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News from Sweden.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:38 pm
by Ariel
Swedish employment office to open in Ethiopia

The Swedish Public Employment Service (Arbetsförmedlingen) plans to open an office in the Ethiopian capital Addis Ababa in an effort to prepare emigrating Somalis for life in Sweden.

The purpose of the pilot project is to assist Somalis who have received a Swedish residence permit on family reunification grounds but who have not yet arrived in Sweden.

In 2012, a Swedish Migration Court decision opened the door for many Somalis to join family members who have permission to stay in Sweden. The Swedish embassy in Addis Ababa processes these applications.

By mapping out the residency applicants’ professional and educational backgrounds, the Public Employment Service hopes to find suitable places in Sweden where they can apply for work.

“If we can help prepare them we believe we can win time, quite simply, when it comes to their establishment in Sweden,” Mattias Wahlsten, operations coordinator at the Public Employment Service, told Sveriges Radio (SR). ... rants.html" onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:47 pm
by Ariel
Somalis in Sweden demand free housing and more money. Take a minute of you time to look at this video.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:28 am
by Ariel
Sweden: 6.7% (primary Muslim) pop welfare burden so high local council has to cut meals in elderly care

The end of bread, butter and milk for the elderly in Härjedalen

Härjedalen is reducing all accessory food deliveries in their home care. From now on there will be no more bread, butter or dessert to the elderly. But they must still pay the same fee for food, reports Swedish Radio.

The municipality has recently had a sharp priority to receive the ever increasing flow of immigrants.

In Sveg an existing accommodation for young immigrant, which since its inception has been characterized by fights and turmoil, has been supplemented with additional accommodation at a cost of 5.5 million Swedish Kroner. The accommodation served the men around the clock by a staff that is as large as the number of immigrants.

The municipality has also seen a large increase in the number of refugees, especially from Syria. In Hede it was recently decided to provide free houses to all Syrians granted residence permits.

According to the municipality, immigrants prove to be a predictive pension savior.

- We need to see this in the longer term where we already know we will have many retirements in different occupational groups. We should see this as a resource, says municipal manager Inger Lagerquist to our question on the free apartments to Syrians.

Swedish Radio


Local Council Statistics (below): The township of Härjedalen in Sweden has a mere 6.7% immigrant population, of which the overwhelming majority is Muslim, who now over represent government handouts to such extent they have passed the entire local native population. This massive cost in payouts to immigrants, who tend to be intentional permanent welfare recipients with no active employment, has forced the local council to cut expenses in other services such as food servings to the elderly in elderly care.

Graph: Light Green = Foreign born, 6.7%. Dark Green = Swedish born, 93.3%. Red = amounts in payments overrepresented. (Within Swedish born is included children of migrants). Immigrant cost in 2012 was 51.4% of the entire annual budget for the township of Härjedalen covering a mere 6.7% population. ... e-elderly/" onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 6:07 pm
by Jimi
We have to be careful. Sometimes it can sound like immigrate bashing when we look at Muslim immigration problems. This does not help us attack Islam. It only contributes to Muslims playing the role of the victims. The anti Islam people should not side with anti immigrating groups. We need to focus on the message of real Islam and sharia law in the west.

We need to expose the lies of Islam for western consumption. We need to show how Islam is the source of many of the problems facing newly arrived Muslims in the west. And we need to avoid being labeled as anti immigration. We are pro people and freedom. We want the best for everyone. And we don't think Islam is the answer to any of the problems we face today. In fact in many cases Islam is the problem, not immigration.

Exsposing the danger of Islam and the sharia should be what we focus on.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:08 pm
by StrongLove
Agreed! But I don't think thats what Ariel was getting at.

Immigration is not a bad thing. My home, Canada wouldn't exist as it is without it. Everyone here, including aborigines, came from elsewhere. One of my grandparents, one of my Great Grandparents & my Wife are all immigrants.

If this becomes about race then we are the haters instead of those who are defending against aggressors.

"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."

Friedrich Nietzsche

We must always be careful that the outrage we all feel about islamic aggression not turn into hate.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:07 am
by Ariel
Jimi wrote:
Exsposing the danger of Islam and the sharia should be what we focus on.
Yes Jimi. Immigration is not a bad thing when you have immigrants who integrate, but most Muslims in Europe don't intergrate you know . Immigration here has to stop. More than 23 million Muslims reside in Europe. That is a lot, because in Europa we do not have the space you have in the USA and Canada.
The growing Muslim presence in Europe has tended to cluster geographically within individual states, particularly in industrialized, urban areas within clearly defined, if not self-encapsulated, poorer neighborhoods such as Berlin’s Kreuzberg district, London’s Tower Hamlets, and the banlieues in France. Some suburbs in Belgium we don't recognize anymore. It is as if you walk in Morocco or in an other Islamic country.

This is Brussels.

What I wanted to do, was tell you of some of the problems our countries experience with the muslims immigration .
But I won't bother you anymore with stories from here.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 8:01 am
by StrongLove
They don't integrate well here either. While they only make 2.8 % of our population we hear Canada mentioned way to often in connection with terrorists. They immigrated here or their parents do & when they grow up they're off to Pakistan for training.

In 2006 "The Toronto 18" were arrested for
"They were accused of planning to detonate truck bombs, to open fire in a crowded area, and to storm the Canadian Broadcasting Centre, the Canadian Parliament building, the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) headquarters, and the parliamentary Peace Tower to take hostages and to behead the Prime Minister and other leaders"

Last year it was
" The Algerian government claims two Canadians of Arab descent were part of the assault on the Sahara desert facility, which ended with 38 workers dead along with more than two dozen of the hostage takers"

And we have"The notorious Khadr family was closely involved with Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda before and after the 9/11 terror attacks. Patriarch Ahmed Said Khadr, a bagman for the terror group, was killed by Pakistani forces near the Afghan border in 2003. His four sons were all involved and second-youngest Omar Khadr spent a decade imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay for murder before being transferred to Canadian custody last September"

And it goes on "As recently as last summer, the National Post reported William Plotnikov, a 23-year-old Canadian Muslim convert from Toronto, had been killed by Russian forces battling Islamists in Dagestan, which borders Chechnya"

Muslims do not integrate, they infest and they infect the society they inhabit with a savage & violent ideology.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:01 am
by Ariel
StrongLove wrote:
Muslims do not integrate, they infest and they infect the society they inhabit with a savage & violent ideology.
True. They want to bring their home country with all its idiotic ideology and habits to the country they immigrate to. And you know Stronglove, I can't blame them. In Europe they get free money, free houses, free everything, and they are treated by the left-wingers like precious, innocent ,fragile children you have to take care of.
I blame our governments who encourage those people to come. EU sold it's soul to OPEC in 1975. Oil for immigration.
For years I have wondered how our government, without acception, all use the same sweet, milky clichés concerning issues about the now so troubling muslim-immigration. Not only here in Holland but on the entire west-European continent! Never before I've heard them speak about the "enrichment of our society" or "education with retention of native culture and language" and all of a sudden, they all spoke with the same tongue, like they where magically enchanted.

