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Dutch don’t have to bring back IS children from Syrian camps: appeal court

The cabinet has won its appeal against a court ruling ordering the Netherlands to do all it can to bring back IS children from Syrian prison camps. Appeal court judges said in an emergency ruling on Friday afternoon that the state does not have to make maximum effort to repatriate 56 children because it is a political issue.

The government will not actively try to bring Dutch nationals back because, ministers say, it is too dangerous for civil servants to make the trip. Prime minister Mark Rutte said at his weekly cabinet meeting he was pleased with the ruling, but declined to go into details.

Judges in The Hague said earlier this month the Netherlands must ‘make all possible efforts’ to repatriate some 56 Dutch children in refugee camps in Northern Syria, but is not required to bring back their mothers unless that is unavoidable.

The children ‘did not opt ​​for the caliphate, but now they have to deal with torture, abuse and lack of facilities’ the court said in its ruling, giving the Netherlands two weeks to make progress on the issue.

The US ambassador to the Netherlands, Pete Hoekstra, has said several times the US is willing to help bring the children, and their mothers, back to the Netherlands. The issue has divided the cabinet and both minister’s parties – the VVD and CDA – are opposed to bringing the children, most of whom are under the age of 6, back.
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Two men arrested for plotting terror attack, will appear in court on Thursday

Two men will appear in court on Thursday charged with preparing a terrorist attack, the public prosecution department has confirmed. One man, aged 20 was arrested at his home in Zoetermeer on Monday by heavily armed police officers.

The second man, also from Zoetermeer and aged 34, was arrested on a public street in The Hague.

Both were picked up following a tip-off by the security services that an attack was being planned.

The prosecution department suspects the men of plotting to use suicide bomb belts and car bombs in the attacks, which were set to take place at the end of the year.

No targets have been identified and no explosives or guns were found during searches of their homes. ‘We have serious suspicions they were preparing to carry out a terrorist attack but were still in the planning phase,’ the public prosecutor said.

An axe, a dagger and a mobile phone with multiple sim cards was found in a secret ceiling compartment in one home.

The mother of the 20-year-old told local broadcaster Omroep West that she could not believe her son would be involved in such a thing. ‘He is religious but he is not an extremist,’ she said.

The 20-year-old is Dutch, with Iranian roots, and the older man has Iranian nationality, Omroep West said.
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Not for the first time. Those young Turkish and Moroccan boys are a pest. They are responsible for many problems in Gorkum and other towns.
NETHERLANDS: Young Turkish and Moroccan Muslim migrant gangs hunt down and beat up Dutch white boys

After a series of horrific racist attacks by Muslim child migrant gangs, the city of Gorkum in the Netherlands is now under high alert. These attacks on Dutch children, which occurred in the Gijsbert van Andel park, were captured on videos filmed by the migrants themselves and posted online, have spread through social media, showing up to twelve of the young Muslim thugs beating and kicking several white Dutch children.

Mainstream Dutch TV news program, EénVandaag, reported on the Muslim gang attacks (though they never refer to them as Muslims, preferring to describe them as “young boys with a migration background.” This program not only whitewashed the problem, but they also seemed more outraged that the attacks were shared on social media than they were disturbed by the actual attacks themselves. Neither the police nor the media mentioned the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
Two Dutch conservative political leaders, Thierry Baudet and Geert Wilders boldly address the attacks, condemning the dangerous effects of Muslim immigration, as well as the complicit media and leaders in the Netherlands.
Dutch Politician, Thierry Baudet bodly condemned the racist migrant attacks in Gorkum in the Tweede Kamer (Netherland’s House of Representatives) and in the national media;

What this is about is that large groups of youths of immigration background, Moroccans, Turks, who take pleasure in hunting down white youths, beating them up, also other people, such as people with a homosexual orientation, of Jewish background; those are the minorities who are really in danger in our society nowadays. It’s getting less safe, and people won’t face up to this.
After a series of horrific racist attacks by Muslim child migrant gangs, the city of Gorkum in the Netherlands is now under high alert. These attacks on Dutch children, which occurred in the Gijsbert van Andel park, were captured on videos filmed by the migrants themselves and posted online, have spread through social media, showing up to twelve of the young Muslim thugs beating and kicking several white Dutch children.

