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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Aug 30, 2019 5:39 pm
by glitch
Anyone notice now that Hombre's "These fine intelligence officers will get Trump" narrative is falling apart, he goes onto Trump being spiritually bankrupt.

“I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any strange gods before Me.”
“Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.” (This means to carry the name of God in the wrong way...)
“Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day.”
“Honor thy father and mother.”
“Thou shalt not murder.”
“Thou shalt not commit adultery.”
“Thou shalt not steal.”
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.”
“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.”
“Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.”

Sorry Hombre but being a narcassist is not on the list.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Aug 31, 2019 11:02 am
by antineoETC
Takeiteasynow wrote:And then there's China that needs enormous amounts of resources.
So (sub)tropical habitats and communities are being destroyed after Beijing's foreign trade minister signals some dictator that China needs a particular (mineral) resource.


And, as I pointed out before, the "rise of China" was the consequence of the (mainly) UK and US business elites transferring their production east where they could pollute and exploit workers with impunity. The upside of the development of China is that you now have a non-Muslim industrial superpower on the eastern side of EurAsia that has zero tolerance of any nonsense from our friends. Unfortunately, China is interested in expanding industrial capacity in Muslim countries that could be seized by jihadists and turned over to mass weapons production.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 9:36 pm
by glitch
I have a question for Hombre--if Hombre is a isreali--was he in a coma just 10 years ago?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:25 pm
by Hombre
With idiots like trump who scuttled the TPP agreement w/o even knowing its purpose & objective, how can we win?

Worried about their future dominated by their neighbor China, TPP was formed by 11 countries - including US & excluding China. With 40% of Global GDP, these countries could form a powerful economic bloc - counteracting China's aggressive economic expansion in China Basin..

What did this thoughtless Don Quixote do? - withdraw US from the TPP & fight everyone & just because his predecessor Obama had negotiated it.He is such a smart ass cookie - he (trump) would negotiated a better deal for US. By now we all witnessed his negotiating tactic - bulling others to submit to his will yet accomplish little. So far we have not seen his skills are working for US - only advance his own economic interest not to serve his country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:36 pm
by Centaur
with idiots like obama or killary making deals like nafta or iran deal in which Iran was given free billions it shoudnt take a Trump to bin that deals but nay jack or harry should be able to do that . The said deal does not deal with the main issue which is currency manipulation by china and thus ineffective like any oher dumb deals made by obama in order to appeal to his own libtard ego. Good riddance. :*)

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:37 am
by Hombre
Centaur wrote:with idiots like obama or killary making deals like nafta or iran deal in which Iran was given free billions it shoudnt take a Trump to bin that deals but nay jack or harry should be able to do that . The said deal does not deal with the main issue which is currency manipulation by china and thus ineffective like any oher dumb deals made by obama in order to appeal to his own libtard ego. Good riddance. :*)
As much as I loath the regime in Iran & wish it deposed to the hills of Qum where they belong - Obama reached the 2015 Nuclear agreement with 5+1 other nations. The assumption was then, in 15 years western countries will have enough time to formulate a regime change in Iran.

As for the "release money to Mullahs in Tehran". When the revolution on 1979 the Mullahs ceased the US embassy in Tehran - US immediately froze $150B which the late Shah of Iran was stashing Iran's oil money here in US. Needless to say, this money was earning good interest income which has been collected by US since 1979. Therefore, we just returned to Iran only the principal - while pocketing tens of Billions of interest from that money.

While I do agree with you on the need to hold china accountable for stealing technology from us - Obama was smart enough to realize you need to use your head. Even a super power needs allies to prevail in today's fast changing geopolitical landscapes - instead go-alone Don Quixote style "stick it to them" as trump does.

As we witness, China of today if far stronger then yesterday. We no longer can push them around around into submission. As we have seen EU & China had made it clear to trump - his tariff on them - will be met with more tariff on US market. Who is crying foul? - our own farmers are paying the price.

