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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Fernando » Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:42 pm

Man arrested with pig's head hat at anti-Islam protest
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Two people were arrested during an anti-asylum center protest organized by anti-Islam movement Pegida in Ede on Saturday. One of those arrested was Pegida frontman Edwin Wagensveld. He was wearing a hat in the form of a pig’s head at the time, broadcaster NOS reports.

According to the police, Wagensveld was arrested because of provocative behavior. He put on the hat after the police ordered another protester to take it off. Wagensveld was released about an hour after his arrest. The other detainee is still in custody.
http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/02/22/pegida-rep-arrested-with-pigs-head-hat-at-anti-islam-protest-amsterdam-rally-on-feb-27/
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby manfred » Tue Feb 23, 2016 12:39 am

I hope in a few days 1 million or more Dutch people all wear a hat like that.

This really is getting beyond stupid.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Nosuperstition » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:54 pm

manfred wrote:I hope in a few days 1 million or more Dutch people all wear a hat like that.

This really is getting beyond stupid.


Their ancestral Celtic Shamans used to wear real wolf skin hats along with faces of slaughtered wolves and used to converse with Romans after their defeats.Now these people are just wearing a cloth hat.They must be allowed to wear atleast that.
palli or halli in Dravidian languages means a village just like gaav in Aryan languages means a village.palli or halli in Aryan Mauryan Imperial era around 200 B.C designates a tribal hamlet.So many of those in South India are indeed descendants of tribals and are still keeping up that heritage.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:25 pm

If you don't want the nazi cops at your door, you can't write what you think in Holland. Big Brother is watching us.

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TEACHER GETS POLICE VISIT AFTER TWEETING ABOUT MUSLIM CHILDREN CELEBRATING BRUSSELS ATTACK

A Dutch yoga teacher who tweeted that Muslim children were celebrating the attacks in Brussels later received a home visit from the police.

On the same morning that the attacks unfolded, Ivar Mol tweeted (translation), “How do you remember lesson if there in your class is applauded by Muslim children?” The tweet was accompanied by the hashtags #aanslagen and #zaventem, a reference to the suicide bomb attack at Brussels airport.

Mol later told RTL, “I heard messages from friends in Antwerp and Brussels representing the class that there was applause for the attacks.”

Four hours later, Mol tweeted that three police officers had visited his house and that he would “no longer” be tweeting.

The police said they visited Mol because, “We wanted to see what was going on and whether it is true that there was applause in the classroom.”

Mol was later interviewed by a Dutch radio station about the incident and received a call from Paul Depla, the Mayor of the town of Breda. Depla told Mol that the police were not sent on his command and personally apologized to Mol, calling the police visit a “terribly stupid action”.

The story once again emphasizes how the issue is not just with a tiny minority of fringe extremists and that support for terrorism is in fact far more widespread amongst Muslim populations.

The fact that authorities are supposedly overwhelmed by the sheer number of terror plots and jihadists yet have time to visit a yoga teacher over a tweet within hours is also chilling.

As Breitbart reported back in January, Dutch police are now responding to “anti-migrant” comments made on social media.
After tweeting that he thought his city’s proposal to accept 250 refugees was a “bad plan,” small business owner Mark Jongeneel received a home visit from police who warned him to “watch your tone” and that his tweets may be “seditious”.

Dutch residents in numerous other cities were also visited by police after criticizing plans for asylum centers on social media.

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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Fernando » Fri Mar 25, 2016 11:44 pm

The UK is no better, possibly worse. A man claimed on Facebook to have asked a random Muslim woman about the Brussels murders. For that, he was arrested and thrown in gaol for several hours. It's not clear whether he was arrested for being offensive to a random (if she was) woman or for admitting it on-line.
AFIAK that was the end of it, but who knows?
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Fernando » Mon Mar 28, 2016 10:05 am

There's follow-up to the UK case. The police were told by the Crown Prosecution service that they had not the authority to bring the charge and the man was released. He's now threatening to sue for wrongful arrest. I don't wonder, when the later article reveals this:
Last night LSE graduate Mr Doyle told The Mail on Sunday he planned to take legal action over his ordeal.

‘I cannot understand why I was detained, my flat trashed, my passport seized and two PCs, two tablets and my phone taken,’ he said.

‘I was denied a shave, shower, food. I was stripped of any dignity to appear in court without looking like a dishevelled hobo that I am not.’

He accused ‘nameless Twitter trolls’ of ‘fanning the flames’ and making death threats against him, and went on: ‘For the Met to bow to social media rows - it is not only foolish of them but I will be making a complaint against them and damages for trashing my flat, taking all my electronic stuff from my flat and forcing me to leave London.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3511038/I-ll-sue-says-man-wrongly-charged-stirring-race-hate-abusive-tweet-confronting-Muslim-woman-Brussels-attacks.html#ixzz44BdKPjeP
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby manfred » Mon Mar 28, 2016 11:24 am

Even if he does get compensation the message is clear. You say or do anything politically incorrect involving a Muslim, and you can expect nasty repercussions, even if they are not in line with the law. And no, it will not always be Muslims who are the cause of such consequences, our dhimmi police force will do it for them.

