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Someone can say that is your subjective opinion and if it needs to be banned on the basis that it hurts children then what about abortion? its legal even though it hurts children.
Hi, the difference is this: People will not always agree when a foetus should be considered a child. So an abortion is seen by some as the killing of a POTENTIAL child. But there can be no such argument about paedophilia. The child which is harmed clearly is an actual child, not a potential one. So when does a foetus become a child? The catholic argument is at conception, because if it is left undisturbed and no accident or illness intervenes, a child is born. A full, real, actual child. Of course, there are dissenting views on that, but these depend almost always on some subjective definition of when human life really "begins".

And I agree with you that our "cancel culture" needs to go. In communist states your job prospects and educational opportunities depend on your "loyalty". I want them to depend on your hard work and you. talents.
Hi These were not my personal view. my point was only to show, regarding these arguments, some one can say these are your subjective opinion as in abortion however much you sugar coat it is still a murder especially at a later stage when life is at its most helpless state. Also If humans were to define at what point life begins its a slippery slope.
As far as I know all Christians are against abortion not just catholic and they only vary in their degree of opposition to it in public.
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manfred wrote:Not sure how this crept up in the Trump thread.... If anyone wants to discuss that a new topic would be better..
It crept up because thre are few conservatives here - gullible enough to believe trump is a true blue blood conservative as their are. In reality, he is only for himself & plays with them - pretend to be on their side so they keep supporting him, in exchange he will give them what they want - more conservative judges & agenda.

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Centaur wrote:Someone can say that is your subjective opinion and if it needs to be banned on the basis that it hurts children then what about abortion? its legal even though it hurts children.

Coming back to the topic, It seems like Trump is right. Fascism in its all forms should be called out- whether it be islamofascism, neo nazi fascism or leftist fascism.pretending that they are all for free speech and liberty and trying to suppress it when they don't like it is hypocrisy and pure fascism.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ch-funding
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Yeah clap some more :clap: :clap:
He demands free speech for himself to enable him to continue lying to us with impunity - while he deprives us from knowing the truth about him (why he refuses to disclose his Tax returns to Congress as others PoUS did). Or criticize people like Dr. Fauci or fire many others in his administration when they tell us the ugly truth about his incompetency.

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Hombre wrote:
manfred wrote:Not sure how this crept up in the Trump thread.... If anyone wants to discuss that a new topic would be better..
It crept up because thre are few conservatives here - gullible enough to believe trump is a true blue blood conservative as their are. In reality, he is only for himself & plays with them - pretend to be on their side so they keep supporting him, in exchange he will give them what they want - more conservative judges & agenda.
nowhere near Hombres typical blue blood fearsome conservative but rather a colored person of christian background who fed up with leftist liberals especially the ones in the west bending over backwards in appeasing and accommodating Islam and shutting down free speech to protect it.

Having lived among Muslims in different countries and knowing well what islam would do to a country and its minorities the moment they become majority or get upper hand makes you angry when liberals tries to preach to you.
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Centaur wrote:nowhere near Hombres typical blue blood fearsome conservative but rather a colored person of christian background who fed up with leftist liberals especially the ones in the west bending over backwards in appeasing and accommodating Islam and shutting down free speech to protect it.

Having lived among Muslims in different countries and knowing well what islam would do to a country and its minorities the moment they become majority or get upper hand makes you angry when liberals tries to preach to you.
I share with you on characterization of Islam - don't agree with the manner to deal with Muslims or Islam.

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Trump is big winner and Sessions is big loser in Tuesday primaries

There are two key takeaways from the outcome of Tuesday’s primaries in Alabama, Maine and Texas.

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The big loser of the primaries, Jeff Sessions

First, the big winner of the night was President Trump. Several Trump-backed candidates defeated their opponents and unquestionably benefited significantly from the president’s support. The most notable of these was former Auburn University football coach Tommy Tuberville, who defeated former senator and attorney general Jeff Sessions for the GOP nomination for a U.S. Senate seat in Alabama. Tuberville will face Democratic Sen. Doug Jones, considered a highly vulnerable incumbent.

Second, Democratic primary results show the party is deeply divided, complicating the Democrats’ path to winning majority control of the Senate and defeating Trump in the November election.

In many ways, the weight of Trump’s endorsements in Alabama and Texas signals that the president’s current chances for reelection may be stronger than national polls indicate.

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takeiteasynow will you please? you are running too fast into conclusion.

This was GOP's primary intra-race within the party - not the general election. Considering trump's approval rating (GOP - 86% & General public only 41%) it is no surprise registered Republicans will follow the cult-leader's order whom to vote for.

These guys still need to face the Democrats & win in November. With trump's dismal approval rating - comes November election, trump's name could very well be more liability to these fresh candidates then benefit to get elected.

As for the Dems. Underestimate them at your own peril. They are not stupid as you & other conservative may think. They learn quickly from their past mistakes, then come back at you with vengeance. From what I have seen so far - these bastards are as united as ever before. Don't forget that those powerful Super-Pacs (Like the Lincoln Project & Right Side pac & others) by stalwart GOP formed specifically to defeat trump & help to elect "sleepy" Biden.

The bottom line is - in democracy you can't antagonize demean & insult so many people for so long & expect them to support you. That's not going to happen. trump has done exactly that.

Besides his base the Joe six-pack & James bible crowds which makeup only 30% of the voting block - who else will vote for him?. As for his recent divisive slogan "The Silent majority" (read white Americans) intended to divide American by their skin-color or ethnicity will backfire rather hard.

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There's no jumping into conclusions here my dear Enchilada.

