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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:03 am
by manfred
Yes, I think that may indeed something that is going to happen. He is rather too sensitive to criticism, and he over-reacts, it seems.

As to the thing with money, also a possibility.... however when someone has a much money as he has, sure the interest of getting even more seems odd... rather like a prostitute taking up sex as a hobby....

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:19 am
by Hombre
I can assure anyone that. This character Trump is not as "billionaire" - nor as tough as he might to convince others. Real deals don't need, nor do brag about their wealth, or how tough they are. We don't see Bill Gate, Koch Brothers, or Warren Buffet brag about their wealth, do we?

Otherwise why he has not released his taxes? Because, that would expose his real net worth, as not as rich as he like us convinced.

As his name stand.
Tayrant
Repulsive
Uppity
Moron (Meshugeneh)
Pompous

One thing I will credit him for. After 8 years of boring - Trump will fill us with lots of material to have fun and entertainment on daily basis.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:54 am
by Fernando
All these complaints about Trump, however true, are not why the fanatical left are up in arms (almost literally) about him. It's just a smokescreen: they want him deposed because they don't like his politics and, more to the point, because he doesn't like theirs.
Just the same as the remoaners, only moreso.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:00 pm
by Hombre
Fernando,
I don't know how else I can convince you that, from my stand point, objections to election results are NOT about democrats or Republican - nor a Liberal-Conservative issue. It is about Trump himself.

Mentally this man is unstable - period. A leader who gets up at 3:30 & 6:30 in morning to tweet on some nonsense comment made by a (well known & respected) Hollywood actress about his behaviour is not normal.

Every day & every hour, leaders in Democratic countries around the world - including that of US, are criticized, mocked, and made fun of. Do we see any of them "tweets" or otherwise react like a 12 year old child? - NO WE DON'T.

Don't you think that, leaders from adversary counties (China, Russia, N. Korea, Iran, etc) are monitoring this idiot, and carefully study him - seeking for weak spots to undermined US and other western countries - of course they do. They will deliberately push his button with anticipation for him to lose control of his composure and reveal (tweet) things which will compromise national security, or worse - reveal agents working for US on high places in governments.

As for "Russia having damaging info on Trump". Soviets and now Russians are known to collect detailed info on any foreigner visiting Russia, with anticipation that, some day it may be useful to them. That someday is NOW and that person is Trump. There is no doubt other countries also have fat dozier on this guy.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:55 am
by SAM


"You're FAKE News" CALLS OUT CNN :reading:

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:14 am
by manfred
To be honest SAM, it is difficult to get to the bottom of things like that... Some time ago you heard a Democrat politician say half jokingly "Can we not find someone to give him a blowjob so that we can impeach him?"

And now we get stuff allegedly from Russia, who, by all accounts, have things to gain from a Trump presidency, alleging similar things....

While I personally have no interest at all in what Trump might have done in the privacy of his hotel room some years ago, I find it odd it suddenly becomes news. Nobody alleges he did anything illegal, something distasteful, I can well believe, possibly, but why rake it up?

He denies it... and does it really matter anyway?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:17 pm
by Centaur
By the time Trump is sworn in some of the hardcore lefties would end up in mental asylum.plotting scheming rioting.. :yuk:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4114546/Meet-espionage-firm-ordered-Trump-dirty-dossier-secretive-D-C-firm-aided-Planned-Parenthood-attacked-Mitt-Romney-s-friends.html

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:37 pm
by Hombre
Excerp from upcoming Trump's inauguration speech.

"My fellow Americans. I call upon you to believe in me. Ask not what your country will do for you - Watch what your country will do for me" :lol:

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 11:53 pm
by Fernando
:sleeping:

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:40 pm
by Ariel
CNN want Trump being murdered .

CNN: IF TRUMP IS KILLED DURING INAUGURATION, OBAMA APPOINTEE WOULD BE PRESIDENT

Network slammed for encouraging violence with bizarre report

CNN has been criticized for airing a report which revealed that an Obama appointee would become president if Donald Trump was killed during an attack on the inauguration tomorrow.

Entitled Disaster could put Obama cabinet member in Oval Office, the report admits that there is no specific threat targeting the inauguration, but goes on to speculate about “who would be in charge if an attack hit the incoming president….just as the transfer of power is underway”.

An individual named the “designated presidential successor” will not attend the inauguration as a security precaution, “but it won’t be a Trump cabinet secretary….it will be an Obama appointee,” reports CNN.

The report emphasizes that “a president from the prior administration” will take power if there is an attack due to the fact that none of Trump’s cabinet secretaries have been confirmed yet.

According to CNN, the designated presidential successor is likely to be Tom Shannon, the Under Secretary For Political Affairs, and an Obama appointee.

