News from The Netherlands

[Ariel]

What not is mentioned in this article is dat if the family has more then two kids , they will get almost 13000 euros, and that the residents of this village had to pay 2.9% more tax this year.

Outrage as Dutch authorities give up to €10k to refugees to ‘go shopping’

Some Dutch residents are outraged after finding out that a few cities have been offering as much as €10,000 to refugees to buy furniture and other necessities, local media reported.

Asylum seekers who get allocated to certain towns in the Netherlands may get as much as €10,000 to buy furniture for their homes, according to research carried out by the daily Brabants Dagblad (BD).

Talking to the local authorities, Brabants Dagblad found the sum of money varies in different municipalities.

While Oisterwijk, South Netherlands offers as much as €10,602 for a family with two children, in other cities, such as Bernheze, Schijndel Veghel and Sint-Michielsgestel the same family may receive around €3,500. Boekel offers the smallest amount of €2,200.

BD also said that some cities require refugees to pay the sum back, while others, such as the most generous Oisterwijk consider the money “a gift."

Leader of the right-wing populist Party for Freedom (PVV), Geert Wilders said the whole situation is “discrimination” against Dutch residents, urging Dutch Deputy Prime Minister Lodewijk Asscher and the public prosecutor to address the issue.

“Hey Asscher and Public Prosecutor, why don’t you address this discrimination? For a ‘refugee’ but not for the Dutch?” he tweeted.

On social media many slammed the government calling its decision “ridiculous” and “idiotic."

“What a terrible signal to those people ... free this free that,” one user said on Twitter.

Oisterwijk in particular faced criticism for “playing Santa Claus” to refugees while some of its residents are living below the poverty line, according to comments.

The BD report cited several charities as saying that €2,000 were a reasonable sum for a family to get on its feet in the Netherlands. An IKEA spokesman estimated that with €10,000 euros one could buy plenty of nice furniture at the shop.

[M85]

I just noticed this article. I wonder how likely a "Nexit" vote may occur?

EU FALLING APART: Now HOLLAND wants its own referendum to follow historic Brexit vote
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/677 ... exit-Nexit

NINE out of 10 Dutch people hope the Netherlands will hold its own EU referendum amid mass discontent at Brussels bureaucrats.
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A whopping 88 per cent of people polled by a top Dutch newspaper said they would be in favour of an in/out vote along British lines.

They have been inspired by possibility of Britain quitting the bloc on June 23 – and hope 'Nexit' will follow Brexit.

The survey, carried out by De Telegraaf, will spark fears among Brussels chiefs that the bloc is on the verge of falling apart.
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[Ariel]

I just noticed this article. I wonder how likely a "Nexit" vote may occur?

Many Dutch people want out. But I guess they first wait for Brexit . Some here say...England has liberated us ones, and perhaps they they can liberate us for the second time...

[M85]

Many Dutch people want out. But I guess they first wait for Brexit . Some here say...England has liberated us ones, and perhaps they they can liberate us for the second time...

That makes sense that they are certainly watching the Brexit vote. I suspect whether there is a vote for Nexit would likely only occur if Britain actually drops the EU.

[Ariel]

Dutch woman held in Qatar on adultery charges after reporting she was raped.

A Dutch woman has been held in Qatar since March after being accused of adultery when she reported she had been raped.

The 22-year-old woman, who was on holiday in Qatar, told authorities she had been drinking at a hotel and returned from the dance floor to her drink, which she believes was drugged.

She said she had woken up the next morning in an unfamiliar room and realised she had had her drink spiked and had been raped, The National reported.

Her lawyer, Brian Lokollo, told NOS-Radio1: “She went dancing, but when she returned to the table after the first sip of her drink, she realised that [it had been drugged].She felt very unwell.”

A man was arrested in connection with the rape allegation but told police the pair had consensual sex and the woman had asked for money in return, prompting police to arrest the woman on suspicion of adultery.

The woman has denied these allegations a spokesperson from the Dutch Embassy in Qatar confirmed, adding that the authorities in Qatar have kept in regular contact with the woman as the case continues to be investigated.

However, the woman has reportedly not been allowed to leave the country while the allegations are being looked into.

