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TRUMP: Why I oppose his presidency.

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TRUMP: Why I oppose his presidency.

Postby Hombre » Thu May 18, 2017 9:27 am

Please, let me make it clear. I do not oppose neither GOP of Democrats, nor Liberal or Conservatives. in free word, everyone is entitled to his / her opinion - as long as they do not deprive others of same privileges.

My bone and opposition is to one man - TRUMP. & only Trump

From childhood and all my life I was taught the sanctity of being honest, truthful and belief in work hard. A philosophy to which, I also passed on to my own children. I am sure all our friends here - regardless of our respective political or religious underpinning - we do believe in those principals.

When we made mistakes - we paid for those mistakes (lost of job, a friend, marriage, etc). When we succeeded in life, it was also due to our own hard work, diligence with moral integrity & turpitude.

For all his life, this Trump was pumpered by his rich parents. When he failed - always, it was someone else who either bailed him out, or took the fall for him - be it his own rich father (4 bankruptcies), banks, his Lawyers, innocent contractors, or other hard working Americans who believed his lies to make them as rich as he is.

He never sacrificed anything for anyone - except his own selfish life. He never felt grief, nor hunger, or thirst. Never had any sympathy for others - including to mothers (Ivana & Marla) of his own children. Never apologized to anyone, nor regret for hurting others. As NYTimes mentioned. He demands blind loyalty from others, but offers one to others.

His exhibits clear signs of emotional and mental deficiency to be near him - let alone lead by him.

No way am I going to support anyone who cares only about himself. This is not what I have been taught by my parent, nor teach my children & grandchildren.

I would be most interested to read others views - particularly from his blind supporters - why they support him.
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Postby Fernando » Thu May 18, 2017 10:52 am

I'm neither an American nor a supporter of Trump, but I might throw a bit of light on your question. As i see it, very few people will have voted for Trump because of what he's like - they will probably have voted for him despite what he's like. From an international point of view, that would most likely seem to be from a dislike of the Obama administration and a hatred of Hillary. Why the Republicans couldn't capitalise on that and field someone who could do as well as Trump is beyond my knowledge of American politices. In general, anyway, millions of Americans probably voted for him as a protest against... you name it: globalisation, illegal immigrants, Islamic terrorism, elitist establishment that doesn't change with party etc. etc. As with so many elections now, many people voted against, not for.
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Postby skynightblaze » Sat May 20, 2017 4:07 am

@Hombre-

Why should we be bothered about his personal life when are looking at him as a president? Is he performing the presidency job as expected (we should be concerned about that when we talk about his presidency)? If yes then we should not worry but If the answer is no then I guess people should discuss on the things where he failed on his job. I think you should change the title of the topic (just a suggestion) if you wish to discuss Trump as a person.

As far as I am concerned, I ain't a fan of trump but I don't think he is incorrect when he takes tough stance on immigrants, non American businesses etc. America is after all their nation and any nation would always try to put their own interests before others.
Look around yourself and you'll find people with virtues are never required to demand respect since they automatically earn it. It is only those that are devoid of any virtues need to threaten and bully to gain respect. Needless to say that quran cannot be from God.
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Postby glitch » Sun May 21, 2017 5:14 am

Hombre wrote:Please, let me make it clear. I do not oppose neither GOP of Democrats, nor Liberal or Conservatives. in free word, everyone is entitled to his / her opinion - as long as they do not deprive others of same privileges.

My bone and opposition is to one man - TRUMP. & only Trump

From childhood and all my life I was taught the sanctity of being honest, truthful and belief in work hard. A philosophy to which, I also passed on to my own children. I am sure all our friends here - regardless of our respective political or religious underpinning - we do believe in those principals.

When we made mistakes - we paid for those mistakes (lost of job, a friend, marriage, etc). When we succeeded in life, it was also due to our own hard work, diligence with moral integrity & turpitude.

For all his life, this Trump was pumpered by his rich parents. [/quote}

So what? better answer, how different or unique is this from SJW jerks who believe Rich is wrong and actually abuses its money, etc to e different... looks to me that donald trump's brother died of an overdose on drugs... he didn't escape death due to his money.... how different are the millenials who have been pampered by their parents.