What I am trying to convey - the world is not as simple as this poorly informed trump views as well as manners to treat others. trump is nothing more then paper tiger who acts the tough-buff guy. But in reality he is ill suited to command the mighties military force on earth - nor a sophisticated economies of today.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:23 am
by Ansar al-Zindiqi

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:52 am
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Trump Derangement Syndrome: Let's Talk About It :tempted:


Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:41 pm
by Fernando
antineoETC wrote: Stop overexploiting biological and mineral resources, stop exterminating wildlife and you reduce energy consumption and reduce CO2 emissions.
You missed out "stop breeding like flies". Overpopulation seems to be beloved of globalists and can only accelerate consumption and pollution.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:08 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Fernando wrote:
antineoETC wrote: Stop overexploiting biological and mineral resources, stop exterminating wildlife and you reduce energy consumption and reduce CO2 emissions.
You missed out "stop breeding like flies". Overpopulation seems to be beloved of globalists and can only accelerate consumption and pollution.


The little known history of the eugenics movement is deeply intertwined with white supremacist thought of the late 1800's to the early 1900's. The early women's rights movements had personalities such as Margaret Sanger who espoused both racist views as well as female emancipation with population control being one of it's philosophical foundations. Even though she was against abortion.

Most people nowadays don't know that so it can come as an unpleasant surprise when they are faced with the ugly history of eugenics and how it was once part of the early environmentalist movement. A lot of people really believed in it back then. Most of today's environmentalists just aren't aware about those details. As far as I'm concerned one can still be an environmentalist without buying into the "climate change" platform or much less eugenics.

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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 2:58 am
by glitch
Hombre wrote:
Centaur wrote:with idiots like obama or killary making deals like nafta or iran deal in which Iran was given free billions it shoudnt take a Trump to bin that deals but nay jack or harry should be able to do that . The said deal does not deal with the main issue which is currency manipulation by china and thus ineffective like any oher dumb deals made by obama in order to appeal to his own libtard ego. Good riddance. :*)
As much as I loath the regime in Iran & wish it deposed to the hills of Qum where they belong - Obama reached the 2015 Nuclear agreement with 5+1 other nations. The assumption was then, in 15 years western countries will have enough time to formulate a regime change in Iran.

As for the "release money to Mullahs in Tehran". When the revolution on 1979 the Mullahs ceased the US embassy in Tehran - US immediately froze $150B which the late Shah of Iran was stashing Iran's oil money here in US. Needless to say, this money was earning good interest income which has been collected by US since 1979. Therefore, we just returned to Iran only the principal - while pocketing tens of Billions of interest from that money.

While I do agree with you on the need to hold china accountable for stealing technology from us - Obama was smart enough to realize you need to use your head. Even a super power needs allies to prevail in today's fast changing geopolitical landscapes - instead go-alone Don Quixote style "stick it to them" as trump does.

As we witness, China of today if far stronger then yesterday. We no longer can push them around around into submission. As we have seen EU & China had made it clear to trump - his tariff on them - will be met with more tariff on US market. Who is crying foul? - our own farmers are paying the price.

What I am trying to convey - the world is not as simple as this poorly informed trump views as well as manners to treat others. trump is nothing more then paper tiger who acts the tough-buff guy. But in reality he is ill suited to command the mighties military force on earth - nor a sophisticated economies of today.
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Do you notice that Hombre essentially likes to spout the farmers are hurting any chance he can? He brings no evidence, but you know spout out that the middle class bread basket folks are hurting and i guess you have a point? Until Trump makes a deal--oh and Trump wasn't going to really build the wall also, until he started building it.

What will happen when me makes a deal with China--Hombre will sneak off as usual, to only occasionally lift his head and say, Obama was robbed. I notice that Dual Citizen ship Hombre is iving comfortable behind a wall.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 3:48 am
by Nosuperstition
Fernando wrote:
antineoETC wrote: Stop overexploiting biological and mineral resources, stop exterminating wildlife and you reduce energy consumption and reduce CO2 emissions.
You missed out "stop breeding like flies". Overpopulation seems to be beloved of globalists and can only accelerate consumption and pollution.


manfred wrote:Now, reading this story, I would draw a different conclusion.... I would have some difficulty in believing this motive to make the little brother more beautiful. A simpler, and more likely explanation is that the older boy was in some way jealous or angry with his little brother. It sound more like a Cain and Abel scenario to me. The "I wanted to make him fairer" sound like a lame excuse, and a rather dumb one at that.


http://forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=16542&p=220447&hilit=washing+machine#p220447

Then you would be accused of fostering selfishness by having only one child.Many children within the same family supposedly helps them learn the joy of sharing.You will be charged with man-slaughter.In the old forum,some conservative Christian said that the save the enviro fundamentalists are killing millions by opposing increase of food production.