Obama is doing to the U.S. what the European Commission did to Europe with the Stassburg convenant of 1975. He is opening the doors for MASS-MUSLIMISATION. We cannot change or go back to how it was here in Europe, but it seems the same tactics and strategy is used by mr. Obama these days.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:51 pm
by ringmaster
StrongLove wrote:They don't integrate well here either. ......................
Ariel wrote:......................

Yes Jimi. Immigration is not a bad thing when you have immigrants who integrate, but most Muslims in Europe don't intergrate you know . ........................
Why would you or anyone else expect muslims to integrate? It has been tried over and over again and it never works.

To paraphrase Einstein, if you you try the same thing again and again, and expect a different result, you belong in a mental hospital.

Besides, to integrate would be against the teaching of their religion. To integrate would fly into the face of supremacist verse 9-29.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:56 pm
by Ariel
SWEDEN: Muslim Socialist leader wants Swedish Defense Forces to “bomb Israel and exterminate Jews”
Arab Muslim refugee to Sweden, Omar Mustafa, who is a close friend of Muslim jihadists, was elected to the board of the largest political party in Sweden, Socialdemokraterna, the Socialist party.
And no one in the Socialist party, or in any of the other parties, has condemned his incendiary remarks. ... nate-jews/" onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:14 pm
by Ariel
More wonderful news from Sweden. Although, nothing new. In the Netherlands mosques are also allowed to make prayer call from all mosques throughout the whole country, and I guess in England it is normal too.
GOODBYE SWEDEN: Police allow eardrum shattering Islamic Call to Prayer from Stockholm mosque

A mosque in the south of Stockholm was given the all-clear by Swedish police to make prayer calls from its minaret, the first time such permission has ever been granted in the country. Now it’s once a week for 5 minutes. Soon it will be five times a day for 5 minutes each time.

The Stockholm police removed the final hurdle for prayer calls, ruling that the call to prayer would be allowed for between three to five minutes on Fridays between midday and 1pm. Local councillors had already approved the move in principle.
“I’m happy, very happy,” Ismail Okur, chair of the Botkyrka Islamic Association (Islamiska föreningen i Botkyrka), told Sveriges Radio (SR). ”It means a great deal for our association and above all for our religion, and for the prayer,” he added.He added that despite the long process of getting the process allowed, he was never worried that the plans would not be approved.
In September, the Botkyrka municipality’s city planning committee voted in favour of scrapping a 1994 prohibition on allowing prayer calls, which dates back from before the construction of the mosque. The mosque was built in 2007 in the municipality’s Fittja district and has over 1,500 members.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:31 pm
by Ariel
And it is even worse now.
The New York Times and Sweden: The Dark Side of Paradise

Robert Spencer and Hugh Fitzgerald of Jihad Watch have a nickname for newspaper the New York Times, which they prefer to call “the New Duranty Times” owing to what they perceive as its poor coverage of the global Islamic jihad. The name, of course, comes from Walter Duranty, former Pulitzer Prize winner and Moscow correspondent for The New York Times in the 1930s. Duranty repeatedly denied the existence of a Ukrainian famine in 1932–33. In an article in NYT, August 24 1933, he claimed “any report of a famine is today an exaggeration or malignant propaganda,” while millions of people were dying. According to Spencer and Fitzgerald, this spirit of denial seems to be alive and well at the NYT 70 years later.

In the New York Times May 10, 2006, Alan Cowell wrote an article from Sweden entitled “An Economy With Safety Features, Sort of Like a Volvo.” Now, in all fairness, Mr. Cowell does mention potential problems in Sweden, not the least that massive immigration is rapidly changing what was once a very ethnically homogeneous nation state. “Up to 10 years ago it was very homogeneous as a country. Everything was very alike. Up until then all Swedes looked the same; almost thought the same. Because we are all so equal, we can share the pain of the problems.” However, at the same time Cowell indicates that Scandinavia may need even more immigration to finance its welfare state, and quotes a report by the European Policy Center, a research institute in Brussels, saying that “Scandinavia’s “negative approach towards immigration” might “represent the biggest threat to the long-term survival” of the Nordic model, since Scandinavian economies need “a constant flux of foreign talent and workers in general.” Still, despite these objections, Cowell concludes that “the economy prospers — even though taxes here remain high and big government administers cradle-to-grave social programs that absorb more than half of the national output” and that “compared with some other parts of Europe, there is still some optimism here.” This is sloppy journalism. If Cowell had done anything more than scratching the surface, he would have found that Europe is in the midst of massive waves of Muslim immigration that are in the process of transforming the continent into a post-Western entity some call “Eurabia.” Sweden is one of the leading countries in this process, quite possibly the worst of them all, and yet freedom of speech in debating these topics in public has become de facto so curtailed that one could question whether Sweden in 2006 is still a functioning democracy.

Cowell states that “Sweden’s official unemployment rate of 4.8 percent, many economists say, is distorted by the omission of people in government-financed retraining programs. The labor unions calculate the real figure at closer to 8 percent.” In fact, some Swedes believe that the real unemployment rate may be three times as big as even this higher estimate. Hans Karlsson, a leftwing heavyweight, concluded that true unemployment was more in the ballpark of 20-25%, not 5% as the government was claiming. Even the official numbers show that the Swedish economic model is in serious trouble. Young adults born in the 1980’s have an appreciably lower standard of living in Sweden than older generations. We can already see some major cracks in the Swedish welfare state. Sweden is struggling to pay the bills for the tens of thousands of workers on long-term disability and an expanding group of young people leaving the workforce altogether on so-called “early retirement.” 500,000 people are on early retirement in Sweden today, 68,000 of whom are between the ages of 20 and 40. “If the sick-leave levels in Sweden really were an indicator of how sick we are, we would be facing a plague here,” as one commentator put it.

