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France: Police asked to stand down during Ramadan

A leaked internal document shows that police in the French department of Calvados have been asked to “show restraint” in dealing with migrants during Islam’s holy month of Ramadan, which began on April 23.

The document, which is dated April 24, was sent by the Director of Calvados’ Department of Public Safety to all branches of the police in the region, which is in Normandy. A copy was obtained by the French newspaper Le Parisien and reported on their website.

Police are being asked only to intervene in cases of “assaults on people,” or where there is “serious property damage” during Ramadan. The note specifies that police should not take action in “neighborhoods that have a high concentration of people during Ramadan,” such as “controlling a group of people who have gathered to eat after sunset” in violation of lockdown and social distancing measures intended to combat the spread of the coronavirus (COVID-19).

The document says that such restraint is necessary “in order to prevent a breach of the lockdown rules from degenerating and leading to an even greater incident of urban violence.”

In cases where police receive calls from concerned citizens about such incidents, police are instructed to tell people only that “their call has been taken into account,” and that officers should “take care not to comment.”

Some of France’s police unions are outraged that this document emerged at the same time that the government has been increasing the punishments for those who violate the lockdown, creating a double standard. “Contrary to what the government has stated and repeated, this note proves that the police are being instructed not to go into certain areas,” Fabien Vanhemelryck, a representative of the police union Alliance, said.

In response, France’s Chief of Police demanded explanations after the contents of the document were publicized. In a message the National Police sent to the AFP, they reassured the public that officers “will intervene anywhere to ensure the safety of people and property, whatever the circumstances.” He requested that Calvados’ Department of Public Safety provide an explanation for the document.

It is not known if similar instructions have been issued in other French departments.

French cities have been gripped by a particularly strong outbreak of street violence in recent weeks, with attacks on police and other first responders becoming commonplace, as previously reported by Voice of Europe
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French intellectual says no-go zones must be reconquered by force

Eric Zemmour, a prominent conservative intellectual and political journalist, recently argued that France’s crime ridden and drug infested ‘suburbs’ – also known as no-go zones – have become foreign enclaves and must be reconquered by force or abandoned entirely.

During a discussion segment on the French television channel CNEWS, Zemmour contends that a catastrophic situation has arisen where hostile foreign forces, most of which are Islamic, have taken over the suburbs of various cities in France and continue to wage war against law enforcement.

Zemmour, who’s also a spokesman for the police union Synergie, described an ‘asymmetrical war’ being waged by the Left-wing media against the police, who are smeared as colonizers and blamed for the violence which often takes place in these migrant enclaves.

To remedy the situation, the police union has proposed that officers also be able to film what is happening in the suburbs and “disseminate the images to show the reality of their interventions”.

“I totally agree with them. I think they should film it, show it on television, and we’d see what’s going on there. We’d see that the police are victims of years of neglect, and we’d see that [non-French residents and migrants] are the foreign power.”

Later in the segment, after one of the panel’s commentators agreed with his point that many of these so-called no-go zones are under foreign occupation, Zemmour went further, saying: “That’s the difference between you and me. I think we reconquer by force. However, in order to reconquer, there’s a problem with the number of people.”

“You think that we can bring people around by means of education. That’s something I don’t believe anymore.”

“There is a sentence from Hegel that I say all of the time: ‘The quantity become a quality,'” Zemmour concluded. “So in this case, it is necessary to reconquer by force or give up.”

For a long time now, Zemmour has warned of the dangers that migrant enclaves pose to the French state and to the public.

In March, Zemmour argued that immigrants living in France’s no-go suburbs threaten the country with chaos by refusing to abide by the government’s lockdown measures which have been put in place to fight the Wuhan coronavirus, as reported by Voice of Europe.

Since France’s nationwide lockdowns were first put in place on March 14th, police, firefighters, and other first responders have repeatedly been attacked while responding to disturbances in migrant suburbs.
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Rioting breaks out in Paris suburb after man is hit by train

Rioting broke out in the Montigny-lès-Cormeilles suburb northwest of Paris on Wednesday night after a man was hit by a train. Locals believed that he had been hit while running from the police, despite officials’ insistence that no officers were involved.

The man, 18, has only been identified as Kémyl. He was a resident of the Aubépines district of Montigny-lès-Cormeilles. He was on a scooter crossing a pedestrian walkway across the tracks when he was struck by a Paris-bound train at approximately 6:45 PM on Wednesday, according to a report by Le Parisien. The man’s body was thrown to the side while his scooter, which got caught under the train, was dragged a distance down the tracks before it came to a halt.

