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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:23 pm
by idesigner1
Trump or US is not afraid of Isis retaliations. US secret service can nullify them and can protect Trump.

They tried that with Obama and Bush family. Yes they can't protect them when they travel abroad.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 9:13 pm
by manfred
I am currently more concerned about Trump stumbling in to armed conflicts... either in Syria with Russia or in North Korea which may well involve Chine and even nuclear bombs.

A little less testosterone perhaps, and a bit more brains?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:10 am
by Hombre
idesigner1 wrote:Trump or US is not afraid of Isis retaliations. US secret service can nullify them and can protect Trump.

They tried that with Obama and Bush family. Yes they can't protect them when they travel abroad.
I was alluding to his properties - particularly those hotels & condo's outside US named "Trump" owned by local businessman.

Otherwise, I will be damned if my tax money will go to secure those buildings in Turkey, or Indonesia.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:14 am
by Hombre
manfred wrote:I am currently more concerned about Trump stumbling in to armed conflicts... either in Syria with Russia or in North Korea which may well involve Chine and even nuclear bombs.

A little less testosterone perhaps, and a bit more brains?
Syria, Russia and most of all North Korean leaders are already calling his bluff.
The guy is a joke, and subject to ridicule around the world. Worse yet, he may very well bring us nuclear holocaust.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:43 pm
by Centaur
Not a fan of Trump, but me thinks, he would still make a better president than Hillary. Hillary would have been a disaster. the chances of hIllary starting WW3 , if she were in power, was much higher than Trump doing so.And also Trump should be appreciated for being the first president in US history to point fingers at root cause aka Islam rather than pretending to be fighting its symptoms like isis,Alqaeda etc, especially when all others preferred to beat around the Bush on the premise that eradicating symptoms will solve the illness for once and all, because Islam.illness is peace or harmless.How do you win a war without knowing who your enemy is?. When their Ambassador was killed Bengasi Hilary the witch initially lied that it was a local protest against Mohd movie or something. Then she lied again to cover up her initial lies, but in fact it was planned terrorist attack.Hillary also wanted to bring in thousands of Muslims from countries like syria and Somalia, mostly people who will never integrate and profess most intolerable form of Islam, to please her progressive friends, which would have been another disaster.
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/05/24/how-many-muslims-would-hillary-clinton-flood-america-with-during-her-first-term/

Hillary would have embraced them and made them live among plebs, while living far away in her fortress, well separated.she knows they would vote her, and will be well appreciated by her progressive friends.
http://dennismichaellynch.com/u-s-sends-planeload-somalian-migrants-back-home/

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 4:15 pm
by glitch
Hombre wrote:
manfred wrote:I am currently more concerned about Trump stumbling in to armed conflicts... either in Syria with Russia or in North Korea which may well involve Chine and even nuclear bombs.

A little less testosterone perhaps, and a bit more brains?
Syria, Russia and most of all North Korean leaders are already calling his bluff.
The guy is a joke, and subject to ridicule around the world. Worse yet, he may very well bring us nuclear holocaust.



So as usual, you got any evidence other that your I hate Trump shpeel?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2017 6:38 pm
by manfred
Glitch, I never said I hated Trump. He has merely been in office for 3 months, and a lot of people made trouble for him purely out of spite. Obama issued several immigration bans similar to his, but nobody went mad over that... so something is not quite right...

I do worry about what he is like under pressure though. I hope he can keep a clear head when provoked.

The key to the North Korea issue is not bombs, it is working something out with China. The CLAIM that they have limited influence on North Korea, when in fact they provide the umbilical cord keeping the place alive.

And Obama's "strategic tolerance" is also neither strategic nor tolerant. It is appeasement which in the end will create an ever bigger problem. It needs to be addressed, but ideally with a minimum of violence.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:48 am
by sum
Hello manfred

I think that glitch was referring to Hombre, not you. That`s how I see it.

sum

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:50 pm
by Hombre
sum wrote:Hello manfred

I think that glitch was referring to Hombre, not you. That`s how I see it.

sum
Yes indeed sum. You are right - the very reason I stopped taking this guy seriously. He does not read comments - oy vey if they contradict his narrow and shallow uber-rightwing ideology.

A typical FoxNews viewer. Shoot first - talk next - last, think

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:16 pm
by Hombre
Centaur wrote:Not a fan of Trump, but me thinks, he would still make a better president than Hillary
In today's complex world of connected global economy - experience speak much louder then bluster. Clinton has it - Trump does not.
In just 3 month on the job, this Trump idiot is just about to start WWIII with nuclear armed N. Korea hreaded by irrational & crazy dude.

And also Trump should be appreciated for being the first president in US history to point fingers at root cause aka Islam
My good man. I wish to Allah, world we live today, is as simple as you and Trump see it - It is not.