RAIR Foundation Mainstream Dutch TV news program, EénVandaag, reported on the Muslim gang attacks (though they never refer to them as Muslims, preferring to describe them as “young boys with a migration background.” This program not only whitewashed the problem, but they also seemed more outraged that the attacks were shared on social media than they were disturbed by the actual attacks themselves. Neither the police nor the media mentioned the ethnicity of the perpetrators.


Two Dutch conservative political leaders, Thierry Baudet and Geert Wilders boldly address the attacks, condemning the dangerous effects of Muslim immigration, as well as the complicit media and leaders in the Netherlands.
Dutch Politician, Thierry Baudet bodly condemned the racist migrant attacks in Gorkum in the Tweede Kamer (Netherland’s House of Representatives) and in the national media;

What this is about is that large groups of youths of immigration background, Moroccans, Turks, who take pleasure in hunting down white youths, beating them up, also other people, such as people with a homosexual orientation, of Jewish background; those are the minorities who are really in danger in our society nowadays. It’s getting less safe, and people won’t face up to this.

Dutch MP Geert Wilders, the Donald Trump of the Netherlands and his political party, PVV (Party for Freedom), released a powerful video addressing Gorkum. Wilders strongly condemned the racist attacks against the white native Dutch children and issued a powerful call to action.
  • Arrest these scum! Throw them in prison! And if they have dual nationality, then we’ll throw them out of the country, after they have served their sentence. Together with their families. Get out of here! They don’t belong here. The same way the multicultural society’s racist violence against white Dutch people doesn’t belong here.
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It was a strange day. Stabbing in London. Stabbing in The Hague , problems at Gare du Nord Paris...
The Hague stabbing: Three children stabbed as 'knifeman attacks shoppers in city street'

An attacker was on the loose after three people were stabbed in The Hague, the Netherlands which was packed with shoppers for Black Friday

A knifeman was on the loose after three children were stabbed at a department store in the centre of a busy shopping district.

Dutch media are reporting a major emergency services presence in The Hague, the Netherlands, and videos posted on social media show a cordon in place.

This comes after two people were killed in a knife attack on London Bridge earlier today.

At 8.53pm, pictures circulating on Twitter showed police apprehended a man and placed him in handcuffs.

A picture shows multiple police officers restraining a man on the floor on the edge of the cordon. And witnesses report a knife has been secured by police.

We are at this moment searching for a suspect, no one has been arrested yet,” police spokeswoman Marije Kuiper told reporters at 10 p.m.

Kuiper said police did not yet have a description of the suspect, but she said an initial police statement that he was a man in his 40s of North African descent had been wrong.

“At this moment all scenarios are still open,” she said.

It is not yet clear if the stabbing was a terror incident.

National broadcaster NOS said the attack could not immediately be attributed to terrorism.

NOS, quoting "varied sources", said: "At this moment there is no indication of a terrorist motive."
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Netherlands: Number of Moroccans applying for asylum approaches record high

The number of Moroccans that have applied for asylum in the Netherlands this year is quickly approaching the 2016 record, new figures have revealed.

Statistics from the Immigration and Naturalization Service (IND) have revealed that there were 1032 asylum requests by Moroccans in the first nine months of 2019, compared to 803 in the same period last year, Dutch morning newspaper De Telegraaf reports.

If Moroccans continue to apply for asylum at the same rate that’s been seen so far this year, the Netherlands will see as many or more asylum requests from this group than were seen in 2016, when 1283 Moroccans applied for asylum.

To put things in perspective, 2015 saw just 90 Moroccans apply for asylum, while the year before saw 65.

Last week, Morocco’s ambassador canceled another meeting with State Secretary Broekers-Knol where the two had planned to discussed the North African country taking back failed asylum seekers. Historically, Morocco has been reluctant to take back their failed asylum seekers, but the Dutch government’s political will to remove them has increased recently.