High unemployment in Sweden will be tackled by creating more public sector jobs, even if that means breaking the government’s spending limits. That was the message from Göran Persson, Swedish Social Democratic prime minister. The jobs will be targeted mainly at young people and the long-term unemployed. They will be given jobs in government agencies, mainly doing desk jobs or looking after old people. Proposals that were highlighted by Persson included using the long-term unemployed to “help old people to hang curtains.”

Johnny Munkhammar of Timbro, a free market think-tank of Swedish Enterprise, explains that the Scandinavian model is not all it’s cracked up to be. Sweden had the second highest growth rate in the world from 1890 to 1950, but since the tax rate rose from 20 % in 1950 to 50 % in 1980 it had fallen behind. For example, according to the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), Sweden was the fourth richest country per capita in the world in 1970 whereas now it is down to number 14, and falling. Maybe the welfare state only seemed to be a success in Scandinavia because these nations had been dynamic capitalist countries prior to this, ethnically homogeneous and based upon a Protestant work ethic. While this legacy kept the welfare system afloat for some time, it is now rapidly being eroded.

More immigrants should be allowed into Sweden in order to safeguard the welfare system. That’s the view of Pär Nuder, Sweden’s finance minister. However, in reality estimates indicate that immigration costs Sweden at least 40 to 50 billion Swedish kroner every year, probably several hundred billions, and has greatly contributed to bringing the Swedish welfare state to the brink of bankruptcy. An estimated cost of immigration of 225 billion Swedish kroner in 2004, which is not unlikely, would equal 17.5% of Sweden’s tax income that year, a heavy burden in a country where the overall tax burden between 1990 and 2005 on average was 61%, almost one and a half times the OECD average.

In neighboring Denmark, right-wing politicians are already debating the threat of a spillover of immigrant “welfare tourists,” should the Swedish system collapse. At the same time, statistics indicate that native Scandinavians will become a minority in their own countries within a couple of generations, if the current immigration trends continue. One thousand years ago Scandinavians were the barbarians of Europe, spreading fear and extracting “Danegeld” from their more civilized neighbors. In the 21st century Scandinavians are peaceful and soft-spoken, and the roles seem to have been reversed with certain newly arrived immigrants. While their political elites insist that immigration is “good for the economy,” Scandinavians are in reality funding their own colonization. Although the cost of welfare is significant, it pales in comparison to the price paid through rapidly declining social harmony and increasing insecurity caused by Muslim immigration. Some of the increase in insecurity is due to the rise of mafia groups and organized crime, but most is mainly due to terror threats and intimidation of critics of Islam and Muslim immigration.

Children in the Swedish city of Gothenburg are to become the first in the world to be given the vote in a referendum. Two official referenda will be held in which only children between 5 and 12 will be eligible to vote. The results of the polls will decide two local issues - the appearance of a new tram and the design of a new library card. A country that even gives the vote to 5-year-old children must be a model of democracy, right? Well, not necessarily, if the political elites treat the rest of the population as children, too. Jens Orback, Democracy Minister in the Social Democratic government, is worried about people who threaten and harass politicians and want these to face tougher penalties. Nearly three out of four Riksdag (parliament) deputies say that they have been subjected to harassment, threats or violence because of their positions. For elected representatives in local government the figure was around one in three. The minister blamed threats and violence against elected representatives “on the public’s lack of faith in politicians.”

But if Sweden is such a paradise, why are so many people angry with their politicians? Perhaps there is something going on beneath the surface? Maybe ordinary citizens feel that the political elites don’t want to deal with the issues they care about? Sweden is a semi-totalitarian country. It’s all about façade. On the surface, Sweden is a tolerant nation and peaceful democracy. In reality, there is massive media censorship by a closed elite that is scared of having a debate about immigration. Opinion polls have revealed that two out of three Swedes doubt whether Islam can be combined with Swedish society, and a very significant proportion of the population have for years wanted more limitations on immigration. Yet not one party represented in the Swedish Parliament is genuinely critical of the Multicultural society or the current immigration policies. The Swedish elite congratulate themselves that they have managed to keep “xenophobic” parties from gaining a foothold while the country is sinking underneath their feet.

Jonathan Friedman is a New York Jew, now living with his Swedish wife in the southern Swedish city of Malmö where he teaches socio-anthropology. According to him, “no debate about immigration policies is possible, the subject is simply avoided. Sweden has such a close connection between the various powerful groups, politicians, journalists, etc. The political class is closed, isolated.”

Two Swedish girls were sent home from school for wearing sweaters showing a tiny Swedish flag. The headmaster was concerned that this might be deemed offensive by some immigrants. Helle Klein, political editor of the newspaper Aftonbladet, boasts: “If the debate is going to be about whether there are problems with immigrants, we don’t want it.” Hans Bergström, former editor-in-chief of the Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter, worries that Sweden has become “a one-party state.” According to Friedman, the elites are nervous and worried to see their power slip away. And therefore they want to silence critics, as for instance the Sweden Democrats, a small rightist party outside parliament opposed to immigration. “It is a completely legal party, they just aren’t allowed to speak. It is absurdly undemocratic. They are marginalised. They are isolated and ridiculed. . . . and then they are called undemocratic.

In reality, the basis of democracy has been completely turned on its head. It is said: ‘democracy is a certain way of thinking, a specific set of opinions, and if you do not share them, then you aren’t democratic, and then we condemn you and you ought to be eliminated. The People? That is not democratic. We the Elite, we are democracy.’ It is grotesque and it certainly has nothing to do with democracy, more like a kind of moral dictatorship.”

Before the national elections in the fall of 2006, members of all the established parties, including the so-called right-wing opposition, are cooperating in efforts to boycott any collaboration with the Sweden Democrats or other “xenophobic” parties after the elections. This is widely applauded by the Swedish media establishment. The majority of headmasters in Stockholm’s high schools want to block the Sweden Democrats from participating in pre-election debates at their schools because they disagree with their “perspective on humanity.” Party members can seldom hold meetings without being hassled by political hooligans, who make noise, destroy equipment or even resort to violence. Violent assaults and life threatening attacks against members of the Sweden Democrats, by Muslims or “anti-Fascists,” have taken place many times, but are rarely mentioned in the media. No dissent is tolerated in Sweden.