The report teases the potential for an attack on the inauguration by asserting it would create “chaos” and “high theater,” before airing clips from ABC’s Designated Survivor show in which Kiefer Sutherland plays an obscure cabinet secretary who is “unexpectedly thrust into the presidency after an attack at the capitol during a State of the Union address.”

Given the huge number of death threats leveled at Trump – including one family friend of Hillary Clinton who was arrested after he threatened to assassinate Trump at the inauguration – is CNN irresponsible in drawing attention to this issue?

Respondents to the video on YouTube, which was heavily thumbed down, slammed CNN for almost encouraging a violent attack against Trump.

    “Totally not suggesting anything here, huh CNN?” commented one.

    “So leftist terrorists know who they need to take out, so that dems can stay in power? This is irresponsible journalism,” added another.

    “I flagged this video as dangerous to the president elect, and that it might foment violence,” wrote another.
The charges are not without precedent. After Thomas DiMassimo tried to rush the stage to violently confront Trump during an event in Ohio last year, CNN gave him a platform to denounce Trump as a “bully”.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 4:52 pm
by Fernando
The wish being father to the thought?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:54 am
by manfred
Did anyone else watch some of this stuff that comes out on the news about Trump today....? Awful.

a) Apparently he is appointing someone to some official role who opposes abortion. So we get people saying Trump is repealing "women's reproductive rights".... Seriously mind boggles. "reproductive rights".... This is how it is, like it or not: if, as a woman, you have unprotected sex, you can get pregnant. Any woman has full control over her reproduction: If you you don't want to get pregnant, keep you legs closed, or at least take precautions. If you do get pregnant and you don't like it, spare a thought to the growing human being you would deny a life in an abortion. There are other options to help you if you got into a mess like that.

b) And then we get "Madonna" with her "message of love", which was "I have been thinking a lot about blowing up the white house lately..."

Why can't people accept the result of the vote, and if he messes up, vote in someone else next time? He has hardly started and we get pop stars suggesting to kill him. How loving and how democratic.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:28 pm
by Hombre
Why can't people accept the result of the vote, and if he messes up, vote in someone else next time? He has hardly started and we get pop stars suggesting to kill him. How loving and how democratic.
Trump's own ballshit comes to hound him. What goes around - comes around.

For more then 6 years this SOB kept pounding on Obama's birthplace - even after Obama showed his long form certificate. Trumps objectives was designed to saw doubts, and render Obama as illegitimate President, who was twice elected by the Americans. Now he is getting a taste of his own medicine.

Just think of it. We are in the digital era - where pen & pencil have been replaced by keyboards. YET this F...ked up (ariel I truly apologize to you & other ladies here for my crude language. I can's hold myself), seen writing his inaugural speech using pen & paper, which suggest he can't even use computers to write simple letters. (my understanding is, he dictates to his assistance to tweet his comments).

For weeks he derided the CIA as bunch of "lairs", and boasted he knows more about national security then they do. THEN when faced same CIA officers, he melts down with his usual used-car-saleman, "I am so behind you. No one is more supportive of you then I am". It evermore highlights his cowerd mantra - while in front of friendly crowd, he is all the tough guy, while in unfriendly crowd he leaks their rear end.

I don't even want to go to his crap assertion of having more people attended to his inauguration then that of Obama - despite the fact side-by-side pictures show otherwise.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 10:12 pm
by manfred
Hombre, just relax...

If he as useless as you say, he will not last long. Sit back, get the pop corn out and watch...

Sometimes the wrong people get in to roles of responsibility, and then it is invariably their own actions that catapult them back out.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:57 pm
by Fernando
Hombre wrote:Just think of it. We are in the digital era - where pen & pencil have been replaced by keyboards. YET this F...ked up (ariel I truly apologize to you & other ladies here for my crude language. I can's hold myself), seen writing his inaugural speech using pen & paper, which suggest he can't even use computers to write simple letters.
Scraping the barrel a bit there, aren't you? Mind you, he does need a new nib in that pen!

I think we're going to have a problem working out just how bad Trump is, or is not, because of the incendiary attacks of both Clintonistas (rioting) and much of the media (flaming in print and film). I'm not sure how we can get an impartial Martian's-eye view.

Another problem with assessing Trump's presidency will be distinguishing between the man, his general political stance, and particular idiosyncratic actions. He seems to be an unpleasant man, yet I'm delighted that he's kept Hillary Clinton out of office and I'm delighted that he's going to go after Islamist extremism and glad that he's finished off TTIP but I'm horrified by his attitudes to climate change, reproduction and dismantling the church/state barrier.

Some you win, some you lose.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:06 am
by Hombre
manfred wrote:Hombre, just relax...

If he as useless as you say, he will not last long. Sit back, get the pop corn out and watch...