This argument is specious since all it sounds of to me is bitter jealousy on your part--you really have no evidence that he was pampered all his life.



When he failed - always, it was someone else who either bailed him out, or took the fall for him - be it his own rich father (4 bankruptcies), banks, his Lawyers, innocent contractors, or other hard working Americans who believed his lies to make them as rich as he is.


Sorry, i wasnt aware that bankruptcy is a crime... its certainly ugly. it certainly isn't fun, but by what right do you remotely, remotely judge him or his father for it
And secondly the second half of this if you remotely have an argument had more to do with others than trump... I'm sorry thats the truth and your claim is they let him do evil stuff for money, which you have no proof on.


He never sacrificed anything for anyone - except his own selfish life. He never felt grief, nor hunger, or thirst.

no evidence. he seems to have taken the death of his brother very hard. Very few people have ever, including you actually felt hunger or thirst....Weak argument.

Never had any sympathy for others - including to mothers (Ivana & Marla) of his own children.

You have no evidence of that either... this is a blanket statement to which you have no evidence... seems to me he supported his children despite issues that they heaped on themselves.

Never apologized to anyone, nor regret for hurting others. As NYTimes mentioned. He demands blind loyalty from others, but offers one to others.

No evidence, he's a businessman who demands loyalty. So what? You've no evidence he doesn't treat people who work for him well

His exhibits we clear signs of emotional and mental deficiency to be near him - let alone lead by him.


You are not a psychiatrist in any sense.


No way am I going to support anyone who cares only about himself. This is not what I have been taught by my parent, nor teach my children & grandchildren.

I would be most interested to read others views - particularly from his blind supporters - why they support him.




Again, you bring nothing to the table but blind hatred and like most leftist, you don't even bring evidence.
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Postby Hombre » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:12 pm

skynightblaze wrote:@Hombre-

Why should we be bothered about his personal life when are looking at him as a president?
Except that, Presidents reflect the morals of their constituency and set good example for young generation to follow & be inspired by. Notwithstanding his contacts with Russian agents during the election campaign.

During past six months we have seen and heard this man's repeated lies - followed by his own members of family. They all denied any contact or collusion with Russians - now we find out that was all lie. Don't be surprised if in coming days or week, we will learn that Trump himself had participated (or at least listing in) trough facetime in meeting between Don Jr. his sidekicks and Russian agent and Lawyer.

We all observed how Xi Jinping manipulated Trump - over a chocolate cake, to change his mind about China about its currency manipulation. I will bet my cowboy boots that same will happen with Paris climate change - after the 39 year old Macron stroke Trump's hollow ego and invited him to French Bastille and lavished so much attention to him.
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Postby glitch » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:37 pm

Hombre wrote:
skynightblaze wrote:@Hombre-

Why should we be bothered about his personal life when are looking at him as a president?
Except that, Presidents reflect the morals of their constituency and set good example for young generation to follow & be inspired by. Notwithstanding his contacts with Russian agents during the election campaign.

During past six months we have seen and heard this man's repeated lies - followed by his own members of family. They all denied any contact or collusion with Russians - now we find out that was all lie. Don't be surprised if in coming days or week, we will learn that Trump himself had participated (or at least listing in) trough facetime in meeting between Don Jr. his sidekicks and Russian agent and Lawyer.

We all observed how Xi Jinping manipulated Trump - over a chocolate cake, to change his mind about China about its currency manipulation. I will bet my cowboy boots that same will happen with Paris climate change - after the 39 year old Macron stroke Trump's hollow ego and invited him to French Bastille and lavished so much attention to him.


You know what, im tired of this vague "Russian" crap. just because a person is Russian doesn't make this a conspiracy. You hae no evidence as usual and the drop of the word russian, you and the media go running like retards and screaming collusion.

Seriously, i have the utmost respect for Isreal, but you concern yourself with utter BS--its very hard to believe you are actually Isreali. Are you even gonna respond to my points? No of course not. its easier to stand on your little soap box and call a person a liar.
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