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Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:35 pm
by glitch
BaigZaheer wrote:There is a curse mentioned in Joshua 6 and I am pleased to quote:

26 At that time Joshua pronounced this solemn oath: “Cursed before the Lord is the one who undertakes to rebuild this city, Jericho:

“At the cost of his firstborn son
he will lay its foundations;
at the cost of his youngest
he will set up its gates.”

Israel built Jericho and we can see the result. LOL!

Thanks, Habibi.


Rebuilt by a king years ago, then destroyed again. That king--dead--clearly cursed--he who rebuilt it--this doesn't apply to every generation after this or every jew, thanks for trying to say we can't even read you illiterate hack.
Isreal the reestablished nation did not rebuild it today--so are you done now bible scholar.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:57 pm
by Hombre
Equestrian wrote:Oh, but this is priceless.

Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.

I'm sure that BaigZaheer's policy prescriptions for the people of the cursed land would be absolutely magnanimous. Certainly, when compared to Trump.

Kemo-Sahbi, Hombre the cursed.
This paragraph makes no sense to me. Do you mind clarifying it further?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:48 am
by glitch
Hombre wrote:
Equestrian wrote:Oh, but this is priceless.

Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.

I'm sure that BaigZaheer's policy prescriptions for the people of the cursed land would be absolutely magnanimous. Certainly, when compared to Trump.

Kemo-Sahbi, Hombre the cursed.
This paragraph makes no sense to me. Do you mind clarifying it further?


What's not clear--you've agreed with him for a couple of posts now on Trump? You hate Trump so much you'll agree with a mohamadden who believes you have the curse of god on you>

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:41 am
by Equestrian
Hombre wrote:
Equestrian wrote:Oh, but this is priceless.

Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.

I'm sure that BaigZaheer's policy prescriptions for the people of the cursed land would be absolutely magnanimous. Certainly, when compared to Trump.

Kemo-Sahbi, Hombre the cursed.
This paragraph makes no sense to me. Do you mind clarifying it further?


Hombre the Cursed,

The paragraph consists only of two sentences that are explicit and unambiguous. So the question is, does the paragraph make sense?

Well, let's unpack it.

1) Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, 2) has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.



1) Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump

This statement is undeniably true given your disposition toward Trump.


2) [Hombre] has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land

Given the subject of the sentence above and it's relation to the participants of the thread, this statement seems sensible.


Despite his antagonistic views of Israel, you have forged a doting partnership with BaigZ in opposition to those who express support for Trump.

The irony, Cursed One, is that Trump is extremely sympathetic towards Israel, yet your hatred of Trump is so vast that you have formed a common cause comradeship with a Mohammedan who has openly expressed disdain for Israel.

Makes perfect sense to me.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:34 pm
by manfred
What a load of tripe... have a look at Joshua 6 and read ALL of it.

It is the well known story of the destruction of Jericho. It has nothing to do with any Israelites being cursed. Joshua issues a "warning" against any attempts to rebuild the city directed at his enemies or anyone who wants to see the city rise again to fight the Israelites.

There is a parallel to the Joshua "curse":

Kings 16:34 says
"In his days Hiel of Bethel built Jericho. He laid its foundation at the cost of Abiram his firstborn, and set up its gates at the cost of his youngest son Segub, according to the word of the LORD, which he spoke by Joshua the son of Nun."


This according to the HB is the END of the curse, as it has been "fulfilled". Note that it doesn not "curse" Jericho as a place nor suggests that it will never be rebuilt.

And it is no miracle or coincidence that the two passages "match"... both are from the same author tradition, the deuteronomist.

http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/vie ... 1-0028.xml

Nor is it directed at "Jews"....

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:10 pm
by glitch
manfred wrote:What a load of tripe... have a look at Joshua 6 and read ALL of it.

It is the well known story of the destruction of Jericho. It has nothing to do with any Israelites being cursed. Joshua issues a "warning" against any attempts to rebuild the city directed at his enemies or anyone who wants to see the city rise again to fight the Israelites.

There is a parallel to the Joshua "curse":

Kings 16:34 says
"In his days Hiel of Bethel built Jericho. He laid its foundation at the cost of Abiram his firstborn, and set up its gates at the cost of his youngest son Segub, according to the word of the LORD, which he spoke by Joshua the son of Nun."


