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Hombre wrote:Hold on to your pan (trousers). Trump & Kim jun-Un Agreed to Dance together.

I think it is positive news. The capitulation of Kim is a success of Trump.
Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong-un to hold 'milestone' meeting

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un and US President Donald Trump are to meet in person by May, it has been announced, an extraordinary overture after months of mutual hostility.

News of the meeting was delivered by South Korean officials after talks with Mr Trump at the White House.

They passed a verbal message from Mr Kim, saying the North Korean leader was "committed to denuclearisation".

Mr Trump hailed "great progress" but said sanctions would remain in place.

South Korea's President Moon Jae-in said the news "came like a miracle".

"If President Trump and Chairman Kim meet following an inter-Korean summit, complete denuclearisation of the Korean peninsula will be put on the right track in earnest," he said.

China has welcomed the development, saying the Korean peninsula issue was "heading in the right direction" and calling for "political courage".

However, correspondents say the North has halted missile and nuclear tests during previous talks, only to resume them when it lost patience or felt it was not getting what it demanded.

The latest announcement came days after the South Korean delegation met Mr Kim in Pyongyang.

Speaking outside the White House after briefing Mr Trump, South Korean National Security Adviser Chung Eui-yong said he had passed on a message that Mr Kim was "committed to denuclearisation" and had "pledged that North Korea will refrain from any further nuclear or missile tests".

In a statement sent to the Washington Post, North Korea's UN ambassador said the "courageous decision" of Mr Kim would help secure "peace and stability in the Korean Peninsula and the East Asia region".

There is no indication yet of where the Trump-Kim talks might take place, but the Korean border's demilitarised zone (DMZ) and Beijing are seen as likely options.

US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said it would take "some weeks" to arrange the talks and admitted the US had been "surprised" at Kim Jong-un's "forward-leaning" stance.

Just a day earlier, Mr Tillerson had said the US was "a long way" from negotiations with the North.
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Yes Indeed. As you noted, it could be good news IF Trump transforms it into positive outcome - not (yet again), use it as a publicity stunt to set himself at the center of public attention worldwide.

Let's hope this time, he will listen to his senior advisors, and not let Kim ung-buba play & outflank him - much like his father did to Clinton back in the 90's. Use him to boost his own standing among his people seen "meeting with President of United State", and end up where we are now.

Alas Trump - Vee Veel See what happens
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Hombre wrote:The only thing Trump will be interested to deal is - a new site in Pyongyang for new Trump Hotel
I dunno - they might want to swap tips about hairdressers. :wink:
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Sad.. :heh: A female editor of the New York Times has found a second career as a spokeswoman for the lunatic Left, writing in the pages of Britain's Guardian. Still preaching to the Upper West Side, however, Ms. Abramson has saved the money graf for last in her latest column:
It’s easy to look at what’s happening in Washington DC and despair. That’s why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trump’s America.
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CNN has found a smoking gun. We all know now why Hillary lost the elections.

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Russians released an anti-Clinton video game called "Hilltendo" weeks before the 2016 US presidential election. It may look silly on the surface, but a CNN investigation finds it may indicate an intent to track users and target them with ads
https://www.rt.com/usa/420886-cnn-hillt ... ideo-game/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Ariel wrote:CNN has found a smoking gun. We all know now why Hillary lost the elections.

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Russians released an anti-Clinton video game called "Hilltendo" weeks before the 2016 US presidential election. It may look silly on the surface, but a CNN investigation finds it may indicate an intent to track users and target them with ads
https://www.rt.com/usa/420886-cnn-hillt ... ideo-game/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
RT.com (Russia Today) is a Russian network set and financed by the governmt of Putin. Their sole interest is to promote Russia and its interest around the world - particulary in US. Nothing wrong with that.