In one such attack, which extreme Leftists were later openly bragging about on the Internet, around 30 members of the Sweden Democrats were attending a private party outside the town of Växjö. “To clearly demonstrate that the Sweden Democrats are not welcome in our area, about 20 anti-Fascists chose to attack the party.” “The Sweden Democrats were attacked with knives, axes, iron bars and other weapons. After that, their cars were destroyed.” The brave Leftists then smashed the windows and threw tear gas into the building, forcing people outside, where they were again attacked and beaten with iron bars and axes. Several of the people were hospitalized after the attack. This was a peaceful, private party by unarmed members of a perfectly legal political party that just happens to be critical of the country’s immigration policies. These brave Leftists or “anti-Fascists” do, for some curious reason, seem to behave pretty much like, well, Fascists, a bit like the Brown Shirts in the 1930s, physically assaulting political opponents to silence them. In another incident in Stockholm, members of the Sweden Democrats handing out leaflets for the party were attacked by a group of extreme Leftists, who started beating and kicking them. One of them got tear gas sprayed in his face. According to Oscar Sjöstedt from the Sweden Democrats in Stockholm, this was the third tear gas attack against them in a few months.

Seemingly encouraged by the silence over these attacks from the police and the political establishment, who seem in no rush to stop these assaults on troublesome political opponents, the extreme Leftists have recently stepped up their attacks to also include mainstream parties represented in parliament. Two windows were smashed at the Centre Party’s offices in Stockholm. Several of the Centre Party’s offices around the country have been vandalised. A party representative said that they suspected that the attacks were in protest against the party’s proposal for special labour agreements for newly employed young people. Similar attacks have been carried out elsewhere. On the Internet and at demonstrations, a ‘faction of the Invisible Party’, a group said to be extreme left anarchists, has claimed responsibility for the attacks.

While critics of immigration are demonized in Sweden, Communists are much more accepted. The Left Party is a support party for the current Swedish Social Democratic government, whose party does not hold a majority in parliament by itself. Leader of the Left Party, Lars Ohly, has called himself a Communist after he was elected party leader. In 1999, a decade after the fall of the Berlin Wall, he stated that: “I stand for a modern Leninism based on class struggle.” He has also said that “we must never accept a conception of democracy elevated far above the class struggle.” Senior party members had close contact with the repressive regimes in Eastern Europe during the Cold War. In Sweden, it is OK to openly support an ideology that killed 100 million people during the 20th century and enslaved millions more, but “undemocratic” to call for limitations in Muslim immigration.

The website “The Local”, a good source of Swedish news translated to English, notes that it looks increasingly likely that any government led by the Social Democrats will also include the Left Party in a formal coalition after this fall. Apart from quoting approvingly from Marx’s Communist Manifesto, “the party’s economic policy document contains such gems as a six hour working day, renationalization of previously state-owned companies, and policies for large companies to be taken over by workers or the state.” For the past two parliaments, the Social Democrats have ruled with support from the Greens and the Left Party, but neither party has been given a formal place in government. Soon, Sweden “could have cabinet ministers arguing for large tax increases in a country which already has one of the world’s highest tax burdens. Alternatively, they could be demanding nationalization of industry in a country where the state already owns mining companies, mortgage lenders, drinks makers, pharmacies and betting companies.” The leader of the Left Party is putting his foot down before national elections this September. If the Left Party doesn’t get a ministerial post, Lars Ohly told newspaper Dagens Nyheter his party might not support a Social Democrat-led minority government.

Swedish blog the Stockholm Spectator comments on the strong support for these “reformed” Communists among Swedish journalists, documented by opinion polls: “Unlike the American media landscape, where accusations of bias are routinely leveled and ritually denied, it isn’t uncommon in Sweden to admit that coverage is lop-sided. Left-wing journalist Jan Guillo, responding to a study showing a disproportionate amount of Left Party (former Communist party) voters in Stockholm newsrooms, admitted that “The statistics are true…There is a definite overrepresentation of leftists in the media world.” The same Guillo has also bragged about the fact that unlike Scandinavian neighbors Norway and Denmark, Sweden doesn’t have a significant political party critical of Muslim immigration. This is, according to him, because Swedish intellectuals have stuck together to prevent this from happening. “Swedish Radio correspondent Ceclia Udden who, when accused of systematic bias in covering the American election, blithely agreed with her critics and expressed bewilderment as to why anyone would be bothered by such trivialities. “On such issues as the US right and Israel…there was a Swedish…consensus, and any reporting had to be based on that,” she said.”

Ethnologist Maria Bäckman, in her study “Whiteness and gender,” has followed a group of Swedish girls in the suburb of Rinkeby outside Stockholm, where native Swedes have been turned into a tiny minority of the inhabitants due to rapid immigration. The subjects of the study were “teenage girls, living in the suburbs, who are identified both by themselves and by others as Swedish. But they are Swedes living in what is usually called an immigrant suburb. Thus they are seen as different.” “They may encounter prejudices such as the idea that Swedish girls act and dress in a sexually provocative way or that blonde girls are easy.” Bäckman relates that several of the girls she interviewed stated that they had dyed their hair to avoid unwanted attention and sexual harassment. They experienced that being blonde involves old men staring at you, cars honking their horns and boys calling you “whore.” We thus have a situation where being blonde in certain areas of Sweden means being a target of harassment. The Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten visited Rinkeby to find out if the rumors were true. They spent several hours there, in a suburb of the Swedish capital, without finding a single blonde, Swedish girl. Almost all the inhabitants there are of immigrant background. Virtually none of them referred to themselves as Swedish, they usually said they came from somewhere else. Many of them also asked the journalists questions about Swedes, to hear what they are like. They thought Swedes were idiots, but they hardly ever met any of them.