This according to the HB is the END of the curse, as it has been "fulfilled". Note that it doesn not "curse" Jericho as a place nor suggests that it will never be rebuilt.

And it is no miracle or coincidence that the two passages "match"... both are from the same author tradition, the deuteronomist.

http://www.oxfordbibliographies.com/vie ... 1-0028.xml

Nor is it directed at "Jews"....



Manfred Muslims make up their own logic bout the bible--they never read it through. They never believe its lines except to use it the way they wish to--to try and hurt Judiasm or Christianity--they are never academically honest--we should know this by now--i''ve known it since 9/11--it hasn't changed--but Hombre should have been the first to call ZB or BZ on this--and he didn't.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:32 am
by Hombre
Equestrian wrote:
Hombre wrote:
Equestrian wrote:Oh, but this is priceless.

Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.

I'm sure that BaigZaheer's policy prescriptions for the people of the cursed land would be absolutely magnanimous. Certainly, when compared to Trump.

Kemo-Sahbi, Hombre the cursed.
This paragraph makes no sense to me. Do you mind clarifying it further?


Hombre the Cursed,

The paragraph consists only of two sentences that are explicit and unambiguous. So the question is, does the paragraph make sense?

Well, let's unpack it.

1) Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump, 2) has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land.



1) Hombre, in his pathological hatred of Trump

This statement is undeniably true given your disposition toward Trump.


2) [Hombre] has allied himself with a Muhammedan that believes Israel a cursed land

Given the subject of the sentence above and it's relation to the participants of the thread, this statement seems sensible.


Despite his antagonistic views of Israel, you have forged a doting partnership with BaigZ in opposition to those who express support for Trump.

The irony, Cursed One, is that Trump is extremely sympathetic towards Israel, yet your hatred of Trump is so vast that you have formed a common cause comradeship with a Mohammedan who has openly expressed disdain for Israel.

Makes perfect sense to me.
What the hell are you blabbering about?. Much like you ill-informed compadre (glitch), write comments devoid any rational. You are no different than him. The very reason I stopped reading his comments/replies.

What is wrong with being civilized with those who we disagree with?. I am fully aware BeigZaheer is a Muslim. Unlike SAMi (the bull) who is crude, BZ is civilized and respectful to my comments or replies. The same is true with Mughal with whom I also disagree on matters of Islam.

Yes, we agree with some & disagree with others. That's doesn't mean you have to be crude, and belligerent with those who are - for the most part, respectful to you.

As for trump. I made it very clear. As an Israeli, I do support his policy vis-a-vis Iran & Israel and thank him for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital. As an American though, I don't support - not only him - but any President who lies with such magnitude, and cheats his wives. Moreover, mislead people that he is concerned about their interest. Nor a leader of the world who spend 5 hours a day watch commercial TV, or change his mind when a talking heads in radio & TV criticize his decision.

Just read some of my comments to SAMi (the Bull) and witness how I treat people like him. :horseride:

Finally, you can keep your lables (Muhamadian, Liberal, or trump hater) to yourself. I have no use for this type of garbage.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:53 am
by glitch
Then Denouce Clinton Hombre.
By your own logic you should hate Clinton.
Secondly, Trump's recent address has no lies in it what-so-ever. and as an Isreali...you know Walls work. Don't they?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:37 am
by Fernando
glitch wrote:Secondly, Trump's recent address has no lies in it what-so-ever. and as an Isreali...you know Walls work. Don't they?
Could someone remind me please, what the US Democrats object to: is it the wall itself, or is it actually stopping illegal immigration by whatever means?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:31 pm
by manfred
Fernando wrote:
glitch wrote:Secondly, Trump's recent address has no lies in it what-so-ever. and as an Isreali...you know Walls work. Don't they?
Could someone remind me please, what the US Democrats object to: is it the wall itself, or is it actually stopping illegal immigration by whatever means?


Interesting question...

I passed through Switzerland by car this Christmas, and they have a fence, 4 m high, with razor wire on the top, at the border with Italy. I have seen it, on the road from Mendrisio in Switzerland to Varese in Italy. They also have gun turrets facing Germany, near Basel. Nobody seems to mind and nobody complains.