And princess diotima64 will once again lament that we have become like the evil Chinese who are forcing birth control on their subject populace.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2019 5:14 pm
by glitch
Hombre wrote:As much as I loath the regime in Iran & wish it deposed to the hills of Qum where they belong - Obama reached the 2015 Nuclear agreement with 5+1 other nations.




In 2015, Iran agreed a long-term deal on its nuclear programme with a group of world powers known as the P5+1 - the US, UK, France, China, Russia and Germany.

As impressive as Hombre likes to make this sound about the 5 + 1 Nuclear Deal--The three nations at the end do not inspire me to this being a sound deal--I notice as well tha that Isreal was not consulted on this, nor i guess was Saudi Arabia, and as much as I want to be fair--this sounds to me like Hombre wants to prop up the idea as if it was a legitimate deal that like 6 countries agreed to which may be that 6 countries agreed .


The assumption was then, in 15 years western countries will have enough time to formulate a regime change in Iran.


There's no mention of this, in any of the articles I've read, and i invite Isreali expert Hombre to provide that information--regardless whywould Any leader telegraph much less, if its 15 years, lift sanctions and allow in good faith Iran to do what they wanted with barely any supervision--which the deal outlined--as well, why give them the money at all? Obama's own people claimed it was based solely on faith that Iran would do the right thing.

"For President Obama, the deal struck Tuesday morning with Iran represents a similar leap of faith, a bet that by defusing the country’s nuclear threat — even if just for a decade or so — he and his successors would have the time and space to restructure one of the United States’ deepest adversarial relationship.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/15/world/middleeast/iran-nuclear-deal-us.html


As for the "release money to Mullahs in Tehran". When the revolution on 1979 the Mullahs ceased the US embassy in Tehran - US immediately froze $150B which the late Shah of Iran was stashing Iran's oil money here in US. Needless to say, this money was earning good interest income which has been collected by US since 1979. Therefore, we just returned to Iran only the principal - while pocketing tens of Billions of interest from that money.


Well if that's the case it wasn't Iran's in the first place and it was a bribe that Iran shouldn't have recieved--but i guess Obama believed it was right--so he did what he wanted.

While I do agree with you on the need to hold china accountable for stealing technology from us - Obama was smart enough to realize you need to use your head. Even a super power needs allies to prevail in today's fast changing geopolitical landscapes - instead go-alone Don Quixote style "stick it to them" as trump does.

As we witness, China of today if far stronger then yesterday. We no longer can push them around around into submission. As we have seen EU & China had made it clear to trump - his tariff on them - will be met with more tariff on US market. Who is crying foul? - our own farmers are paying the price.

So again, Hombre falls back on the poor farmers--what Hombre would call the morons who elected Trump--but they are essentially the card Hombre pays everytime--an article by the way claims that 5 times the numbers of Farmers are filing Bankruptcy--a statistic that seems to blame Trump for the issue, yet provides no evidence that any of that is Trump's fault--none of the bankruptcy issues have anything to do with not being able to harvest and sell in the middle of the summer. There's no evidence that has anything to do with Trump. Rather it would have to do with Obama.


What I am trying to convey - the world is not as simple as this poorly informed trump views as well as manners to treat others.


Again, Hombre attacks Trump on Style every time--he refuses to cover his policies or his achievements. Hombre is a paper tiger who moves on to the first issue he can when his Trump derangement has nothing. Hombre also ignores Obama's record since you know, 6 nations liked the Iran deal--2 of them obvious examples of human right's violations galore and one of them, ignoring their own citizen for the Syrian Refuges Right to rape Kafir women.

trump is nothing more then paper tiger who acts the tough-buff guy. But in reality he is ill suited to command the mighties military force on earth - nor a sophisticated economies of today.


How many wars are we involved in under Trump's command?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 11:11 am
by Takeiteasynow
I don't think Trump has to worry about the endless amount of media frames going his way. Let's look at the latest developments....

The Depart of justice is about to
- indict Andrew McCabe, former director of the FBI
and started separate investigations on
- James Comey's leaking to CNN;
- Comey's role in FISA abuse;
- Comey's role in the origins of the Russia witch hunt;
- Comey's evaluation of the Christopher Steele's report;
- irregularities during his testimony on Capitol Hill.