“The apparent abuse of the asylum procedure by criminal, nuisance and hopeless asylum seekers further underlines that the asylum system is bankrupt,” immigration researcher Jan van de Beek, said.

“Asylum seekers come in and then they have to find out afterward whether they are entitled to stay. That results in long procedures and high costs,” he added.

“If, after those long procedures, the conclusion is that one should not stay, it is also noticeably difficult to deport.”
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Farmers attach "NOS News is fake news!" stickers to NOS journalist
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:lol: The NOS is just as unreliable and fake as some newspapers in America or England.

If you want the real news..Twitter is the place to be nowadays.
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As Dutch Churches Close, Parishioners Abandon Faith

By Paul Murano • ChurchMilitant.com • January 10, 2020

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More young Catholics bucking de-Christianization trend

AMSTERDAM (ChurchMilitant.com) - The Church in the Netherlands is going through a transformation at best, and a decline at worst.

Since the social and sexual revolution of the 1960s, Church attendance and participation has been declining across the West. But as parishes consolidate in the Netherlands, parishioners are not responding as some have predicted.

The Dutch Catholic weekly publication Katholiek Nieuwsblad has concluded that villagers in the Dutch countryside, where churches are now closing at a rapid rate, would rather leave the Faith than go bother with registering at another parish.

Further, the decline in church attendance has not yet reached its lowest point in the Netherlands; the big wave of church closures is yet to come. The willingness of people to attend Mass at another parish nearby is low. The phenomenon is cyclical: As people leave the Faith, Catholic churches close; as more churches close, more people leave the Faith.

Currently, Catholicism is the single largest religion of the Netherlands, with adherents making up 24% of the Dutch population in 2015 — down from 40% in the 1960s.

According to the Church itself, formal membership was 22.4% of the Dutch population in 2016. But according to Hugo Bos, founder of Tradition, Family and Property affiliate Stichting Civitas Christiana, these numbers are deceiving.

Bos told Church Militant that though a majority of the nation is Catholic, "about 3% of the faithful attends Mass … and 1% a Word and Communion service. Of the 153,000 going to Mass, the majority is old or very old. Much more than half of them will no longer be around in say 10 or 20 years (if not five)."

Paul van Geest, professor of Church History and History of Theology at Tilburg University, argues that this doesn't mean the Catholic Church in the Netherlands is on the cusp of failure. Van Geest suggests Christianity has always taken on new forms.

"I strongly disagree with this [idea that] that the Catholic Church in the Netherlands is on its last legs," said Bos. "Van Geest points out that 'Christianity always takes on new forms.' There is not a different form of Christianity arising, but people replace Christianity by all kinds of 'spirituality,' like Yoga, meditation and so on."

According to the Dutch research institute KASKI, the number of people who call themselves Catholic has fallen by 20% in the last 15 years alone, while the number of churchgoers at weekend services has dropped by 60%, and the number of parishes by 55%. About one in five Dutch people (3.7 million) still see themselves as Catholic; however, less than 5% of them (153,800 people) regularly attend Mass.

Bos also cited an irony, uncovered in a recent study of Dutch Catholics: Young churchgoers' belief in the existence of God is higher than among older churchgoers.

"Nearly half of churchgoers between the ages of 17 and 30 describe themselves as 'very religious.' By way of comparison: 20 years ago, only one in five in that age group described themselves this way," said Bos. "To statements like 'the Bible is the word of God,' 'there is an afterlife,' 'the devil exists' and 'there is Heaven and Hell,' the children of baby boomers increasingly answer yes."
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Those empty churches will become mosques in time.

On a related subject, the left want to eliminate Christianity.
Christianity is constantly criticized, but not Islam. Draw your own conclusions.

Why does the left want Christianity to disappear?

Religion is first and foremost is a cohesive force. (see Islam as an example).

The identity politics are designed to set as many groups as possible to against each other.
The left is fomenting hate, division.