It is not yet clear when the woman will be allowed to return to her home from Qatar, with a court hearing set for 13 June likely to determine whether or not the woman will be charged with adultery.

This is Laura with her mother. I fear this lady does not make a chance. She will go to prison. Two years ago Laura converted to Islam, and they know in Qatar she is a muslima. The man is a Muslim from Syria.

The sharia court, according to the same regulations, has full jurisdiction in all civil and criminal disputes over Qatar’s nationals and Muslims from other countries.

The Quran does not mention rape. It severely prohibits Zina that means sexual relation between a man and woman not married to each other. It can be translated as “adultery” for married persons and “fornication” for the unmarried. Muslim jurists included rape under Zina because, even though forced on the victim, sexual relations “between a man and woman not married to each other” have taken place.

[dewanand]

islam is a totally sexualized religion.

women are only sex objects in islam and now I use different models to analyse this problem.

But most men only see women like holes they want to screw, all over the world this is the same pattern.

I want to know who created me and why I was born, who made the real decision to make me???

I live in Holland, delft city, and to be honest:

I am all alone in the world, no hindu family more, no wife, divorced, no childern, mentally sick, use medication, half century old,
yes my life is totally empty. Nothing to live for, other hindus discriminate me.

whole dutch society is death or sick now. Majority of white Dutchman don't care about family, or having children, they are all bisexual and they have no culture and norms anymore.

White dutch people take dogs and cats instead of raising white children.

that's why the demographic islamisation is a hard fact and no one cares anymore in holland.

oh it is all karma, Holland will become part of the Islamic Caliphate within 18.1888 years time.

[Ariel]

'Who the f**k are all you racists?': Violent Turkish migrants FILM THEMSELVES beating up a cyclist, dancing on police cars and intimidating officers

A group of violent Turkish migrants have filmed themselves 'terrorising a neighbourhood' and bragging about their behaviour online.

The group, from Zaandam in the Netherlands, are said to have been intimidating police officers, jumping on police cars and beating up a bicyclist.



The group's 19-year-old leader Ismail Ilgun was arrested this morning, according to Telegraaf.

In his latest video, Ilgun said: 'Who the f*** are all you racists?

'I am an Erdogan warrior, a Turk who will remain in the Netherlands and who will earn a lot of money by making videos without working for it.'

Even Dutch PM Mark Rutte, 49, felt the need to respond to the local crisis in Zaandam.

'He stood right in front of me in a very threatening way. From the car they shouted something like "We know where to find you."'

She said her house had been bombarded with eggs and at times they were waiting for her on the pavement.

Some of Rot's colleagues took the side of the migrant group.

Local Socialist Party leader Patrick Zoomermeijer said the youngsters were 'unpolished diamonds'.
The group appeared on a primetime talk show sparking a nationwide debate.

They blamed the national media for stigmatising them and told the TV programme they only hung around the streets because the city council did not give them a youth centre.

Cinderella Meijer, who works at a youth centre, explained that the group had been booted out after damaging and stealing from it.

She said: 'This has already been playing out for ten years. They get everything from the city council, everything is done.

'But each time they destroy the property and steal.'

Update . The group of 'unpolished diamonds' Turkish scum have won, because they are promised a new youth centre by the Socialist mayor .

[pr126]

They Don’t Have to do Anything

[Ariel]

Anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders has told a court that his trial for alleged hate speech is a "charade, a disgrace for the Netherlands, a mockery for our society". The charges were brought after he led a chant for fewer Moroccans in the Netherlands at a rally 18 months ago..

He did not show up at his trial, as he is of the opinion that the trial for alleged hate speech is a "charade, a disgrace for the Netherlands, a mockery for our society".

He did turn op yesterday though, and this is final statement at the trial.

"They are people who want their country back and who are sick and tired of not being listened to," he said.

"If you convict me you will convict half of the Netherlands. Many Dutch will then lose the last bit of trust in the rule of law."

Mr Wilders has repeatedly criticised Islam, calling for the Koran to be banned and for the closure of all mosques in the Netherlands.

But prosecutors say he crossed a line when he asked supporters if they wanted "fewer or more Moroccans" in the Netherlands.

After supporters chanted back "fewer", he replied: "We'll organise that."