When their Ambassador was killed Bengasi Hilary the witch initially lied that it was a local protest against Mohd movie or something. Then she lied again to cover up her initial lies, but in fact it was planned terrorist attack
It is clear you are not quite verse with American politics Elephants (GOP) try to TRUMPel the Donkey (Dem). She was top Diplomat - Not head of security. Moreover, as far as I understand, Benghazi complex was a CIA station and those killed "diplomats" were CIA agents. Obviously Libyans loyal to Ghadafi also knew that fact - the very reason they attacked this station & not others. GOP just tried to force her to publicly admit they were CIA agents - then blame her for treason (Disclose their name), thus derail her candidacy.

As experience as she is - she refused to fall into their trap. a fact which got them more mad.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:42 pm
by Fernando
Hombre: your reply doesn't answer Centaur's point that Hillary blamed Bengazi on a riot over the Mohammed cartoon video, when it was known to be a planned terrorist attack. Whether it was a CIA station or not doesn't alter that.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 1:18 pm
by Hombre
Fernando,
I hear you. Nonetheless, fact is fact. HC (or any Sec. of State for that matter) is NOT in charge of security for US embassies around the world - Particularity where CIA agents are stations - under some diplomatic title. Either Secrete Service or other security agency.

Had HC been a Republican - would republicans would be barking as they did to her as democrat? - off course not.

What's more breathtaking, is degree of hypocrisy and outright venom coming from neo-conservatives. On one side, they attack HC for using private server, yet they ignore or defend Trump's own aids - whom all 16 US security agencies including FBI asserted they were working for, associating with and profiting from US's arch rival - Putin.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 4:19 pm
by sum
Hello Hombre

One has to ask if Hilary Clinton actually knew that the attack was pre-planned and not a reaction to the Muhammad video. If she knew that it was pre-planned and not a reaction to the video then why did she lie?

If she truly did not know that it was pre-planned why did she state that it was because of the video and try to place some responsibility back onto non-muslims instead of criticising the muslims for the attack?

Can you comment on this and clarify if possible?

sum

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:17 am
by Hombre
sum,
first we need to examine the facts. if indeed there was a planned attack on the compound - who gave her this information? Who's job to inform the President & pertinent cabinets such information. It is CIA, or FBI .

Then, the question is, since CIA had this information before she did, did they or did they act on it. After all, their own agents life were at risk - not only the ambassador. What I am saying, while S. of States do have responsibility for their staff - security is handled by security agencies, not diplomats, and act under orders directly from the President - not SoS.

As for lying? when it comes to security and espionage, we both know - they all lie.

This is just another amateurish and venomous mean by GOP uber-conservatives to discredit their opponents, and HC in particular. Their hypocrisy comes into focus, when they refuse to investigate credible information revealed by all (16) US intelligent services about Russia meddling in US elections, and worse, Trump's own staff, whom during the campaign were traveling to Russia and met Russians.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 7:21 am
by Garudaman
sum wrote:If she truly did not know that it was pre-planned why did she state that it was because of the video and try to place some responsibility back onto non-muslims instead of criticising the muslims for the attack?

because muslim attack is caused by non-muslim video? :lol:

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:32 am
by Fernando
Garudaman wrote:because muslim attack is caused by non-muslim video? :lol:
Assuming for a moment that it was, does that make it OK, Garudaman?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:09 am
by Centaur
In just 3 month on the job, this Trump idiot is just about to start WWIII with nuclear armed N. Korea hreaded by irrational & crazy dude.

Hillary is evil personified and the chances of her starting ww3 was much higher than Trump doing so.

My good man. I wish to Allah, world we live today, is as simple as you and Trump see it - It is not.

yep lets all say it has nothing to with it like Hillary, and invite more of them and when they do it again repeat the same thing. Make sense.

Here is the entire timeline of the evil Hillary as far as Benghazi is concerned.
http://www.factcheck.org/2016/06/the-benghazi-timeline-clinton-edition/
not even fit for the job of a nanny let alone president

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 5:36 pm
by Hombre
My dear centaur,
Safety and security of the world now, is NOT at the hand of Hillary Ro-h-dam Clinton - It is at the hand of a man whom, almost unanimously agreed, he is a crazy irrational outright stupid.

By now, you and your uber-conservative cohorts should realize that Trump & foxnews style diversion (it is Hillary, or Obama or Liberals) no longer work - at least nor here, not with me.

this sob is in charge - buck stops at his desk, responsiblity now is his & his alone. Time for this moron stop blabbering, and waste tax payers money with his $3M / week weekend vacations to Mar-de-Lego stop play gulf, and bring results to make this crazy world safer and more prosperous.

From now on You and other uber-conservatives will talk about Trump & ONLY Trump. That is if you want to be taken seriously here.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 5:39 pm
by idesigner1
President Trump supports Turkish president Erdogan.

He will use his dictatorial power to Islamize Turkey . He wants to be world Islamic leader. Not good for Israel.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 8:42 pm
by Fernando
idesigner1 wrote:President Trump supports Turkish president Erdogan.

He will use his dictatorial power to Islamize Turkey . He wants to be world Islamic leader. Not good for Israel.
Not good for anybody. Especially as the EU enlargement woman still wants that benighted country to join.