Fragmented societes are easier to control. And control is what the left wants.
The Globalists dream is to rule the planet.

Islam for them are the shock troups to spread more fear and disarray.

The left (Marxist) and Muslims have a common goal. The destroy western civilisation.

Ultimately they will have to fight each other for supremacy.
Who will win? Either way it will be a losing endgame.
Distopia for everyone who survives.
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pr126 wrote:Those empty churches will become mosques in time.
I agree with your post PR.

And many empty churches in Holland are already mosques. The churches who already changed into mosques were all protestant churches. It seems that the Catholic church does not want to sell their churches to moslims.

And fortunately it seems the protestants are waking up, they are not longer that keen to make a mosque of a church.

This is the last church ( under much protest) they sold to muslims . The Thomaskerk in The Hague . It is now a mosque

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Great news from Holland. The Netherlands , a small dot on this earth is going to save the climate :clap:

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Survey: 65 percent of Dutch citizens want less immigration

By EVA JANSSEN

A new survey has revealed that an overwhelming majority of Dutch citizens think that present immigration levels need to be curbed.

According to representative research conducted by Kantar and commissioned by De Telegraaf, nearly two-thirds (65 percent) of Dutch citizens believe that immigration must be limited. The survey also revealed that close to one half (48 percent) of Dutch citizens with non-Western backgrounds hold the same view, De Telegraaf reports.

The Central Bureau of Statistics projects that in the coming years the Dutch population will grow from about 17 million to 18 million in 2024, before reaching 19 million in as 2039. The force behind the expected population growth is immigration.

Each year 82,000 migrants flood into the country every year. In 2019, the Dutch population grow by roughly 132,000. Of that number,114,000 were migrants and 16,000 were asylum seekers. Half of the newcomers came from outside of Europe.

A significant portion of Dutch society fears that’s this kind of population growth could result in significant problems in the country’s’ healthcare and housing sectors. According to the survey, even more Dutch citizens (91%) think there’s barely any room left in the country for more people.

Between 2014 and 2018, the Dutch government granted a total of 122,000 residence permits to “asylum seekers”.

In December of last year, Voice of Europe reported that the number of Moroccans who applied for asylum in the Netherlands in 2019 approached the 2016 record, and there’s no war in Morocco.

Responding to the trend of abuse, immigration researcher Jan van de Beek said: “The apparent abuse of the asylum procedure by criminal, nuisance and hopeless asylum seekers further underlines that the asylum system is bankrupt.
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Local politicians call for ban on teenagers carrying knives
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Two local mayors have called for under-18s to be banned from carrying knives following a spate of stabbings involving teenagers.

The mayors of Nissewaard and Ridderkerk, both in Zuid-Holland province, said the law should be changed to make it clear knife crime is socially unacceptable. ‘We think this is the right time to send out a signal to national politicians,’ said Nissewaard mayor Foort van Oosten.

Van Oosten said a number of incidents nationwide, such as the fatal stabbing of a 16-year-old boy in Drachten for which two boys aged 14 and 15 were arrested, demonstrate the need for a more hands-on approach.

The mayors say changing the law would allow police to carry out preventive searches in areas where knife crime is common. Some types of knife are already banned, while others can be carried as long as they are contained in protective packaging.

A majority of MPs have expressed support for tightening the law on bladed weapons, but justice minister Ferdinand Grapperhaus said the solution lay in better preventive measures. ‘You can go out into the streets with a vegetable knife and act in a completely unacceptable way and stab somebody,’ he said. ‘We also need to look at how dangerous situations can be prevented in certain areas.’
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And two days ago, very late in the evening, the police stopped a 16 years old boy. He carried with him a stanley knife and a butcher's chopper.

The boy said, the stanley knife he needed for school, and the butcher's chopper was because he liked cooking.

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Netherlands: Migrants kick elderly Dutchman off his bicycle, film it and laugh hysterically

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A disturbing video clip that shows a pair of migrants kicking an elderly Dutchman off of his bicycle as they ride by on their motorbike has sparked widespread outrage on social media.