We can all look forward to a slow roast of the Dem's inner circle in 2020.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:19 pm
by glitch
Takeiteasynow wrote:I don't think Trump has to worry about the endless amount of media frames going his way. Let's look at the latest developments....

The Depart of justice is about to
- indict Andrew McCabe, former director of the FBI
and started separate investigations on
- James Comey's leaking to CNN;
- Comey's role in FISA abuse;
- Comey's role in the origins of the Russia witch hunt;
- Comey's evaluation of the Christopher Steele's report;
- irregularities during his testimony on Capitol Hill.

We can all look forward to a slow roast of the Dem's inner circle in 2020.


but, but but Hombre said:

While every new President reserves the absolute right to chose his cabinet - insults with ad homiem & denigrating the former heads of CIA, DNI, & the FBI is not part of the "game". They will get even with him - best during the elections. How? What is going to prevent them to anonymously release damaging info on him gathered during their tenure at these dreaded institutions.


The bottom line is - no one can go around and antagonize so many powerful people w/o consequences. Soon or later they will strike back at him (I don't mean with violence).

If you think John Brennen (CIA), Jim Clapper (NI) or Comey (FBI) don't have damaging information on trump gathered from their days as heads of these agencies - think again. Comes next fall, surreptitiously they could release very damaging info to NYTime, WashPost, or Politico, thus reduce his chance for reelection.

Maybe the reality will hit trump when he turns off enough people who will realize he is not the shining armor as he presents himself to them & not vote for him comes next November.




Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:03 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Hombre wrote:With idiots like trump who scuttled the TPP agreement w/o even knowing its purpose & objective, how can we win?

Worried about their future dominated by their neighbor China, TPP was formed by 11 countries - including US & excluding China. With 40% of Global GDP, these countries could form a powerful economic bloc - counteracting China's aggressive economic expansion in China Basin..

What did this thoughtless Don Quixote do? - withdraw US from the TPP & fight everyone & just because his predecessor Obama had negotiated it.He is such a smart ass cookie - he (trump) would negotiated a better deal for US. By now we all witnessed his negotiating tactic - bulling others to submit to his will yet accomplish little. So far we have not seen his skills are working for US - only advance his own economic interest not to serve his country.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Pacific_Partnership


Interesting that you would say that. Four years ago in 2015 leftist protesters were quite active in opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership. Trump wasn't even an issue then.


Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:42 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
It's not a question of if but when.

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I know there is a lot of discussion about US federal indictments and especially about how Pacer publishes their notices but I must say that it is close to overflowing.

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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 7:47 pm
by Ansar al-Zindiqi
Meanwhile, John Podesta still walks among us.

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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2019 1:07 am
by Ansar al-Zindiqi

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:28 am
by Hombre
Takeiteasynow wrote:I don't think Trump has to worry about the endless amount of media frames going his way. Let's look at the latest developments....

The Depart of justice is about to
- indict Andrew McCabe, former director of the FBI
and started separate investigations on
- James Comey's leaking to CNN;Come'on you guys.
- Comey's role in FISA abuse;
- Comey's role in the origins of the Russia witch hunt;
- Comey's evaluation of the Christopher Steele's report;
- irregularities during his testimony on Capitol Hill.

We can all look forward to a slow roast of the Dem's inner circle in 2020.
Come'on you guys. Use your judgment - will you?. As far as I know, in one of the rare occasions, The Grand Jury had voted against indictment. Moreover, As heads of the FBI, he & Comey were privy to trump's own file there - even supervised the investigation into his connections to & nefarious activities in Russia.

If indicted - their defense attorneys will do everything to defend them - including spill the beans on trump with evidence from their years of investigation into him. "Look, (they will the court) this is what we were investigating". They could submit to the court cases on trump own connection to Russian operatives during the 2016 campaign.

Since this indictment will have severe negative effects on other FBI personnel - what will take for someone anonymously leak to NYTime, WashPost or Politico few incriminating information on trump? I assure you - not much.

As I said before, trump is playing with fire, while accumulating quite a few powerful enemies. Soon or later they will strike beck which could doom his chances for re-election.

SDNY already has enough evidence obtained from Mueller Investigation to indict him on 11 counts of Obstruction of Justice. The day he leaves office they will "greet him with massive indictment which could dismantle his entire organization, & no Pardon will help him from the legal mess he will be.