Emergency personnel, including police, were immediately despatched to the scene, and Kémyl was declared dead. Traffic along the line was halted until midnight. Many local residents and Kémyl’s relatives went to the area to see what had happened. Some began accusing the police of causing the accident, despite the fact that the local police department — and even eyewitnesses — maintains that no officers were in the vicinity at the time, and that none of their personnel were present until afterwards.

More officers were soon mobilized over concerns that the accusations could become violent. And they did: rioting and clashes with the police occurred throughout the night. Police reported that seven surveillance cameras were destroyed, as were twelve trash bins. Projectiles were also thrown at police stations and at the town hall, and there were other incidents of arson. Eight people between the ages of 16 and 32 were arrested and held in custody.

Residents said that they did not believe the police’s claims of innocence. “We only believe [that the police were responsible]because these sort of things happen all the time,” one local resident told a reporter.

Taous, Kémyl’s aunt, objected to the crowd’s refusal to believe that the police weren’t involved in his death, saying that it is creating a “bad image” of her nephew.
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On Friday, hundreds of Chechens, armed with automatic weapon, large knives, bats and other lethal weapons – arrived in the city of Dijon with plans to take revenge on a group of Arab drug dealers who allegedly sent 16-year-old Chechen boy to the hospital after severely beating him.
According to a report from the news outlet France Bleu, Chechens from all over the country first attacked a hookah bar called “the Black Pearl”, where the men who allegedly beat the young boy were believed to be hanging out at. When the initial clash was over, ten were left with injuries, some of them severe.

The ethnic violence didn’t end there, however. On Saturday night, a man was shot as automatic gunfire echoed across the corridors of flats in the district of Grésilles. The man was reportedly transported to the local hospital in serious condition.

According to Dijon residents, the fighting between rival ethnic groups over the weekend was “extremely violent”. One resident even told French media that they witnessed a man being bludgeoned over the head with an axe.

On Monday, a Dijon police officer said, “Unrest has been going on for the past three nights,” adding that “Chechen gangs linked to the drug trade and other criminal activity have mobilized to take part in battles with other gangs.”

“Weapons including Kalashnikovs, axes and baseball bats are being carried openly on the streets, and live ammunition is being fired. People are terrified.”

Army deployed to Dijon to quell ethnic violence between Chechens and Arabs
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Elite French Police Deployed as Armed Chechens and North Africans Go to War in Dijon

The French city of Dijon saw an increased police presence on Monday after several armed clashes between Chechen and North African gangs, following an attack on a Chechen teen on Friday.

Dozens of people, many of them armed with firearms, knives, and iron bars gathered in Grésilles to take revenge on members of the local North African community, reportedly following an attack on a Chechen 16-year-old boy on June 10th. According to the prosecutor of Dijon, Éric Mathais, at least six people had been wounded in clashes on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

At least 60 gendarmes officers were sent to Dijon to restore order along with 40 members of the CRS riot police, officers from the anti-crime brigade (BAC), and members of RAID, one of France’s most elite police units, newspaper Le Figaro reports.

Monday’s violence saw North African-background residents defending their “territory” from the Chechens who have launched a series of raids since Friday when a downtown hookah bar was attacked. Vehicles and trash cans were set on fire during the evening, and a TV crew from broadcaster France 3 was attacked as well.

“It was apparently members of the Chechen community who, since Friday, have called on their social networks to avenge the violence committed on a young person by people from the Maghreb community. For three evenings in a row, 140 people have come to Dijon to settle this dispute,” prosecutor Éric Mathais said.

One Chechen told media that other Chechens had come from not only other parts of France but from Belgium and Germany, as well.

The violence, according to local state official Bernard Schmeltz, “appeared to be part of a settling of scores between members of the Chechen community in France and residents”.

Dijon mayor François Rebsamen denounced the violence, saying: “Since justice comes too late and the police do not have the means to act, the Chechen community has come to enforce their rights themselves. We are no longer in the Republic when this happens.”

Videos of the violence and have circulated across social media in recent days along with other videos of what appear to be heavily armed men in tactical gear and long rifles.

The violence in Dijon comes after multiple riots have rocked various areas of France since the start of the Wuhan coronavirus lockdown, many of which have been sparked by allegations of police brutality in some of the county’s no-go neighbourhoods and suburbs.
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France: Macron may deport migrants involved in Dijon violence

French President Emmanuel Macron has reportedly asked his interior ministry to look into the possibility of expelling the foreign nationals involved in the recent violence which took place in Dijon.