The cowardly crime took place last Sunday in IJdoornlaan in the north Amsterdam metropolitan area. The video footage depicts the two migrants coming from behind the unsuspecting elderly man as he rides his bicycle along the path before they kick him off, sending him plummeting to the pavement, local Amsterdam television station AT5 reports.

While speeding off on their motorbike, the two laugh hysterically and turn the video camera around so as to capture the old man’s awful fall.

According to Algemeen Dagblad, one of the perpetrators has been identified as Rody Breinburg. He has since turned himself in to police after the video went viral.
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Netherlands: Turks are being fed anti-Western propaganda by Turkish govt organizations, professor warns

Turkish immigrants are being subjected to anti-Western propaganda in western nations like the Netherlands, according to Turkish Professor of Cultural Studies Erik-Jan Zürcher.

According to Zürcher, Turks living in the Netherlands are being inundated with anti-Western propaganda which seeks to persuade them to have negative feelings against Western governments and institutions, Dutch daily newspaper Het Parool reports.

The Netherlands is home to many different mosques which are connected to and financed by various Turkish government organizations, one of which is called Diyanet. Diaynet is an Islamic organization that finances the construction of mosques and supplies Imams and religious leaders for mosques operating throughout the Netherlands and in other Western European countries.

The main focus of these Turkish government organizations is unity & religion – but not unity with the Dutch state or Christianity. Diyanet and other Turkish government organizations that are similar to it attempt to persuade Turkish citizens around world that Western countries do not want them, and that they should refrain from integrating into Western culture and society, and “stay true” to their own Islamic cultural values and belief system instead.

Earlier this month, Dutch officials stated that Turkish immigrants will be required by law to take an inburgerinscursus – a program designed to help newly arrived immigrants to adapt and integrate into the Netherlands. The Dutch parliament’s adoption of the law has caused widespread controversy among those with Turkish backgrounds who live in the Netherlands.

In the Netherlands, similarly to elsewhere in Western Europe, there’s growing tension between the native Europeans and those with Turkish or Islamic backgrounds because more often than not the immigrants do not want to integrate into Dutch or European society, but would rather maintain their fundamentalist, Islamic religion and sponge of the Netherland’s generous social welfare system.
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The corona crisis may have closed down the Keukenhof flower garden near Lisse but the park is making good on its promise to bring the gardens to the public.

The Keukenhof, which should have opened on March 21 and close again on May 10, attracts some million visitors from all over the globe each year.

However, government rules banning events up to June 1 mean the garden must keep its gates closed. But with or without visitors, the park was ready to burst into colour – Keukenhof gardeners had already planted some seven million bulbs for this year’s display. The latest virtual visit to the garden shows tulips in in full bloom under a blue spring sky.

The park has promised further updates will follow.



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The premier of Portugal, big spender of European subsidy, suggest that Holland - for 25 years the biggest sponsor of the EU - per head of the population - shall be removed from the EU because NL is not enthusiastic about spending more money to Brussells and Portugal.

INTERESTING :sly:

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Could the EU kick out the Dutch? Stunning threat in Brussels backlash against Netherlands

A GROWING row inside the European Union has led one member-state leader to question whether the Netherlands are "truly committed" to the Brussels-led project, hinting that the Dutch should "be left out" of EU deals.

Portugal's Prime Minister Antonio Costa has stunned fellow EU leaders after raising the idea of leaving the Netherlands out of EU agreements. The astonishing remarks implies that the Netherlands could be kicked out of the European Union, amid growing outrage at the coutnry's conduct in the latest coronavirus response talks. The Netherlands held up the talks after blocking demands from Italy, Spain and France for so-called 'corona-bonds' where the EU would issue joint shared debt to help finance a recovery.

Mr Costa spoke after the EU reached an agreement for a £430bn rescue package for countries hit hardest by the pandemic.

He said the Netherlands’ attempt to block economic support to fight the coronavirus raised questions about their future in the European Union.