When the KKK murders someone, it would not be considered unreasonable to question members of the clan about it, to elicit their views on the issue. But Muslims are the golden children in the UK who cannot be inconvenienced. We may not even suggest that something like the events in Brussels is linked to the ideology of Islam, much less making Muslims take responsibility for their ideology and its consequences on the world.

I mean, after WWII, knows members of the Nazi party were removed from public offices, also from teaching and judicial posts and many other position of power. OK, not all of them, but whenever there was enough evidence. Not all of these people committed crimes, but all supported those who did.

So how come we cannot say that Muslims, who subscribe to the same views as the "terrorists", share responsibility? How come we turned our own view on justice around 180 degrees? He forced nobody to agree with him, so why can he not say what he thinks?

It is because our leaders have no spine and no common sense. Appeasement, as Churchill pointed out, is the hope the crocodile will eat you last.

At the same time the "democratic" and "free" societies sees events like the one descibed in the article above, which would be more properly look at home in North Korea, Communist East Germany, or a Nazi state. They are the tactics of a secret police.

However, the more a government treats it's own citizens as enemies, the sooner that government will utterly fail. Maybe our politically correct rulers have not studied history enough.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby pr126 » Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:30 pm

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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:29 pm

The long arm of Erdogan reaches far. Did you know that the Turkish consulate had urged Dutch Turks to report Erdogan insults , and denigrating comments made about Turks in general ?

Parliament MPs have raised questions about what they are calling unwanted interference in Dutch affairs.
Initially the Turkish embassy declined to comment, saying merely that it had seen an increase in hate messages.

But after the story had prompted an outcry in the Netherlands, the embassy said there had been a misunderstanding. It said a consulate employee had used an unfortunate choice of words in its message sent to Turkish groups in the Netherlands. Apparently the consulate had only asked to hear about racist statements and hate campaigns.

The Turkish consulate's offending email
To the relevant person,

We ask urgently for the names and written comments of people who have given derogatory, disparaging, hateful and defamatory statements against the Turkish president, Turkey and Turkish society in general, which have reached the members and relatives of your non-governmental organisations or fellow citizens from your surroundings via their social media addresses (such as Twitter or Facebook) or via the official address and e-mail addresses of your non-governmental organisation, to be sent in before the close of business on 21 April 2016 by email to the consulate general in Rotterdam
Yours sincerely..."
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby manfred » Sat Apr 23, 2016 4:41 pm

When I first read about the song and dance about some silly poem in Germany, my initial reaction was, Erdogan is not "insulted" at all, he is pleased as punch for the free opportunity to exercise control in Germany. The more fuss he can make the more he can milk it for. Your news from Holland seems to confirm this.

He is looking for reasons to be offended, just as Mohammed did.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:56 am

manfred wrote:He is looking for reasons to be offended, just as Mohammed did.


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Words...and deeds.
The Sultan is very much hurt. .

Thanks to the letter of the Turkish embassy to the Turks to betray people, a Dutch Turkish journalists has been detained in Turkey for questioning over a tweet she posted about President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

She was lifted of her bed on Saturday evening in her house in Turkey. The journalist tweeted that police were at her door and that she was being taken to a police station in the resort of Kusadasi.

Umar was detained as German Chancellor Angela Merkel and top EU officials were in Turkey to bolster a deal to stem the flow of migrants to Europe. The EU leaders have been accused of not speaking out against Turkey's crackdown on freedom of expression.

Ebru was reported by a Turkish idiot who wrote...@umarebru you Will Never Come back to Turkey!!!!!

Ebru told him she already was in Turkey "guess where I am right now?? 27 degrees, had my hair done, life is gooodddd"

Turkish idiot wrote back....'@umarebru well we will See ! enjoy the Last Hours i called the Police because of your Tweets Nobody can say Sommehing about our flag and pr'
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:04 pm

Netherlands: Muslims give out 15,000 free Qur’ans on King’s Day

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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby pr126 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:53 pm

It is rather unfortunate that the general public is (wilfully) ignorant of the Quran.
They really need to know and understand what Islam has in store for them.

No way they will be able to defend themselves otherwise.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Fernando » Wed Apr 27, 2016 1:20 pm

pr126 wrote:It is rather unfortunate that the general public is (wilfully) ignorant of the Quran.
They really need to know and understand what Islam has in store for them.

No way they will be able to defend themselves otherwise.
I don't think it matters much if people know nothing of the theology of Islam - what they need to know about is the political demand for world domination at any cost. A small pamphlet would be enough for that.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Thu May 05, 2016 12:52 pm

Today it is Liberation Day in Holland. Thank you members of the armed forces who have died for our freedom

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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Thu May 05, 2016 11:47 pm

This idiot belongs to the Dutch. :( He is the first one in the EU who dares to say that "Europe must accept Diversity or face War": No more Nation States



Frans Timmermans, a Dutch diplomat and Vice-President of the European Commission, urged all members of the EU parliament to increase efforts to "erase single, monocultural nation states" and accelerate the process in which "every single nation on earth must eventually become diverse". During his speech in the EU Fundamental Rights Colloquium 2015 he put special emphasis on the importance of "not allowing even the remotest places on the planet to exist without diversity".