Nonetheless, If I have to choose between your (Dutch) intelligence services who hacked the Russian hackers and RT, I sure chose AIVD over RT. I am sure you have read this piece:

January 25, 2018 / 2:14 PM
Dutch intelligence agency spied on Russian hacking group: media

Reuters Staff

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - The Dutch intelligence agency AIVD spied on the Russian group believed to be behind the hack of the Democratic Party ahead of U.S. elections, local media reported on Thursday.

Current affairs program Nieuwsuur and newspaper de Volkskrant based the story on several anonymous intelligence sources in the Netherlands and the United States.

The Moscow-based group known as Cozy Bear is widely suspected of hacking the Democratic Party and is believed to be linked to the Russian government.

Agents with the AIVD gained access to the group’s headquarters and between 2014 and 2017 passed along information to the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency, the report said.

The Dutch intelligence may have contributed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation inquiry into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 election race, the report said.

The FBI and the AIVD were not immediately available for comment.


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It seems Mrs Clinton is still prone to falling down.
What is it with Hillary and stairs? Clinton slips twice during trip to India - five months after she broke her toe in a London hotel

Hillary Clinton again slipped on stairs during a visit to India on Monday
She is there promoting her book explaining her 2016 presidential loss
Blamed voters who 'didn’t like black people getting rights' in her remarks
Follows her October 2017 spill in a London hotel that left her with broken toe
Clinton's September 2016 collapse at the 9/11 memorial raised health concern
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... India.html
With video clip.
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Fernando wrote:It seems Mrs Clinton is still prone to falling down.
What is it with Hillary and stairs? Clinton slips twice during trip to India - five months after she broke her toe in a London hotel

Hillary Clinton again slipped on stairs during a visit to India on Monday
She is there promoting her book explaining her 2016 presidential loss
Blamed voters who 'didn’t like black people getting rights' in her remarks
Follows her October 2017 spill in a London hotel that left her with broken toe
Clinton's September 2016 collapse at the 9/11 memorial raised health concern
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... India.html
With video clip.
Ok OK! let's face it. Hillary has problems with walking or standing in the heat - trump has a problem when laid down - fornicating sex stars. :lotpot:

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Fernando wrote:
Hombre wrote:The only thing Trump will be interested to deal is - a new site in Pyongyang for new Trump Hotel
I dunno - they might want to swap tips about hairdressers. :wink:
Dude, why you got to be petty like that.. seriously.

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Hombre wrote:
Fernando wrote:It seems Mrs Clinton is still prone to falling down.
What is it with Hillary and stairs? Clinton slips twice during trip to India - five months after she broke her toe in a London hotel

Hillary Clinton again slipped on stairs during a visit to India on Monday
She is there promoting her book explaining her 2016 presidential loss
Blamed voters who 'didn’t like black people getting rights' in her remarks
Follows her October 2017 spill in a London hotel that left her with broken toe
Clinton's September 2016 collapse at the 9/11 memorial raised health concern
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... India.html
With video clip.
Ok OK! let's face it. Hillary has problems with walking or standing in the heat - trump has a problem when laid down - fornicating sex stars. :lotpot:
But i thought that tape was altered, and people were just lying about her. You're such a hypocrite.

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Hillary's problem Hombre was her husband raped someone. She silenced anyone and belittled them, and she's was too stupid to be trusted with email.

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Fernando wrote:It seems Mrs Clinton is still prone to falling down.
What is it with Hillary and stairs? Clinton slips twice during trip to India - five months after she broke her toe in a London hotel

Hillary Clinton again slipped on stairs during a visit to India on Monday
She is there promoting her book explaining her 2016 presidential loss
Blamed voters who 'didn’t like black people getting rights' in her remarks
Follows her October 2017 spill in a London hotel that left her with broken toe
Clinton's September 2016 collapse at the 9/11 memorial raised health concern
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... India.html
With video clip.
Fernando,
Not knowing her health records first hand, by no means do I want to make any representations in regards to state of her physical- nor Medical condition

Notwithstanding, if you look at the weather conditions in both NYC (11 Sep 2016) & New Delhi during this month - both places the temperature was above 29C (84F), and high humidity. In cases when public figures appearing in public, they have little control when to leave the scene. Often they have little choice but endure the discomfort.