In 2011, Mr Wilders was acquitted of incitement after being accused of encouraging hatred towards Muslims.

The Netherlands will hold a general election in March and all opinion polls suggest Mr Wilders' Freedom Party (PVV) is slightly ahead of Mark Rutte's liberal VVD.

[Fernando]

It's clearly a political show trial. I've seen one article that suggests the judges might inflict a suspended jail sentence.
Would getting a criminal record have the desired effect of stopping him being a member of parliament?

[Ariel]

Would getting a criminal record have the desired effect of stopping him being a member of parliament?

I don't think so.

[Fernando]

Would getting a criminal record have the desired effect of stopping him being a member of parliament?

I don't think so.

Thanks, that's good news.

[Fernando]

There's a full transcript of his speech on Jihad Watch.
[EDIT: as a commenter says, it's truly Churchillian. Do read it if you haven't followed Ariel's video.]
I'll quote a couple of examples.

Mr. President, the elite also facilitated the complaints against me. With pre-printed declaration forms, which were brought to the mosque by the police. In which, it has to be noted, the police sometimes said that they, too, were of the opinion that my statements were inadmissible.

And a sample taken by us showed that some complaints were the result of pure deception, intimidation and influence. People thought they were going to vote; they not even know my name, did not realize what they were signing or declared that they did not feel to be discriminated against by me at all.

Someone said that, at the As Soenah mosque, after Friday prayers alone, 1,200 complaints were lodged because it was thought to be an election. There were parades, led by mayors and aldermen, like in Nijmegen, where CDA mayor Bruls was finally able to show off his deep-seated hatred of the PVV. The police had extra opening hours, offered coffee and tea, there were dancing and singing Moroccans accompanied by a real oompah band in front of a police station. They turned it into a big party

People will never understand that other politicians — especially from government parties — and civil servants who have spoken about Moroccans, Turks and even PVV members, are being left alone and not prosecuted by the Public Prosecutor.

Like Labour leader Samsom, who said that Moroccan youths have a monopoly on ethnic nuisance.

Or Labour chairman Spekman, who said Moroccans should be humiliated.

Or Labour alderman Oudkerk, who spoke about f*cking Moroccans.

Or Prime Minister Rutte, who said that Turks should get lost.

And what about police chief Joop van Riessen, who said about me on television — I quote literally: “Basically one would feel inclined to say: let’s kill him, just get rid of him now and he will never surface again”?

And in reference to PVV voters, van Riessen declared: “Those people must be deported, they no longer belong here.” End of quote. The police chief said that killing Wilders was a normal reaction. That is hatred, Mr. President, pure hatred — and not by us, but against us. And the Public Prosecutor did not prosecute Mr. Van Riessen.

But the Public Prosecutor does prosecute me. And demands a conviction based on nonsensical arguments about race and concepts that are not even in the law. It accuses and suspects me of insulting a group and inciting hatred and discrimination on grounds of race. How much crazier can it become? Race. What race?

Finally, he concludes with

As I said:

I am standing here on behalf of millions of Dutch citizens.
I do not speak just on behalf of myself.
My voice is the voice of many.

And, so, I ask you, not only on behalf of myself, but in the name of all those Dutch citizens:

Acquit me! Acquit us!

And not just for the Dutch - he speaks for us all. Thank you Mr. Wilders.
However, after a condemnation like that they're unlikely to back down, they're more likely to throw the book at him.
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/wilders-the-elite-facilitated-complaints-against-me-with-pre-printed-forms-brought-to-the-mosque-by-police

[Ariel]

[Fernando]

Does anyone know when this kangaroo court will deign to announce its verdict and/or sentence?

[Ariel]

Soon Fernando. December the 9th. I will keep you posted.

[pr126]

Fury as watchdog says it's OK to send gay people death threats – but only if you're Muslim

FURIOUS Dutch MPs have demanded an immediate public inquiry after a government-backed watchdog said it was acceptable for Muslims to send gay people death threats.
In a shocking move, the taxpayer-funded hotline said it would not pursue a criminal complaint over horrific messages from radical Islamists because the Koran says gay people can be killed.

The disgraceful stance came to light when a member of the public complained about death threats posted to an online forum which called for homosexuals to be “burned, decapitated and slaughtered”.