A report from organization Save the Children tells of how being a young Swedish girl today means feeling unsafe. The girls are scared of being raped, a possibility that appears very real to them. Many girls are planning how to go home at night, how to pretend to be talking on the mobile phone, how to keep their keys in their hand to defend themselves or how to simply run all the way home. Both the fear and the choice of strategies indicate that many girls feel genuinely unsafe outdoors during certain hours of the day. The fear is well founded. A striking number of girls have experienced harassment from boys or men. Most frequently, the harassment comes from boys of the same age as the girls. Being called “whore” has become so common in some schools that several of the girls say the teachers no longer react to this.

Tensta is a suburb in northern Stockholm with a very high concentration of immigrants. Nalin Pekgul, a member of parliament between 1994 and 2002, recently left Tensta because she thought it had become too unsafe. “I understood then that many are wearing bulletproof vests here. What has happened here, I wondered. Is this Tensta?” Pekgul, who is a Muslim herself, has also noted that fundamentalistic variants of Islam are growing stronger in Tensta. Her children come home and wonder why their mother doesn’t wear a hijab or why their family don’t go to the mosque. “I don’t like it when my son comes home and says that ‘Mom, we Muslims don’t lie, but Christians do, because they don’t have God.’ He hasn’t got that from us,” she says. Actress Ylva Törnlund has visited several schools in Tensta, and was alarmed by the harsh atmosphere she discovered there. “The attitudes we meet in the schools are frightening. One boy talked about how girls should be f**ked to pieces until they bleed,” Törnlund said. She decided to visit the area after a rape that took place in a public bath nearby in broad daylight. A 17-year-old girl was raped, and none of the other guests did anything to stop this. The girl was first approached by a 16-year-old boy. He and his friends followed her as she walked away into a grotto, and inside the grotto he got her blocked in the corner, ripped off her bikini and raped her, while his friend held her firm.

“It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl,” says Hamid, in an interview about another gang rape involving a Swedish girl and immigrant perps. “The Swedish girl gets a lot of help afterwards, and she had probably f**ked before, anyway. But the Arab girl will get problems with her family. For her, being raped is a source of shame. It is important that she retains her virginity until she marries.”“It is far too easy to get a Swedish whore…… girl, I mean;” says Hamid, and laughs over his own choice of words. “Many immigrant boys have Swedish girlfriends when they are teenagers. But when they get married, they get a proper woman from their own culture who has never been with a boy. That’s what I am going to do. I don’t have too much respect for Swedish girls. I guess you can say they get f**ked to pieces.” The number of rape charges in Sweden has quadrupled in just above twenty years. Rape cases involving children under the age of 15 are six times as common today as they were a generation ago. Resident aliens from Algeria, Libya, Morocco and Tunisia dominate the group of rape suspects. Lawyer Ann Christine Hjelm, who has investigated violent crimes in one court, found that 85 per cent of the convicted rapists were born on foreign soil or by foreign parents.

The official explanation given by Swedish authorities to this increase is that much of it is a “technical” increase due to the fact that more victims of rape now report this crime to the police. There is not a hint of evidence for this explanation. On the contrary, intimidation of people reporting any kind of crime to the police has rapidly worsened in Sweden during the same time period. Threats against witnesses in Swedish court cases quadrupled between 2000 and 2003 alone. Besides, there is a lack of trust among the general public in the efficiency of their police force. Street violence of all kinds is soaring on a national level. Private security companies are in great demand in major Swedish cities, as a serious lack of police to combat rising crime has made many citizens tired of being robbed. The number of reported cases of physical abuse/assault in Stockholm has tripled in three decades. The number of people under the age of 18 who are serving sentences in juvenile detention centres has risen sharply over the last five years. Gangs of 14- and 15-year-olds raping and robbing is now common in many Stockholm suburbs. Mafia networks demanding protecting money from private businesses are increasingly common. Organized crime is no longer just a problem in the major cities. It has now spread throughout most of Sweden. At the same time, the underfunded and undermanned Swedish police officers feel “unmotivated” to fight crime, according to a study made by police researcher Stefan Holgersson, who interviewed 2000 Swedish police officers.

One person who seems to have a better grasp than Mr. Cowell of what’s happening with Muslim immigration in Sweden and Europe is Christopher Caldwell, who has written several articles about the topic, including one in the New York Times in February 2006 called “Islam on the Outskirts of the Welfare State.” Visting the Stockholm immigrant suburb of Rinkeby, Caldwell asked whether something like the French riots of the fall of 2005, with burning cars and rampaging gangs, could happen in Sweden. “Absolutely,” said one lanky boy near the window. “People burn cars here all the time. Not because they’re angry — because they think it’s fun.” In January, former Swedish MP Nalin Pekgul had a public discussion with the French feminist Fadela Amara about changes in France. “Whenever she talked about France,” Pekgul recalls, “it sounded like we were undergoing the same changes France did, only 10 years behind. It was the first time I had thought: I’m going to have to leave. It’s not going to get better.” Caldwell also noted, while mentioning the fact that immigrants still tend to marry someone from their original homeland, that in Sweden, unlike Denmark, “public discussion of this kind of endogamy is muted, although Swedes complain in private that it slows integration and unacceptably widens the number of potential new immigrants. “It’s nothing you can talk about,” says one educator at a Million Program school. “In general, we despise the Danes for raising this.” The rise of a right-wing anti-immigrant party, along the lines of the Danish People’s Party, appears unlikely in Sweden.”

Meanwhile, the Islamization of Sweden is proceeding apace. In the spring of 2006, Sweden’s largest Muslim organisation demanded in a letter, signed by its leader Mahmoud Aldebe, that Sweden introduce separate laws for Muslims. The proposals included allowing imams into state (public) schools to give Muslim children separate lessons in Islam and their parents’ native languages. The letter also said that boys and girls should have separate swimming lessons and that divorces between Muslims should be approved by an imam. The letter was a list running over several pages with aggressive demands for just about everything; separate family laws for Muslims, regulating marriage and divorce, that public schools should employ imams to teach homogeneous classes of Muslims children in their religion and the language of their original homeland, and a “mosque in every municipality to be built through interest-free loans made available by the local municipalities.” This to “demonstrate “Islam’s right to exist in Sweden” and to “heighten the status of and respect towards Muslims.” Sweden’s Equality Minister Jens Orback called the proposals “completely unacceptable.”