So do I think the US democrats object to the wall or to illegal immigration? I think they do not really care too much about either. They do object to Trump though.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:32 pm
by glitch
Hombre wrote:[What the hell are you blabbering about?. Much like you ill-informed compadre (glitch), write comments devoid any rational. You are no different than him. The very reason I stopped reading his comments/replies.


Please note, that the sentence was unpacked for Hombre in extensive detail. His response after very clear statements--written clearly is that the poster is blabbering. Dishonesty at its best--or Hombre just didn't read it.

Packed in there--an attack on me. anything to bash me--and in turn bash Trump.

What is wrong with being civilized with those who we disagree with?. I am fully aware BeigZaheer is a Muslim. Unlike SAMi (the bull) who is crude, BZ is civilized and respectful to my comments or replies. The same is true with Mughal with whom I also disagree on matters of Islam.


Then, Hombre states, I know he's a muslim--but you know he hates Trump--so we can be civil in our Trump Hatred--Hatred of a man who, by the way has been extremely kind to Isreal, unlike Barak Obama who essentially treated Isreal like CRAP constantly--this is established--a known fact. But you know, Trump is an ass, so anything to hit Trump hard.

Yes, we agree with some & disagree with others. That's doesn't mean you have to be crude, and belligerent with those who are - for the most part, respectful to you.



He agrees with Hombre on Trump--nothing else--Jews are human Trash. Iran is not a threat--it treats jews Wonderfully says one Rabbi in the middle of a country that will execute anyoe who doesn't espouse the Iran is amazing though.

As for trump. I made it very clear. As an Israeli, I do support his policy vis-a-vis Iran & Israel and thank him for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital. As an American though, I don't support - not only him - but any President who lies with such magnitude, and cheats his wives.


The cheating happened before he was president--it is a character flaw all of which has nothing to do with his policies. Note Hombre will not discuss any of his policies.

Obama lied on much larger issues that Trump does--nothing Trump lied on actually hurt anyone. Obama lied on his signature legislation and he lied to push Obama care through. Trump might exagerate numbers--lately though he's lowballed numbers. Clinton lied under oath in order to burn someone he raped--so did Hillary Clinton. Clinton lied about her emails! but you don't hear any mention of that--do you--not from Hombre--anything to hurt Trump.

Moreover, mislead people that he is concerned about their interest. Nor a leader of the world who spend 5 hours a day watch commercial TV, or change his mind when a talking heads in radio & TV criticize his decision.


and in the end--he quotes no example except that Trump watched "commercial TV."

Just read some of my comments to SAMi (the Bull) and witness how I treat people like him. :horseride:

Finally, you can keep your lables (Muhamadian, Liberal, or trump hater) to yourself. I have no use for this type of garbage.



And yet, the trash BZ or ZB calls you Cursed and that barely bothers you--you are a trump Hater in every way because you won't actually deal with Trump's actions in office or his policies.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:15 pm
by glitch
One small question--do you think it would have been possible for someone to claim Obama should have been removed from Office over his birth certificate? Do you think anyone would have dared yell impeachment over such a thing, which by the way there was more questionable evidence for than Russian Collusion.

I'm sorry, But i want an honest answer on this--Russian Collusion isn't a crime--but the plan on day one was to accuse him of this to try to deligitimize his election--do you think its fair the way they have treated the president--clearly Hombre does...

I want to be clear if there was a special council appointed to try and prove Obama wasn't born in America, with the specific intent to try and impeach him and remove him from office.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:12 am
by Equestrian
Hombre wrote:What the hell are you blabbering about?. Much like you ill-informed compadre (glitch), write comments devoid any rational. You are no different than him. The very reason I stopped reading his comments/replies.

What is wrong with being civilized with those who we disagree with?. I am fully aware BeigZaheer is a Muslim. Unlike SAMi (the bull) who is crude, BZ is civilized and respectful to my comments or replies. The same is true with Mughal with whom I also disagree on matters of Islam.

Yes, we agree with some & disagree with others. That's doesn't mean you have to be crude, and belligerent with those who are - for the most part, respectful to you.

