Despite his "bowing" there, Saudi still were not happy with his foreign policy in the region.
We all have seen the two faces of Trump.Centaur wrote:Trump didn't bow like Obama, but was accepting a medal which is ordinarily put on the neck, not the leg.
As for the Saudis not being happy, the job of potus is not about making them happy is it? The important thing that needs doing for the survival of western civilization or for any other (japan comes to mind) is to limit Islamic immigration, everything else including intervening militarily or non militarily is secondary to that.As it stands Trump is the only politician who was brave enough to address the issue. Regarding the secondary issues like iran Iraq , throughout his presidential campaign Trump criticized what Bush and co did in Iraq. Again there should be a balance in the decision making of whether to intervene or not intervene. Nobody expect a responsible power to sit around and watch evil prospering and delay the action for next gen, Similar to what Obama was doing, in the formative years of isis.
Hombre wrote:We all have seen the two faces of Trump.Centaur wrote:Trump didn't bow like Obama, but was accepting a medal which is ordinarily put on the neck, not the leg.
As for the Saudis not being happy, the job of potus is not about making them happy is it? The important thing that needs doing for the survival of western civilization or for any other (japan comes to mind) is to limit Islamic immigration, everything else including intervening militarily or non militarily is secondary to that.As it stands Trump is the only politician who was brave enough to address the issue. Regarding the secondary issues like iran Iraq , throughout his presidential campaign Trump criticized what Bush and co did in Iraq. Again there should be a balance in the decision making of whether to intervene or not intervene. Nobody expect a responsible power to sit around and watch evil prospering and delay the action for next gen, Similar to what Obama was doing, in the formative years of isis.
With Saudis (whom along with Kuwait & Qatar privately fund Al Qaida & ISIS) - kissing their ass. Then,
With our European allies - kicking their ass - rather rude & along the way, antagonize and ruin 70 year old sold relationship with EU countries.
Hombre wrote:glitch
Your writing is much better to read and comprehend. thanks.
From your long monologue it clear that you are more interested in "dual-hand-to-hand combat", "I win you lose intellectual discourse". You have your views on events and I have mine.
Despite his "bowing" there, Saudi still were not happy with his foreign policy in the region.
Conservatives prefer "gun diplomacy" over real diplomacy. Obama happened to believe otherwise - use soft power before the hard one. After our disastrous Iraq & Afghanistan which killed near 6000 Americans, and cost 3.3 Trillion Dollar - Obama decided to stop the bloodshed of Americans.
As for dealing with Iran. Despite Bibi's hot air bellicose of invading Iran to destroy their nuclear facilities, many Israeli retired intelligent and military leaders (trust me I read and listen closely to Israeli media) vehemently objected to such unilateral military move.
a) It would provide Iran the perfect excuse to go ahead and develop their nuclear arsenal.
b) it would anger & unify the fractured Iranian society behind the Ayatollahs.
c) Iran has the capabilities to mobilize Hizbollah, Syrian forces, and its own forces against Israel.
d) force US to enter a war which it has not interest nor the stomach to enter.
Therefore, bowing or no bowing mean little in lieu of such danger of miscalculated step - particularly in volatile ME & Gulf regions.
Now Trump & conservatives are in control. Let see how far he will go with his gunboat diplomacy. So far except ridicule and denigration From N. Korean & Eu leaders we have seen nothing of substance from this loudmouth.
Hombre wrote:glitch
Your writing is much better to read and comprehend. thanks.
From your long monologue it clear that you are more interested in "dual-hand-to-hand combat", "I win you lose intellectual discourse". You have your views on events and I have mine.
Hombre wrote:it looks this glitch guy deals with chicken-shit, instead of substantive conversation. (whether Obama bowed or not.)
Anyone else wants to reply to this idiot? I pretty much run out of patience with him.
I've pretty much run out of patience with the whole Trump conversation.Hombre wrote:it looks this glitch guy deals with chicken-shit, instead of substantive conversation. (whether Obama bowed or not.)
Anyone else wants to reply to this idiot? I pretty much run out of patience with him.
When you are ready to engage in substantive conversation - by all mean write me & I will reply.glitch wrote:Hombre wrote:it looks this glitch guy deals with chicken-shit, instead of substantive conversation. (whether Obama bowed or not.)
Anyone else wants to reply to this idiot? I pretty much run out of patience with him.
Perfect leftist tactic, muddle the water as much as possible. call foul over your own photos then call me crazy... you're the coward Hombre...
Good question. Why Foxnews - more then others. Because for years I watched this network's pattern of systematically - day in & day out, Poisson minds in my own family - fathers, mothers grandparents. Watched these people go from loving parents, rational intelligent people with minds of their own, to outright haters - hate anything not conservative - Liberals, democrats, non-whites, etc. All recite foxnews as their sole source of information.Centaur wrote:why are you obsessed with fox news while being silent about most of the leftist msm like cnn aka fake news, nyt, washington post etc.
crooked fake news aka cnn love islamists dont they
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZKqxxoUoYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XApZSIPosuk
Centaur wrote:CNN = Fake news.
well if you cnstantly mention foxnews and forget all those lying fake news like cnn,msnbc, wp etc,they that says a lot about you.lefties are the new fascists,they are the ones having violent meltdown in the streets, they are the ones who strangle free speech in unis and they are the ones made unis breeding ground for ultra left ideas that will ensure the next gen will growing up knowing nothing about the true history and true nature of ideologies like islam.
ISlam + lefties = Axis of Evil
I am all for free speech - to a degree. Neo-nazis in this country are known as uber-right wing white trash - not what you call "lefties". We don't see lefties ride motorcycles carry guns & intimidate people who disagree with them. Uber right wing dude do.Centaur wrote:CNN = Fake news.
well if you cnstantly mention foxnews and forget all those lying fake news like cnn,msnbc, wp etc,they that says a lot about you.lefties are the new fascists,they are the ones having violent meltdown in the streets, they are the ones who strangle free speech in unis and they are the ones made unis breeding ground for ultra left ideas that will ensure the next gen will growing up knowing nothing about the true history and true nature of ideologies like islam.
ISlam + lefties = Axis of Evil
I am all for free speech - to a degree. Neo-nazis in this country are known as uber-right wing white trash - not what you call "lefties". We don't see lefties ride motorcycles carry guns & intimidate people who disagree with them. Uber right wing dude do.
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