That sounds encouraging. However, it looks increasingly as if the election in September will be a very close race, and the Leftist parties will be dependent upon the support of immigrants, who tend to vote for Leftist parties all over Europe, to remain in power. As Nima Sanandaji points out in FrontPage Magazine, “Swedish public television exposed that the leading Social Democratic party had started fishing for votes with the help of radical Muslim clergies.” For several years the Christian wing of the Social Democratic party, called The Brotherhood, has been working with the influential Muslim leader Mahmoud Aldebe, president of Sweden’s Muslim Association. Already in 1999, Aldebe proposed that sharia, Islamic law, should be introduced in Sweden. After an honor killing of a Kurdish girl in 2003, Aldebe did not condemn the murderers. Aldebe sees the entire debate regarding honor-related murders as an attack against the Islamic religion and claims in a letter that a public debate regarding these acts of murder risks “encourag[ing] immigrant girls to revolt against the tradition of the families and their religious values.” After the last election in 2002, Sweden’s Muslim Association sent a congratulation letter to the re-elected Social Democratic Prime minister Göran Persson, congratulating him on his victory and hoping that Persson would work for implementing some of the demands of the Association in the future. The Muslim Brotherhood has earlier stated that for them, “Sweden is in many ways an ideal country, [and it] shares the ideals of the [Swedish] Social Democrats in their view of the welfare society. Leading figures in Muslim congregations are also active within the Social Democratic [Party], and have very good relations with Sweden’s Christian Social Democrats. “The Social Democrats have, in turn, and perhaps as thanks for the support they receive from the mosque leadership, shown a tendency to shy away from the fact that there is extremism in some of our mosques. This has given the Muslim Brotherhood the freedom to force its ideology upon [the mosque’s worshippers].”

During the spring of 2006, by granting a visa to Hamas “refugee minister” Atef Edwane, Sweden enabled the terrorist representative to visit any other European country who had signed the Schengen Accord. Atef Edwane visited Norway and Germany as part of a European tour, despite a European Union policy of no contact with the radical movement. As sensible Swedish blogger Dick Erixon pointed out, it seems as if the Social Democratic Swedish government are more willing to be dealing with Islamic terrorist organizations such as Hamas than with the Sweden Democrats or native Swedes wanting to limit Muslim immigration. At the same time, PM Göran Persson stated that “the government made an error when it allowed the Swedish Air Force to undertake exercises together with Israel.” The Air Force took part in exercises with Israel in 2005 in Canada. Sweden also decided to withdraw from an international air force exercise to be held in Italy in May 2006, after learning that units from the Israeli air force would participate. After the Hamas visa story, Israeli authorities called Sweden “the most anti-Israeli country in Europe,” which in the Eurabia of 2006 is quite an achievement. Sweden is a neutral country, and its concept of “neutrality” has in the past frequenly implied appeasing the anti-democratic forces of the day. In a process we might label “Swedish jumping,” Sweden appeased the Nazis in the 1930s and later the Communists and the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Sticking to form, it is appeasing the Islamic world now.

Earlier in 2006, Swedish Chancellor of Justice Mr Göran Lambertz decided to discontinue his department’s pre-trial investigation into the Grand Mosque of Stockholm, where audio cassettes with highly inflammatory anti-Semitic content were being sold. After Swedish radio programme Dagens Eko unveiled the contents of the cassettes in November 2005, a charge of racial incitement was filed. The Swedish Chancellor of Justice responded by closing the pre-trial investigation on the grounds that “the lecture did admittedly feature statements that are highly degrading to Jews (among other things, they are consistently referred to as the brothers of apes and pigs)” but pointing out that such statements “should be judged differently – and therefore be regarded as permissible – because they were used by one side in an ongoing and far-reaching conflict where calls to arms and insults are part of the everyday climate in the rhetoric that surrounds this conflict.” In Sweden, an anti-Semitic crime is reported to the police once every three days. The Jewish congregations in major cities Stockholm, Göteborg and Malmö are forced to spend up to 25 percent of their membership fees on security and hired guards. And most of these hate crimes are perpetrated by Muslims. There are reports of Swedish Jews who have signed up for service in the Israeli Defence Forces to escape harassment and persecution in Sweden. Even some non-Jews from Sweden say they feel “liberated” when they go to Israel. In Israel, you know who the country’s enemies are, and you are prepared to fight for your country and for your convictions. It is hard to overstate the extent to which Sweden is a politically repressed nation, thanks to self-proclaimed guardians of the Multicultural Truth. Swedish historian of religion Matthias Gardell claims that Islamophobia is perhaps the greatest threat to democracy in the Western world today. Swedish writer and leftist intellectual Jan Guillou has stated that the rhetoric employed by the Nazis against Jews is now used to target Muslims.

In a Sociological survey entitled “Vi krigar mot svenskarna” (“We’re waging a war against the Swedes”), young immigrants in the troubled city of Malmö have been interviewed about why they are involved in crime. Malmö, Sweden’s third largest city, and set to become the first major Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority within a decade or two, has got nine times as many reported robberies per capita as Copenhagen, Denmark. The wave of robberies the city has witnessed is part of a “war against Swedes.” This is the explanation given by young robbers with immigrant background on why they are only robbing native Swedes, in interviews with Petra Åkesson. “I read a report about young robbers in Stockholm and Malmö and wanted to know why they are robbing other youths. It usually doesn’t involve a lot of money,” she says. She interviewed boys between 15 and 17 years old, both individually and in groups. Almost 90% of all robberies that are reported to the police were committed by gangs, not individuals. “When we are in the city and robbing, we are waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes.” This argument was repeated several times. “Power for me means that Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet.” The boys explain, laughingly, that “there is a thrilling sensation in your body when you’re robbing, you feel satisfied and happy, it feels as if you’ve succeeded, it simply feels good.” “It’s so easy to rob Swedes, so easy.” “We rob every single day, as much as we want to, whenever we want to.” The immigrant youth view Swedes as stupid and cowardly: “The Swedes don’t do anything, they just give us the stuff. They’re so wimpy.” The young robbers don’t plan their crimes: “No, we just see some Swedes that look rich or have nice mobile phones and then we rob them.”

A high school teacher in Malmö discovered that about a dozen Arab students were laughing and shouting “Allahu Akbar!” while watching a DVD of infidel hostages being beheaded in Iraq. The headmaster didn’t think the incident was such a big deal.