As for trump. I made it very clear. As an Israeli, I do support his policy vis-a-vis Iran & Israel and thank him for recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's Capital. As an American though, I don't support - not only him - but any President who lies with such magnitude, and cheats his wives. Moreover, mislead people that he is concerned about their interest. Nor a leader of the world who spend 5 hours a day watch commercial TV, or change his mind when a talking heads in radio & TV criticize his decision.

Just read some of my comments to SAMi (the Bull) and witness how I treat people like him. :horseride:

Finally, you can keep your lables (Muhamadian, Liberal, or trump hater) to yourself. I have no use for this type of garbage.


I see nothing wrong with being civilized or respectful to those you disagree with. But it seems that you do.

Hombre wrote:What the hell are you blabbering about?. Much like you ill-informed compadre (glitch), write comments devoid any rational.


Cursed One,

The satire in my previous post can hardly be considered disrespectful or uncivilized, yet your response to me was less than civilized. In fact, as I've shown above, your very first sentence contradicts the passage that immediately follows.

The point of my satire, of which had not adequately addressed, simply demonstrates the dubious bedfellows you are willing to make in your unyielding contempt for Trump.

You've implied that you hold no contempt for Trump, but this does not reflect your writings on this thread. This thread chronicles your unhealthy obsession with Trump, and it is neither endearing nor tempered.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:32 pm
by glitch
Hombre wrote:What the hell are you blabbering about?. Much like you ill-informed compadre (glitch), write comments devoid any rational.


Cursed One,

The satire in my previous post can hardly be considered disrespectful or uncivilized, yet your response to me was less than civilized. In fact, as I've shown above, your very first sentence contradicts the passage that immediately follows.

The point of my satire, of which had not adequately addressed, simply demonstrates the dubious bedfellows you are willing to make in your unyielding contempt for Trump.

You've implied that you hold no contempt for Trump, but this does not reflect your writings on this thread. This thread chronicles your unhealthy obsession with Trump, and it is neither endearing nor tempered.



Thank you--as evidenced by the clear fact he won't talk about his policies--when asked even to discuss fighting terrorism, his statement was "Trump is too Stupid." He called him a shill for Saudia Arabia--denying that Obama flat out bowed before the king no medal involved--when asked to discuss Trump's behavior to Isreal he mentioned he's happy about Jerusalem's capital and the embassy--but then he continues to bash the man, but not before implying constantly that he's a russian manchurian candidate over and over.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:11 am
by Hombre
Fernando wrote:
glitch wrote:Secondly, Trump's recent address has no lies in it what-so-ever. and as an Isreali...you know Walls work. Don't they?
Could someone remind me please, what the US Democrats object to: is it the wall itself, or is it actually stopping illegal immigration by whatever means?
Fernando, This is a bit complicated as the real reasons for Democrats objections.
a) Please remember that to trump it is all about image, and HIS need to maintain that image of the tough-puff guy to his poorly informed upporters. He couldn't care less about the wall. He insisted on it so later he can brag - "promise made - Promise kept".

b) this is all about politics and the groundwork for 2020 general elections. As opposition party - Democrats want to win the WH & the Senat. They will do all they can to bring trump down to size. Tarnish his image to his ardent supporters as not the tough leader - rather a weak and childish one (Schumer's repeated word "president's temper-tantrum"). As an old fox - N. Pelosi is the one who will face him head-on. So it will be interesting two years watch "American Style politics."

c) Parallel to that the House (now controlled by Dems) will perform their spectacle of exposing & publish trump's connections with the Russians - Particularly that now the FBI itself officially investigating any connections between trump's campaign & the Russians.

d) Attorney General of New York - the Southern district is known for its ferocity investigating crimes. This is the same office in which Rudy Juliani (now trump's own lawyer) as former head of that office had dismantled the Mafia & the Cosa-Nostra in the late '70s and '80s.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:18 am
by Hombre
Equestrian wrote:The satire in my previous post can hardly be considered disrespectful or uncivilized, yet your response to me was less than civilized. In fact, as I've shown above, your very first sentence contradicts the passage that immediately follows.

The point of my satire, of which had not adequately addressed, simply demonstrates the dubious bedfellows you are willing to make in your unyielding contempt for Trump.