The Portuguese leader said: "If under these conditions it’s not possible for Europe to ensure a common response to this challenge, this is a sign of great concern for those who believe in Europe."

Mr Costa went on to question whether “there is anyone who wants to be left out” of the EU or eurozone.

He added: “Naturally, I’m referring to the Netherlands.

“There is at least one country in the euro zone that resists understanding that sharing a common currency implies sharing a common effort."

Following the EU deal, Dutch Finance Minister Wopke Hoekstra boasted that his side had won the argument, saying the Netherlands is and “will remain opposed to eurobonds”.

At the virtual summit, EU ministers rejected the demand to share out the cost of the crisis by issuing corona-bonds.

Mr Hoekstra said he was “very satisfied” with the outcome on the talks, tweeting that “there won’t be any eurobonds” and telling Dutch TV stations “sometimes you have to put your foot down.”

He said he feared that corona-bonds would enable rampant, uncontrolled spending in southern European countries hardest hit by COVID-19, the cost of which northern countries would be required to share.

However, Italian Prime Minister Guisepe Conte has again warned he could refuse to sign off on the final deal until there were what he described as "adequate measures" on the table - likely a reference to coronavirus bonds.

Mr Conte described the 500 billion euro deal which the ministers unveiled as "still insufficient".

The French Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire hailed the agreement as the most important economic plan in EU history.

It is not the first time Portuguese Prime Minister Antonio Costa has exchanged furious insults with his Dutch counterparts.

Last month, Mr Costa called the Netherlands "repugnant" for their refusal to compromise with EU member-states.
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To my knowledge there is no mechanism to throw out any member of the EU. There are sanctions though, involving fines and loss of voting rights. The proposed bonds place an undefined financial risk on member states, mostly the richer ones. If you give aid, you decide when and how much. This bond is like and blank cheque payable on demand. Not surprised people in the Netherlands are not too keen on it.

It does not mean the Dutch don;t care about the suffering of others, it merely means they don't want to put a huge vacuum cleaner into their treasury and give Mrs van der Leyen the switch to turn it on whenever she wants.
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manfred wrote:
It does not mean the Dutch don;t care about the suffering of others, it merely means they don't want to put a huge vacuum cleaner into their treasury and give Mrs van der Leyen the switch to turn it on whenever she wants.
Hoekstra said..“We are willing to help you put out the fire, but we don’t want to take over your mortgage,” Perhaps Hoekstra was not very diplomatic,but he has a “fair point”.
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Netherlands: Foreigners attack and spit on gay couple in Amsterdam

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A gay couple walking hand-in-hand in Amsterdam were harassed, attacked, and spit on by a group of foreigners on Monday. Photos and video footage of the incident have surfaced on social media.

During the ordeal, the two victims contacted the police and recorded video from their mobile phones. Although the hoodlums fled the scene when police officers arrived, two of them came back later and spat on the couple, Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf reports

“Faggots! Gays not normal! You are cancer homos,” one of the immigrants can be heard saying while he proudly films himself harassing the two men.

The migrant youth can also be heard repeatedly shouting that in Amsterdam gays are not normal. The same migrant, together with one of his pals, is reported to have spat on the couple

The Amsterdam police are now investigating the incident.

“We have also seen the images ourselves and take it very seriously,” said a spokeswoman for the police. “Normally it takes a while before you can report a so-called ‘complaint offense’. The declaration process has now been accelerated. This means that a declaration can already be made this afternoon.”

The virulent anti-gay sentiment that’s now widespread throughout Europe is something that has been imported into the continent by so-called ‘elites’. The problem is particularly bad in multicultural France.

Last spring, a 21-year-old Tunisian migrant was arrested after he attacked a homosexual man, stabbing him to death and disemboweling his friend outside of Paris.

In the same month, two teenagers were brought in front of a French court after they were accused of using the gay dating app Grindr to lure gay men to an area where they would then beat and rob them.

In another case that happened only just a few months prior, two radical Islamic extremists were arrested for planning to carry out terror attacks against homosexuals using the same dating app, Le Parisien reported.
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