After last weekend saw hundreds of Chechens and Maghreb Arabs – many armed with automatics, iron rods, and other deadly weapons – do battle with one another on the streets of Dijon, French special forces had to be called in to quell the violence, as previously reported by Voice of Europe.

According to a report from Le Figaro, among the Chechens who’ve been arrested or identified as having taken part in the violence, most are said to have refugee status.

On Tuesday, the Interior Ministry said that it would “systematically examine the possibility of expelling foreigners involved” in the ethnic violence which took place in Dijon between Chechens and those in the Maghreb community.

“Our response will be extremely firm and the [police]system will be maintained, the State Secretary to Interior Minister Christophe Castaner warned.

Castaner added that legal investigations into the violent incidents have been launched, and that the perpetrators would be “prosecuted and severely punished, commensurate with the serious acts.”

The widespread violence in Dijon kicked off last Friday after North African drug dealers beat a teenage Chechen boy so badly that he had to hospitalized. Hundreds of Chechens from all over France then traveled to Dijon to exact revenge of the North Africans.

According to a report from the French news website Marianne, representatives of the Maghreb and Chechen communities of Dijon met on Tuesday at the Muslim Cultural Center in Quétigny, outside of Dijon, to discuss putting an end to the violent confrontations. Allegedly, an apology was made and accepted between the parties.

The Muslim Youth of France in Burgundy confirmed the meeting in a press release.
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I always feel sad when I read about burning churches. :(
Massive fire breaks out at the historic Nantes Cathedral in France

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France (Reuters) - A fire in the 15-century cathedral in the western French city of Nantes blew out stained glass windows and destroyed the grand organ on Saturday, and officials said they suspected arson.

Prosecutor Pierre Sennes told reporters three fires had been started at the site and authorities were treating the incident as a criminal act. He gave no other details.

Officials said an investigation had been opened.

The fire began in the early morning, engulfing the inside in massive flames, and dozens of firemen brought it under control after several hours. Smoke was still coming out of the Gothic structure later on Saturday morning.

The blaze comes just over a year after a massive fire at the Notre-Dame Cathedral in Paris, which destroyed its roof and main spire.

“After Notre-Dame, the St. Peter and St. Paul Cathedral is in flames. Support to the firemen who are taking all the risks to save the Gothic jewel,” President Emmanuel Macron tweeted from Brussels, where he was attending an EU summit.

Local fire chief Laurent Ferlay told reporters 104 firemen were still at the site to ensure the blaze was completely under control.

The fire broke out behind the grand organ, which was completely destroyed, he said. Stained glassed windows at the front of the cathedral were blown out.

However, the damage was not as bad as initially feared.

“We are not in a Notre-Dame de Paris scenario. The roof has not been touched,” Ferlay said.

Prime Minister Jean Castex and the culture and interior ministers were due to visit the scene later in the day. reporters.

“I want to know what happened even if it’s very early,” Castex told reporters.

Jean-Yves Burban, who runs a newsagent facing the cathedral, said he had opened his business and heard a bang at around 7:30 a.m.. He went outside to see huge flames coming from the building.

“I am shook up because I’ve been here eight years and I see the cathedral every morning and evening,” he told Reuters. “It’s our cathedral and I’ve got tears in my eyes.”

It was not the first time fire has damaged the cathedral in Nantes, which is about 340 km (210 miles) southwest of Paris.

It was partly destroyed during World War Two in 1944 after Allied bombings. In 1972 a fire completely ravaged its roof. It was finally rebuilt 13 years later with a concrete structure replacing the ancient wooden roof.

“The fire of 1972 is in our minds, but at this stage the simulation is not comparable,” Nantes Mayor Johanna Rolland told reporters.

In 2015, a fire that appeared to have been caused by renovation work destroyed most of the roof of another church in Nantes, the Saint Donatien Basilica.
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French investigators are today questioning a man who worked at the cathedral in the city of Nantes .

The man, a Rwandan refugee, worked as a volunteer for the cathedral and had been in charge of locking up the building on Friday night, media reports said.

Sennes said the Rwandan refugee was being held to clear up inconsistencies in his schedule.

Jean-Charles Nowak, a clerk at the cathedral, told French newspaper Le Figaro the volunteer was "a man of duty" who has health problems and "suffered a lot in Rwanda" - a country he left several years ago. The refugee had been discussing extending his visa with local officials, he said.

The French RTL writes that the man was angry because his residence permit is not extended.
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I read the old beautiful organ was completely destroyed. I played it once, in the 70s... it was a really special one, and it had a rare 32' register for a booming base, and a haunting "vox humana" sounding like a humming choir. There is a cultural war going on in France, and people have not generally realised.