At least 139 schools in Sweden suffered arson attacks during 2002 alone. Björn Vinberg from the fire department in Kroksbäck in the Malmö area says it’s humiliating and degrading to put out fires again and again in the same immigrant areas, with school kids laughing at them and lighting a new one just afterwards. His colleagues have been to the same place no less than twenty times, all totally unnecessary. In the spring of 2006, a section of a school in Malmö was decided to be closed, due to “lack of security, vandalism and poor study results”. The school had been vandalised several times and in January part of it was damaged in an arson attack. “It’s the first time a school in Sweden has been closed because it is too rowdy,” said Jan Björklund, who saw the decision as giving in to discipline problems.

While this was going on, the number one priority for the political class in Sweden seemed to be demonizing neighboring Denmark for “xenophobia” and a “brutal” debate about Muslim immigration. During the Jihad riots in France in the fall of 2005, Sweden’s Social Democratic Prime Minister Göran Persson criticised the way the French government handled the unrest in the country. “It feels like a very hard and confrontational approach.” Persson also rejected the idea of more local police as a “first step” in Sweden. “I don’t believe that’s the way we would choose in Sweden. To start sending out signals about strengthening the police is to break with the political line we have chosen to follow,” he said. Meanwhile, as their authorities have largely abandoned their third largest city to creeping anarchy, there is open talk among the native Swedes still remaining in Malmö of forming vigilante groups, armed with baseball bats and concern for their children’s safety. At the same time, Muslim immigration to the country is not just continuing, but growing. Sweden’s population was growing faster in 2006 than at any time during the last twelve years. Statistics Sweden calculated that immigration increased by almost 85% compared with the first quarter the previous year. Most of these people came from Muslim countries such as Iraq, Somalia and Bosnia Herzegovinia.

What happened to the famous Swedish nanny state, you say? Don’t Swedes pay the highest tax rates in the world? Yes, they do. But tens of billions of kroner, some say several hundred billions, are being spent every year on propping up rapidly growing communities of Muslim immigrants. Sweden has become the entire world’s welfare office, because the political elites have decided that massive Muslim immigration is “good for the economy.” Pretty soon, Sweden could have an “army” of just 5000 men. That’s five thousand troops to defend a nation that is geographically more than three times the size of England. And it may take up to a year to assemble all of them, provided they are not on peacekeeping missions abroad. That Sweden could soon need a little peacekeeping at home seems to escape the establishment. In 2006, the celebrated Swedish welfare state has become the world’s largest pyramid scheme, an Enron with a national flag. Just as the country was in the midst of the worst crime wave in modern Scandinavian history, with a desperately underfunded police force, the Swedish Social Democrats announced that cheaper public dental care would be a major issue in the election campaigns. There could hardly be a better symbol of Europe’s love affair with the welfare state and “social security” in an age where physical security is rapidly disappearing through runaway Muslim immigration. “Eurabia: You may get your teeth kicked in, but at least you have cheap dental care” could become the slogan for the entire continent. The Swedish elites, especially the Socialists who are supposed to represent “the people,” seem to care little for the well-being of their own citizens, and much more for clinging on to power and polishing their image abroad. As Jonathan Friedman, professor of social anthropology at the University of Lund outside Malmö puts it: “In Sweden, it’s almost as if the state has sided with the immigrants against the Swedish working class.”

Yet despite of all of this, Alan Cowell writes in the New York Times that Sweden is full of “safety features, sort of like a Volvo.” Why didn’t he also ask some of the political dissidents about the state of the country, such as Ulf Nilson, challenging censorship through his essays at the Expressen newspaper, Jan Milld of the website Blågula frågor or Danish blogger Steen writing at Snaphanen, with great coverage of developments in Sweden? The reality is that the “Swedish model” in 2006 no longer refers to a stable and peaceful state with an advanced economy, but increasingly to a Eurabian horror story of utopian Multiculturalism, Socialist mismanagement and runaway immigration. The strains caused by immigration are now so large that unless something serious is done about this, pretty soon Sweden will face the same kind of riots we have recently seen in France, and will approach the point of permanent ethnic and religious strife.

Swedish politicians and media need to put the well-being of their sons and daughters above that of Political Correctness and their own Multicultural, ideological vanity, and it is shocking that they actually need to be reminded of this. It is an international embarrassment to Sweden as a nation that Swedes travel around the world to lecture about women’s rights, and at the same time their own young women are finding that their most basic rights, such as being able to go outside wearing normal clothes without being harassed, are slipping away. Unless Swedish authorities are able to provide basic security to a population that pays some of the highest tax rates in the world, the cabinet of Prime Minister Göran Persson should publicly admit its inadequacy and resign from office. At the very least, it should be honest enough to tell Swedish citizens that they must provide security for themselves, and stop making it difficult for people to do this.

The Swedish general elections are just a few months away, and this time, Muslim immigration needs to be raised to the very top of the public agenda. Failing to do so now could have potentially disastrous consequences later. Time is running out, both for Sweden and for much of Western Europe. ... de-of.html" onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 12:29 am
by manfred
The number of REPORTED rapes per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010, the ten highest figures for European nations are as follows:
  1. Sweden 63.5
  2. United Kingdom 28.8
  3. Belgium 27.9
  4. Norway 19.2
  5. Finland 15.2
  6. Ireland 10.7
  7. Austria 10.4
  8. Germany 9.4
  9. Netherlands 9.2
  10. Switzerland 7.1
France reported 16.2 in 2009, but did not publish the figures after that. Why not? Similarly, Italy reported 17.0 in 2009, but nothing since.

Greece only had 1.9 rapes per 100,000 inhabitants in 2010, so why is a woman 30 times more likely to get raped in Sweden than in Greece?
Why would the figure for Sweden be almost nine times higher than Switzerland?

Needless to say, in countries with Shariah law there are pretty much no reported rapes at all, and we all know the reason..." onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 8:50 am
by pr126
Towards a More Multicolored Sweden
Sweden’s minister of Finance, Anders Borg is visiting Africa. He is giving an interview with Expressen [Swedish tabloid newspaper] on the bus in Lagos. Borg looks out the window, sees all the colours and looks forward to the day when Sweden will become just as multicoloured.