Dutch MPs today reacted with horror to the revelations, demanding an immediate inquiry into the remarks and calling for the hotline to be stripped of public funding.

According to Dutch media advisors from the anti-discrimination bureau MiND said that, while homophobic abuse was usually a crime, it was justifiable if you were Muslim due to laws on freedom of religious expression.

They argued that the Koran says it is acceptable to kill people for being homosexual, and so death threats towards gay people from Muslims could not be discriminatory.

In a jaw-dropping email explaining why they could not take up the complaint, they wrote: “The remarks must be seen in the context of religious beliefs in Islam, which juridically takes away the insulting character."

They concluded that the remarks were made in "the context of a public debate about how to interpret the Quran" and added that "some Muslims understand from the Quran that gays should be killed”.

And they went on: “In the context of religious expression that exists in the Netherlands there is a large degree of freedom of expression. In addition, the expressions are used in the context of the public debate (how to interpret the Koran), which also removes the offending character."

The death threats had been made in the comments section for an article about a Dutch-Moroccan gay society, which had been posted to an online platform for Holland’s large Moroccan community.

[Ariel]

EU set for ANOTHER earthquake: Far-right Geert Wilders’ Freedom Party soars ahead in polls

DUTCH right-wing Freedom Party has soared ahead to lead the polls ahead of the parliamentary elections.

The party, led by the controversial Geert Wilders, would beat prime minister Mark Rutte’s ruling conservative liberals if elections were held today.

The Freedom Party (PVV) can count on 29 seats out of the 150-seat chamber, according to the latest IPSOS poll, making it the largest party in the Netherlands.

In the space of one month the popularity of the PVV has surged with an increase of six seats.

Pollsters said the PVV’s populist stance has attracted voters.

The data suggests Eurosceptic Mr Wilders could become the Netherlands’ next prime minister, potentially spelling the end of Dutch membership of the EU.

Frustrations have grown with the current coalition government and an ongoing court trial involving Mr Wilders has boosted his support.

The PVV founder allegedly led a chant demanding fewer Moroccans reside in the Netherlands and has been accused of inciting a hate speech after asking supporters if they wanted “fewer or more Moroccans” in the country.

When the crowd shouted “fewer”, he responded: “We’ll take care of it.”

He is currently at the centre of a court case accused of discriminating against the Dutch-Moroccan community.

Mr Wilders, who is riding a wave of populist sentiment sweeping the crumbling bloc has called for mosques and Islamic schools to be closed.

His manifesto all calls for a ban on the Koran and declared he wants “no more immigrants from Islamic countries”.

The poll comes as Mr Wilders celebrated a victory for his party in the Dutch parliament.

[manfred]

I hope he wins... Then it will be only a matter of time before the EU folds, and with it much of the "politically correct" stuff. We may end up with a Europe of individual countries each being good neighbours with all the others, but each with sovereignty and freedom to run its own affairs...

OK, maybe I am too much of an optimist...

But if Wilder and Le Pen get in, we will have a very different Europe in a very short period of time.

The EU started as a simple and good idea.... free trade between neighbours. Sadly it has become something completely different by now.

We once had freedom of speech, and much more than we have now... today the EU will even try to control the internet, as China does. It is more than a cartel, it has evolved into an all-controlling octopus despising individual people and personal freedom. It loathes votes, and often ignores the result, and the fact that the commission seems fit to hang any Brits living in the EU out to dry after Brexit without even a second thoughts about human consequences speaks volumes, and it fully justifies our Prime Minister's stance to refuse to give a guarantee to EU citizens in the UK unless the EU does the same. It is clear the only language the commission understands is the language of the jungle: you attack and you pay a price.

So, go, Netherlands, go...

[Ariel]

I also hope he will win. We have 4 polls in Holland, and he is leading in all polls. In the latest IPSOS poll he has 29 seats, in 3 other polls he has 33 and 35 seats. I hope it is not a temporary growth. In Holland virtual seats are easily gained but also easily lost if one makes a slight mistake.

Tomorrow Geert Wilders will hear the decision of the Court. If he is found guilty of hate speech or not .

I do not think Wilders will ever be a MP. He can't form a Coalition. Not many parties want to work with him.other parties motto..“They don’t represent us”.