The first thing people should learn from this man is that you cannot take from people what you have given. If you let people in, then you are delusional, to use a modern buzzword, if you think that will leave again whenever you ask them too. Whoever arrives, stays as long as they want to. Very few exceptions.

We need to rethink out asylum laws. They are becoming a joke to some.
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manfred wrote:I read the old beautiful organ was completely destroyed. I played it once, in the 70s... it was a really special one, and it had a rare 32' register for a booming base, and a haunting "vox humana" sounding like a humming choir.
Do you play Organ? :*) I love organ music. If I visit a church, I can't leave if they play the organ.
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I used to play it quite regularly, not for a while though, my eye sight does not allow it. But I can still play things I memorised, for example the Vidor toccata.
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manfred wrote:I used to play it quite regularly, not for a while though, my eye sight does not allow it. But I can still play things I memorised, for example the Vidor toccata.
Bowing deeply for you. Very incredible difficult piece. For people who don't know it. (philistines.)

Here he is !!! Manfred in his younger years.
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Oh, I know that guy.... he is VERY good! (I am quite rubbish compared to him)
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French investigators on Sunday released a man who worked as a volunteer at the gothic cathedral of Nantes which was badly damaged by fire hours after he closed it up for the night.

Prosecutors launched an arson investigation after the Saturday morning blaze which they said appeared to have broken out in three different parts of the Cathedral of St Peter and St Paul in Nantes, western France.

The questioning on Sunday had sought to "clarify elements of the schedule" of the volunteer, who had been in charge of closing up the cathedral on Friday evening, Nantes prosecutor Pierre Sennes told AFP.

He had held as part of "normal procedure" and it would have been "premature" to suggest the man was a suspect in the case, the prosecutor said earlier.

Later Sunday, however, Sennes confirmed that the man had been released "without charge".
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Funny how we never seem to find out the names of the arsonists who have been setting churches on fire all over France

Just last week we saw the 15th Century Saint-Pierre-et-Saint-Paul Cathedral in Nantes in flames, in what has become the latest in a series of arson-related fires at French churches in recent years. Dozens of churches have been torched but only one mosque in all that time. Hmmm.
About the Nantes cathedral fire, they say now that although the fire started in three different places, it is possible that the fire started accidentally. :clueless:
Nantes cathedral fire may be accidental: French minister

There is nothing to suggest at this stage that a fire in the 15-century cathedral in the western French city of Nantes was started deliberately, France’s interior minister said on Tuesday.

“At this hour, nothing suggests that this is a criminal act,” Gerald Darmanin told lawmakers in parliament. “An investigation has been opened. It could be that this was accidental.”
Sure. :ermm: I guess the fires were started by fireflies, or a cigarette but. Also possible, it was Allah will.

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But church fires are just part of the problem. Hundreds of French churches are being vandalized every year, especially since mass Muslim migration flooded Europe in 2015. Crosses are broken, altars smashed, Bibles set on fire, baptismal fonts overturned, and the church doors smeared with Islamic expressions like ‘Allahu Akbar.’
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Would you believe it. :) Nantes cathedral fire volunteer arrested and charged with arson. So the fire was not a case of spontaneous combustion. They have arrested again the Rwandan refugee.

Jean-Charles Nowak, a clerk at the cathedral who said that the Rwandan refugee could not have done it must feel very silly now.
Nantes cathedral fire: volunteer arrested and charged with arson

The 39-year-old who closed the cathedral for the night had previously been questioned and released by police

A volunteer assistant suspected of setting a French cathedral on fire has been rearrested, then indicted and detained in pre-trial custody by prosecutors.

The man, already held and released by police last week, was indicted on Saturday night “on charges of destruction and damage by fire” of the gothic cathedral of Nantes, the public prosecutor for the western city said.

The fire broke out on July 18, hours after the volunteer altar server had closed up the building for the night.

Prosecutors launched an arson investigation into the blaze, which they said appeared to have hit three different parts of the Cathedral of St Peter and St Paul.

Police investigating the incident had arrested the 39-year-old Rwandan national and then released him last week.

His lawyer said at the time there was nothing directly linking his client to the fire.

But following developments in the inquiry, the man was rearrested on Saturday and later appeared before a judge in the city, prosecutor Pierre Sennes said in a statement.

The blaze came just 15 months after a devastating fire tore through the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris.

It destroyed the Nantes congregation’s famed organ, which dated from 1621 and had survived the French revolution and bombardment during the second world war.

Also lost were priceless artefacts and paintings, including a work by 19th-century artist Hippolyte Flandrin and stained-glass windows that contained remnants of 16th-century glass.
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