The future of humanity, so he says, no longer belongs to individual nations and cultures, but rather a mixed super-culture. Contemporary conservatives, who value their own traditions and want a peaceful future for their own communities, value a "past that never existed" and can therefore not dictate the future. Timmermans therefore implies that European culture and heritage are nothing but social constructs and anybody who says otherwise is narrow-minded. He concludes his speech by stating that Europe has always been a continent of migrants and European values inherently mean accepting diversity.

He expresses concerns that if EU does not increase efforts to ensure diversity gets to every single spot on Earth as fast as possible, the peace in Europe will be at stake.

The means to achieve this are, of course, large scale, illegal mass immigration of Muslim men into Europe; the efforts to "ensure no country can escape from inevitable diversity" imply forcing immigrants onto the very last, I quote, "remotest places on the Planet" to ensure that there are no homogeneous societies left anywhere.

It is very unusual to hear a EU politician speak his intentions so clearly.
It appears that he no longer feels the need to hide the fact that "diversity" means nothing less than chasing down the last remaining Europeans on Earth and flooding their neighborhoods with foreigners.

If this man were an authentic ethnopluralist and his intention would be true diversity, he would support the protection of every people in their own respective cultures rather than flooding Europe with hostile immigrants, because right now birth rates are so low and immigration levels so high that the very existence of all European peoples is at stake.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Hombre » Fri May 06, 2016 1:18 am

Ariel wrote:Netherlands: Muslims give out 15,000 free Qur’ans on King’s Day

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Most people there most likely will read the white stuff instead the black ones. :roll:
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Postby Hombre » Fri May 06, 2016 1:20 am

Ariel wrote:Today it is Liberation Day in Holland. Thank you members of the armed forces who have died for our freedom

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A picture worth 1000 words. excellent post ariel
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Fernando » Fri May 06, 2016 11:33 am

Ariel wrote:This idiot belongs to the Dutch. :( He is the first one in the EU who dares to say that "Europe must accept Diversity or face War": No more Nation States
Doesn't the moron realise that the world's biggest engine AGAINST diversity is Islam? To paraphrase Henry Ford, you can be any colour you like - as long as you're a Muslim.
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Re: Islam in The Netherlands

Postby Ariel » Mon May 09, 2016 3:23 pm

The mosque in the West of Amsterdam is now complete, and our new Dutch and also European Leader and President, Recep Tayyip Erdogan Image, will be present at the official opening ceremony. AllahAckbar... :musilmah:

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Turkey has announced that the country’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, will be present at the official opening ceremony of a controversial new mosque in the Netherlands at which 2,500 people will be praying.

The development of the ‘Westermoskee’ mosque has been, since the 1990s, beset by difficulties as a result of “planning problems, alleged corruption scandals, local residential opposition and anti-Islamic sentiment”, Al Jazeera has reported.

But the mosque in the West of Amsterdam is now complete, with its design modelled on the famous Hagia Sophia – a Greek Orthodox Cathedral in Byzantine-era Constantinople, now Istanbul.

The Telegraph.nl reports that the “huge 25 meter high dome and 42-meter high minaret” dominate the skyline next to a canal in the western part of town. The entrance has “nine smaller domes” and the interior is set to be decorated by Islamic calligraphy artists from Turkey.

“We have the largest mosque in Amsterdam and the most beautiful mosque of Europe,” boasts organiser Selami Yuksel.

The real Hagia Sophia, now a museum, became a mosque after the Ottoman Turks’ violent conquest over Christian civilisation.

The Turkish community-planned mosque in Amsterdam comes amidst growing concern from some political commentators of President Erdogan wanting to establish a new Ottoman Empire in Europe.

Even Britain’s political establishment are alive to the fact that Mr. Erdogan has quickly become one of the most powerful men in Europe, despite his country mostly being in the Middle East, and not inside the European Union.

The planned mosque also gives an insight into the mindset of Turkey, and that of the West. While academics and the media ensure Westerners are instilled with a sense of guilt over past conquests of Europeans, there is no such parallel in the Muslim world.

On the 562nd anniversary of the Ottoman Turks’ conquest over the Byzantine civilisation, thousands of Turks arrived at Istanbul’s famous Hagia Sophia to pray in protest. Demanding that the UNESCO World Heritage site be de-secularised and turned back into a mosque, the crowds chanted slogans like “Chains to be broken, Aya Sofya (Hagia Sophia) to be opened” and “Come with your prayer mat.”

The European Union’s (EU) recent migrant deal with Turkey will see accession talks to the political-economic bloc, which has free movement of people among member states, speeded up for the country.

If Turkey joined the EU, its 75 million inhabitants would bestow the second-largest number of representatives into the European Parliament, surpassing Germany by 2020. The country’s fast-growing population is widely projected to exceed 90 million by 2023.

Mr. Erdogan’s visit to the Westermoskee is set to take place around the Muslim month of Ramadan which will fall between June and July this year.

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