Sometimes the wrong people get in to roles of responsibility, and then it is invariably their own actions that catapult them back out.
With his capricious and unpredictable behavior - I am not sure I can relax, knowing any moment he can change his mind - forget what he promised a day before, and come up with new fatwa to the detriment of millions of Americans.

Some examples: Repeal of ACA. Despite his stated position Repeal-n-Replace at same time. He could decide to drop the latter part and agree with Paul Ryan. Repeal-now-replace-never - which would affect the lives of 21M Americans whom now have insurance. They would lose their insurance.

He could be duped by his own & go alone with uber-conservatives plan to privatize Medicare & SS. Imagine such plans in your own respective countries.

I have been watching this guy for decades, and observed his ostentatious mantra. Unfortunately I grew to disdain such people, whom most often are not as smart or wealthy as they want you to believe.
Richard Branson is also a self made Billionaire. Do we see him brag or talk about himself so much? No we don't.

Trump is a joke, whom provides us with plenty to laugh at, and for that I thanks him. We need a laugh or two.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 1:30 am
by Hombre
Fernando wrote:Scraping the barrel a bit there, aren't you? Mind you, he does need a new nib in that pen!
No fernado I do not scrap the barrel. My trepidation is shared by many more Americans, worry about having an unpredictable man with his finger on the nuclear code.

What I am worried, is that tomorrow other young Billionaires like the ZukiBoy from Facebook, Mark Cuban, or others Silicon Valley kids may decide - "hay! I want that too". Spend few week watch Trumps blue print how to win the presidency, hire few media consultants, and copy Trumps tactics verbatim (Why mess with a working formula?), and run with greater success he will get the trophy called POUS.

My problem with GOP is for past 45 years, it has veered to hard right - allowing itself to be taken over, lead & controlled by right-wing ideologues, like Ted cruz, MIke Lee, or Paul Ryan, whom cites Ayn Rand (aka Alliza Rosenbaum) the queen ideologue of narcissism as his guiding light.

Today's GOP leaders like McConnell, are driven by blind ideology, worse then the Taliban. They will stop at nothing to get their way. This is what brought the ilks like Trump, Tea Party and other demagogue to the GOP.

If we look closer at past 30 years. Every time a Republican President (Reagan, Bush Sr & Bush Jr) left the whitehouse, they left the country with greater deficit, down economy, and more division. That does not mean Democrats don't have their share of mismanagement, but for less then GOP

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:52 am
by manfred
I wonder what people make of Trump's latest "Muslim ban" thing....

The thing I find disturbing is that in effect this a "retro-active" rule, affecting people who already have a valid visa, and even people who merely want to change planes in a US airport...

Why did not simply issue an order that no further visas are issued for citizens of some countries, for the next 90 days? If you make new rules to affect PAST decisions, then you cannot really trust any decisions any more. And what NEW insights will be expected from this temporary ban? Will there be new visa rules for some countries?

Trump also cancelled the refugee programme, ending up with much the same policy as the gulf states, but somehow he got much more criticism for than than they did.

The problem is that it is impossible to say who an ISIS operative is by looking at someone's passport. Some may have EU passports. And, as recent experience in Europe has shown, many ISIS operatives have been recruited AFTER they have arrived in the EU. So perhaps much depends on what happens to new arrivals too.

I predict that some home-grown Muslims will use this as an excuse to blow something up in the US. Then Trump may well start blanket deportations. I wonder if he really thinks that the issues are that simple.

You cannot crack a nut with a sledgehammer, at least not, if you intend to enjoy the kernel afterwards.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:36 pm
by Fernando
I'm afraid Trump looks as though he might be becoming a prime example of what is wrong with many politicians: plain incompetence. It doesn't go with any particular shade of politics, they're just hopeless. They may be good at climbing up the political pole, garnering votes, producing popular policies even, but just mess up when it comes to actually running things.

However, could it be possible that his ban is being sabotaged by deliberately over-zealous officials out to make trouble?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:17 pm
by sum
All Trump has to do is challenge muslims to a full open public discussion on the politics and aims of Islam from the Koran and Muhammad. This will put the muslims onto the back foot as they will either refuse to accept the open discussion or accept the challenge and expose Islam for what it is. If they refuse then they will have to explain why. Islam is the only political organisation that has never been subjected to full open public scrutiny and it`s about time that it was.

The world needs to know and must know what Islam stands for. We either challenge Islam and leftists over this matter or throw in the towel. It all comes down to who is most afraid of whom. With Islam might reigns supreme. Who has the might?

I once read the phrase "Muslims are cohesive, focussed and resolute". I certainly agree with this and each sect conforms to the phrase. The West is pathetically divided and pulling in all sorts of different directions. Islam is, at present, stronger by far than the West.

sum