It is one thing that he believes that Africa will become more influential in the global market, and that economic growth will occur on the African continent. It is something completely different to wish for Africa to come to Sweden. It is reminiscent of Mona Sahlin’s comments about ‘corny’ Sweden. Swedish culture was nothing compared to foreign cultures; hence one should simply be grateful for the enrichment. Borg’s comments have similar connotations.

“Look at all the beautiful colours the women here are wearing. Within ten years this is what it is going to look like all over Europe. Back home it’s so bleak and dreary the colours are devoid of life. When our children grow up there will be between 1.5 to 2 billion people in Africa and we will continue to be 500 million. That is going to have a huge impact on our trends.

“Europe will become a better place, a more multicultural place,” he continues.

“That Africa is becoming more influential can be observed in popular music among other areas. But I think it will really dawn on us when we start to see African fast food chains in Stockholm.”

Anders Borg has visited three African nations and met with politicians, CEO’s of the national banks and CEOs in the private sector.

But has Borg asked the Swedes whether they want Sweden to look like Africa?.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:04 pm
by Ariel
pr126 wrote:
But has Borg asked the Swedes whether they want Sweden to look like Africa?.
I am sure not.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Tue May 14, 2013 7:30 pm
by Ariel
“Look at all the beautiful colours the women here are wearing. Within ten years this is what it is going to look like all over Europe. Back home it’s so bleak and dreary the colours are devoid of life.

Let's travel to Sweden.....How bleak....


Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Thu May 16, 2013 5:41 pm
by ringmaster
StrongLove wrote:………………………….

We must always be careful that the outrage we all feel about islamic aggression not turn into hate…………..
Haven’t you noticed? It has turned into hate. The hate is coming from muslims because that is what the Koran teaches.

Verse 7:166

Ariel wrote:

Yes Jimi. Immigration is not a bad thing when you have immigrants who integrate, but most Muslims in Europe don't intergrate you know . ……………….
Nor will they ever integrate. If they were to integrate, they would contravene the supremacist teachings of their religion.

Verse 9-29.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:12 am
by Ariel
A Muslim on Trial for Assault in Malmo, Sweden

This is an excerpt from a letter to Ali Sina from Alan in Sweden, a victim of Muslim assault in Malmo.

In September last year (2012), Muslims demonstrated in Malmö against freedom of speech. I protested and was kicked and beaten by Muslims. And as I ran to police for safety, they arrested me, not my assailants. The assault on me as well as was my detention by police was filmed as can be seen here:
(For non-Swedish speakers, the officer says he does not want a riot on his hands, to which I respond that I am one person and that the riot is over there.)

What a happened on that day

It was a Sunday afternoon. As I was walking to the cinema to see a French film, a Muslim mob approached me, bearing the usual Muslim banners – “to hell with free speech” etc. – and screaming that those who defame the mighty prophet should be killed.

Apparently they dislike a film about the great man. It is not a Swedish film and none in Sweden had anything to do with it.

This is an attempt to frighten and intimidate ordinary Swedes.

I shouted to them that freedom of speech is guaranteed by the constitution and that their self-proclaimed prophet was a pedophile, rapist, mass-murderer and terrorist (see Ali Sina’s Challenge).

It was my freedom of speech right to point that out.

I was promptly set upon by several Muslim thugs who knocked me to the ground, punched me and kicked me.

I managed to get up and run to a police car with a howling gang of religionists behind me, clearly determined to kill me (see above).

The police promptly arrested… why me of course!

Passers-by protested that I had been assaulted, kicked and punched and that they had filmed everything. To no avail.

There was no attempt to apprehend my assailants.

I was thrown in the cells and am to be charged with disturbing the peace(!) and “hets mot folkgrupp” which could be translated as “inciting racial hatred”

The local newspaper, Sydsvenska Dagbladet, prides itself on being “independent liberal”.

There was a big article in the paper about freedom of speech being more important than religious feelings.

Does the paper mean what it says? Will it really stand up for liberal values? It did little to support Jyllands-Posten in Denmark, just a few kilometres away, when they published cartoons of the mighty prophet.

Personally, I think Pat Condell has got it right in his video, A Word to Rioting Muslims:
I went to the newspaper office and said I was not happy with the reporting and the description of myself as “screaming insults” at the demonstration.

Trial of my assailant at last

The man wearing the red armband and kicking me in the head in the assault video is Ali Abdul Karim Cheaib.

And eventually, he will be on trial for the assault in Malmö District Court tomorrow, Thursday 16 May, at 0900 (case B12079-12).

Hopefully, during the trial, I shall have the opportunity to say something about Islam and Muhammad.

The Religion of Peace is stalking the streets of Malmö.

Reminds me of the 1930’s and the rise of Nazism… ... weden.html" onclick=";return false;

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:54 am
by manfred
Hell will freeze over before you are allowed to even mention the words Islam or Muslim in a court like that... The court will have a peculiar disinterest in the motives for the assault, completely unlike other cases; an old lady shop caught shoplifting will have to undergo a social and probation report before the case is even heard. Here, relevant background information is avoided like a dog turd in the street, to the point that any good defence lawyer could appeal against any possible conviction on the grounds that mens rea has not been established.

A perceived "provocation" is no excuse. At least so the theory goes. Possibly that does not apply to Muslims and he may even go free. We don't quite have Shariah as the offical legal system yet, but we certainly do treat Muslims differently from other people.

We once had a similar demonstration here in London, near to where I live, and I wrote a letter of complaint to the mare and to my local councillor, who happens to be Jewish and appreciated very well what I was saying. I also enclosed a petition signed by some 500 people locally. It took two months before I received a very guarded reply from the mare, but most strangely, there have been no further such demonstrations locally. It seems they moved to different areas. I guess my threat that on the next occasion I would gather a similar size group to protest against them got them worried.

Similarly, after a lot of the adverse publicity about the "Muslim patrol" in Tower Hamlets and some decisive police action (they don't like any kind of vigilante at all), there have been no more incidents.

So the point is this: these people are stoppable. But they will only respect superior force. A single man making a point, however valid, will be answered with a kick and a punch. But they soon back down when they find that their actions will have negative consequences for them, or they are met by a show of strength.

Most Muslims are not interested in facts, or in truth; they are only interested in who is stronger.

Re: News from Sweden.

Posted: Sat May 18, 2013 12:50 pm
by Ariel
I guess we are too tolerant, and Europe still suffers the "never again"syndrome.