You've implied that you hold no contempt for Trump, but this does not reflect your writings on this thread. This thread chronicles your unhealthy obsession with Trump, and it is neither endearing nor tempered.
If you meant to post a satire - then perhaps next time be more lucid with your wording. As for trump - I will not apologize for what I wrote about his despicable personal behaviour and the way he conducts himself in the WH - period!!. I still stand by my words.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:44 am
by glitch
Tell the board then what Trump has done which is so horrid--please.. Secondly he campaigned on Building the wall, it is an attempt to keep his promises--which he has kept. Please, what did he do in the White House? Did he have oral sex with a whitehouse intern? no wait? What did he do that was so horrid in the white house--did he sh!t on Isreal--no wait? he didn't. Did he use foul language? Who gives a F*%$! Seriously, this is what you want to remove him for? Again? The Disreali actually is going to tell us that walls don't work? What about the caravan? The one that stormed the border?

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:18 pm
by Equestrian
Hombre wrote:If you meant to post a satire - then perhaps next time be more lucid with your wording. As for trump - I will not apologize for what I wrote about his despicable personal behaviour and the way he conducts himself in the WH - period!!. I still stand by my words.


Right, so I'm not going to hold your hand and explain every literary device in my post. Although, I might consider your request for a more lucid phrasing if you ask me in a respectful and civilized manner.
Just begin your response with "pretty please" whenever you need me to unpack the irony.

As for Trump, I never asked you to apologize for your scandalous characterization of the man. Again, I was simply pointing out the irony of your dogma.

I must confess, however, that hardline ideologues like yourself amuse me. And I do like to humor myself from time to time.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:48 pm
by glitch
Equestrian wrote:
Hombre wrote:If you meant to post a satire - then perhaps next time be more lucid with your wording. As for trump - I will not apologize for what I wrote about his despicable personal behaviour and the way he conducts himself in the WH - period!!. I still stand by my words.


Right, so I'm not going to hold your hand and explain every literary device in my post. Although, I might consider your request for a more lucid phrasing if you ask me in a respectful and civilized manner.
Just begin your response with "pretty please" whenever you need me to unpack the irony.

As for Trump, I never asked you to apologize for your scandalous characterization of the man. Again, I was simply pointing out the irony of your dogma.

I must confess, however, that hardline ideologues like yourself amuse me. And I do like to humor myself from time to time.


Amazing, really. I once asked Hombre to just admit he hated Trump that he was never actually going to deal with his policies--and i would leave him alone. He hates Trump so much that he has to make up that Trump is a liar and cheated on his wife years ago. And in his mind he believes he's being even handed.

Re: PRESIDENT TRUMP

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:50 pm
by Hombre
Equestrian wrote:Right, so I'm not going to hold your hand and explain every literary device in my post. Although, I might consider your request for a more lucid phrasing if you ask me in a respectful and civilized manner.
Just begin your response with "pretty please" whenever you need me to unpack the irony.

As for Trump, I never asked you to apologize for your scandalous characterization of the man. Again, I was simply pointing out the irony of your dogma.

I must confess, however, that hardline ideologues like yourself amuse me. And I do like to humor myself from time to time.
"pretty Please"???
You are indeed funny - or trying to be one. Equally, you too amuse me with your adoration of a man who is taking us down the disastrous path. I am sure you also witnessed how the rest of the world (UN Assembly Sep 2018) literally laughed at his face. All that because of his outlandish comments and continued lies & distortions of facts.

Off course - to those who rely on one source for their information - trump is a hero. Otherwise you and other like you would realize that - notwithstanding promises made during the campaign, once one gets in the WH - things look totally different from the Oval Office. Not every promise made during the campaign can be fulfilled after that. Moreover, his glaring attitude with US's most adversary (Putin & Russia) is a very cause for concern among many intelligence services.

It is not about the wall itself - rather about trump's tactics of manufacturing crises to justify his ultimate objectives of removing anything or anyone who disagrees with him. Furthermore, he trusts Putin (Russia's interference with our election) more than his own intelligence chiefs. Which other U. S. president ever behaved like that? - unless there is a hidden agenda.

Finally, you tell me, how the hell bunch south American women & children escaping poverty & violence from their counties can pose "national emergency" in our country?. Why make such a big deal of it?. The only reason - As I pointed out, is his image vis-a-vis his base of ill-informed gullible admirers..