We all know, HC likes to bask in her worldwide fame. In this case, she may have stayed a bit longer than should and most likely her 71-year-old "radiator" didn't do its job & she ended up overheated & stumbled.

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glitch wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Hombre wrote:The only thing Trump will be interested to deal is - a new site in Pyongyang for new Trump Hotel
I dunno - they might want to swap tips about hairdressers. :wink:
Dude, why you got to be petty like that.. seriously.
Is lese majeste out of bounds now, then? :cry:
‘Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions.’ Muhammad Ali Jinnah

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Yes, he is. A typical FoxNews viewer - though he denies watching this network. His replies are devoid of meaningful context.

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glitch wrote:
Fernando wrote:
Hombre wrote:The only thing Trump will be interested to deal is - a new site in Pyongyang for new Trump Hotel
I dunno - they might want to swap tips about hairdressers. :wink:
Dude, why you got to be petty like that.. seriously.
Is lese majeste out of bounds now, then? :cry:[/quote]

No. you're right. but hombre can't bring any real conversation to this topic--he basically is nw on the donald trump a an affair so he can't be good train--though Clinton gets a pass for Rape.

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George W. Bush appeared tough in the post 9/11 scenario while John Kerry called terrorism akin to prostitution, a problem that would always persist in normal times.So Americans voted the former to office for a second term.Hillary Clinton also said that if ever another terrorist attack of the scale of 9/11 happens,the chances of Democrats getting elected to office are a big null.So when people feel besieged,they are likely to become even more extremist.
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Now this tendency of drift towards extremist unity in times of perceived threat from the other is not something new.In the video shown below when the time scale is after 9:41,they do say that most of the local rulers of India set aside their rivalries and became united in order to face Alexander bent upon further conquest.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwLcnojNnhY

Therefore one should not be surprised that Donald Trump got elected.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJGaV96-3x0

In the above video of the Hollywood movie Alexander,Alexander is shown to be hurt at the battle of Hydaspes fought with king Porus/Purushottam of Punjab region of India.However that is not true.Alexander emerged victorious unscathed during the battle of Hydaspes. However while conquering further downstream the Indus,he was indeed injured in battles with another Indian tribe possibly named Assikenoi etc.The above depiction is factually incorrect.Of course one must not expect movie making to be 100% correct.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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In the discovery channel/national geographic channel,they showed that the conquest of much of India during Mauryan rule was extremely bloody as was the formation of the nation of China.Yes conquests will always be brutal and bloody.However such a conquest happened only after Alexander came into picture with his dreams of a world conquest.May be Hindus of North India picked up this idea from him and embarked upon slowly conquering South India and South East Asia.Also Hindus as of today have more or less stopped proselytisation and have more or less remained like an ethnic religion like Judaism i.e something you are by virtue of your birth.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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Nosuperstition
My good man, if you wish to be taken seriously here - you better stick to the subject matter PERTINENT to the thread in which you post your opinions. on numerous occasions manfred had reminded you of this fact - yet you still continue with same behaviour.

Here we are talking about Prince Trump - not prince Shah.

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Hombre wrote:Nosuperstition
My good man, if you wish to be taken seriously here - you better stick to the subject matter PERTINENT to the thread in which you post your opinions. on numerous occasions manfred had reminded you of this fact - yet you still continue with same behaviour.

Here we are talking about Prince Trump - not prince Shah.
I stuck to the topic when I posted as to why Trump won with thumping majority.And yes manfred himself agreed that they themselves do often deviate a bit while discussing some topic.

Anyway it seems Trump wants more migrants to flood Europe when he wants to begin fresh confrontations in Syria that render many more homeless.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.

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