and manslaughter, while two other officers identified as Tou Thao and J. Alexander Kueng were charged with aiding and abetting.
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INTERESTING RELATED MATTER

So what happened to THIS progressive holy grail?

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DHS leaked email confirms Antifa is an organized group

The email explains that Antifa is organized and runs contrary to reports in the mainstream media that Antifa was not responsible for anti-police violence.

An internal email from the Department of Homeland Security leaked to CBS Catherine Herridge late Monday detailing that the violence in Portland was not "opportunistic," but rather "organized"—confirming long-suspected details about the Antifa movement.

The email explains that Antifa is organized and runs contrary to reports in the mainstream media that Antifa was not responsible for anti-police violence, but an impromptu movement spurred on by anti-fascist sentiments held by most of the American public.

A recent article in the Washington Post by Mark Bray, author of Antifa: Anti-Fascist Handbook, attempted to dispel "myths" about Antifa, claims that the group is not an organization, but rather a "tradition of militant antifascism." The article disputed claims that Antifa "masterminds violence at Black Lives Matter protests."

In printed email documents attained by Herridge, the DHS' Acting Under Secretary for Intelligence & Analysis Brian Murphy wrote to his colleagues on July 25 detailing his findings of Antifa in Portland.


Murphy urged for an immediate change of definitions for the violent activity in Portland following a review of the individuals arrested by federal authorities, as well as intelligence surrounding their affiliations and activities.

"The individuals are violently attacking the Federal facilities based on these ideologies," he said in regards to Antifa, which he classed as VAAI or "VIOLENT ANTIFA ANARCHISTS INSPIRED."

"We can't say any longer that this violent situation is opportunistic," wrote Murphy. "Additionally, we have overwhelmingly intelligence regarding the ideologies driving individuals towards violence and why the violence has continued."

"A core set of Threat actors are organized, show up night after night, share common TTPs and drawing on like minded individuals to their cause."

TTP stands for Tactics, Techniques and Procedures.

"I recognize we may not be able to attribute every individual as VAAI however we need to look at the totality of the intelligence both current and previous and recognize the motivation for the violence and why people have shown up to commit violence for about 60 days. And why the individuals are using social media to encourage the VAAI on the ground to carry out acts of violence."

The nightly riots in Portland numbered at sixty days when the email was composed. Rioting has shifted from Portland to other cities with some of the same actors, including Washington DC, Seattle, and Kenosha—violence of which was spurred largely by pro-Antifa advocates on social media platforms like Facebook, Twitch, and Twitter.

"Threat actors who are motivated by Anarchist or ANTIFA (or a combination of both) ideologies to carry out acts of violence against State, Local, and Federal authorities and infrastructure they believe represent authority or represent political and social ideas they reject," Murphy concluded.

Phrases like "Every city, every town. Burn the precincts to the ground" are a common refrain at Black Lives Matter rallies, and have been chanted during arson attacks on the Portland Police Bureau, the Mark O. Hatfield federal courthouse in Portland, and other facilities where Antifa and Black Lives Matter militants were present.

The intelligence provided by the DHS validates claims by conservative voices who have long identified Antifa as an organized movement, and flies in the face of claims that the group was not intent on committing violence or conducting an insurgency against the United States government.
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:wot: Idiots.
Seattle BLM takes over Trader Joe's, protesting 'lack of access to grocery stores'

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Black Lives Matter activists occupied a Trader Joe's in Seattle this week, claiming to be protesting "lack of access to grocery stores" and explaining to patrons "how capitalism exploits the working class."

Morning March Seattle, which advocates to abolish the police and invest in black communities, organised the gathering at the local grocery store to educate customers on the barriers black residents face such as gentrification.
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I 've googled Trader Joe's, which I'd never heard of, and it looks to me like some kind of Hipster outfit - the sort of place that does spring up in gentrified areas that poor people have been driven out of. A bit like THIS.

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Trader Joe, or, Joe Coulombe, Who Founded Trader Joe’s, is no longer with us. He died at 89 years old.
He is turning in his grave right now, angry because the antifa youth does not like his shop, or perhaps like it too much.
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He sold his brand to a German billionaire in 1979. Probably corporately owned now

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