You refer to the popularity of Trump - how about Joe's? During some of DP's last primaries Joe was elected with a minority vote where he was the only candidate - the DP is deeply divided between liberals and leftists. Once again, it's uncertain if Bernie's supporters will show up to vote for Joe.

And even the National Association of Police Organizations endorses now Trump where they supported Barack-Biden in 2008 and 2012 - an overwhelming majority voted for Trump.
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Takeiteasynow wrote:There's no jumping into conclusions here my dear Enchilada.
I love enchiladas. But love Hummus & Shish kabab better :bggrn:
You refer to the popularity of Trump - how about Joe's? During some of DP's last primaries Joe was elected with a minority vote where he was the only candidate - the DP is deeply divided between liberals and leftists. Once again, it's uncertain if Bernie's supporters will show up to vote for Joe.

And even the National Association of Police Organizations endorses now Trump where they supported Barack-Biden in 2008 and 2012 - an overwhelming majority voted for Trump.
You see here too. You are one or two cycle behind. Biden & Sander have already reconciled their differences where Biden has agreed to some variation of Sander's political campaign - like Healthcare for all. More funding to public schools etc.

Dem's WERE divided until "Messiah" trump had descended from hell & unified them against him. Whatever the polls indicate - the results of General election is the only factor which matter.

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To those who claim Joe Biden has Dementia & trump doesn't - here a clip for you (only 30 second. (Tim Apple???) He committed the same booboo when he called CEO of Lockheed "Marylin Lockheed" (her last name is Hewson.

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Takeiteasynow wrote:Trump is big winner and Sessions is big loser in Tuesday primaries

There are two key takeaways from the outcome of Tuesday’s primaries in Alabama, Maine and Texas.

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The big loser of the primaries, Jeff Sessions
If Session is any smart & feels he has enough supporters - he would follow Joe Lieberman's (Connecticut) example & run as an Independent on a 3-way race. Who know knows, he may have a good chance to win back his senate seat

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOhjQ9qoVJw

Demented idiot or shrewd evil.. may be both. God help America if this one becomes POTUS.
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Centaur wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOhjQ9qoVJw

Demented idiot or shrewd evil.. may be both. God help America if this one becomes POTUS.
You mean god will help us if trump is re-elected for 2nd term.
He was a Senator for 35 years & a Chairman of an important committee in Congress. 8 years as VPOTUS (some even credit Biden for helping Obama win his 2nd term).
He already has the experience necessary for this job. He is much more respected then trump around the world & as of now he leads trump by credible margin.

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Hombre wrote:
Centaur wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOhjQ9qoVJw

Demented idiot or shrewd evil.. may be both. God help America if this one becomes POTUS.
You mean god will help us if trump is re-elected for 2nd term.
He was a Senator for 35 years & a Chairman of an important committee in Congress. 8 years as VPOTUS (some even credit Biden for helping Obama win his 2nd term).
He already has the experience necessary for this job. He is much more respected then trump around the world & as of now he leads trump by credible margin.
What he said about islam and Mohamed doesn't look good .Any one who has a higher opinion of Mohammed is dangerous to America and the west. And it seems like he is siding with leftist narrative of islam. This is not about having experience if that's the case Hitler would have been a good leader. Respected by who? by islamists and lefitsts. Hitler was respected too.
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@ Hombre:

Get used to disappointment.
It is likely that there will be another four years of Trump.

Do you think that Biden can do a better job? Seriously?
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pr126 wrote:
Do you think that Biden can do a better job? Seriously?
Or Kayne West? It seems he is still in the running.
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But.... Joe Biden has 35 years experience as a senator. and 8 years getting his family kick backs and money,

You ever notice that Hombre gives Joepedo a pass. Had trump said the same thing we would have never heard the end of it.

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I am surprised he is not out on the streets "protesting". Or mayby he is. :clueless:
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Hombre wrote:
Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:22 pm
Ariel wrote:Adam Schiff’s top staff were briefed on the Russian “bounty” intelligence in February during staff trip to Afghanistan. How did Schiff respond? By doing nothing. Schiff didn’t tell HPSCI, or Congress, and didn’t call Trump to urge him to take action.

Just as Schiff falsely claimed that he and his staff had no interaction with the anti-Trump leaker behind the impeachment push and falsely claimed he was privy to secret evidence of collusion with Russia, Schiff attacked Trump for not taking action in response to the Russian bounty rumors while refusing to disclose that his own office was briefed in February and did nothing in response.
If Intelligence services indeed had briefed Schiff on the Bounty - They must have briefed Richard Burr as well. He is head of the Senate Intelligence committee. He too, remained mum about it.
Why bring only the chairman of the lower house? You got it my Lady - POLITICS. Adam Schiff is Democrat & Burr is republican. Shift the focus on the other side away from the real culprit - trump himself..

Notwithstanding. Duty of the Intelligence Services is to brief PoUS first, than members of Congress. Sooooooo, why trump ignored or did nothing when he was told about the bounty.?
The whole story is bogus. it has 1 unnamed anonymous source.

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pr126 wrote:
Thu Jul 23, 2020 5:49 pm
@ Hombre:

Get used to disappointment.
It is likely that there will be another four years of Trump.

Do you think that Biden can do a better job? Seriously?
Election of trump to the Orange House (aka white House) was like - for their new CEO, Microsoft, IBM, Google or Facebook would hire one from the meat packing or paltry industries - with no knowledge or experience how to even use electronic gadgets.

Experience is at the center of qualification. Besides, I like Biden because he is a moderate & thoughtful - rarely if ever shoot-from-the-hip guy like trump is. Also he is not a certified lair as much as trump is.

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